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Acrofales
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Acrofales
Spain17706 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:42 Keirathi wrote: You were drunk when you posted that? No wonder your reading comprehension skills were so bad  My managing to properly express my thoughts was a bit of a failure, but fairly certain I got the reading part spot on. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:42 Acrofales wrote: I see I kinda fubar'd it up too. My point was: the post is way too carefully phrased to be a townie who thinks he was framed or I were scum. Seeing that check as a townie, the first thing that would come to my mind is "Hopeless1der is scum". Lets yell that as loud as I can. What we CAN see from H1's post is that he does NOT consider 3p, therefore he *should* be yelling this at the top of his lungs. A simple: ok, TC, your check means Acro is scum or I was framed. The very lack of that is just extremely telling. Combine that with all the overly careful wording and we have a scum who cannot for the life of him imagine how a townie would react and posts this drivel instead. The way I read his post is "So, TC has a parity check on me and Acro. Either TC is lying about his check and is scum, or Acro is scum." That seems like a pretty reasonable attitude to me. There are tons of other things in Hopeless' filter that point to the possibility of him being scum, but I don't think that is it. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:45 Acrofales wrote: My managing to properly express my thoughts was a bit of a failure, but fairly certain I got the reading part spot on. My point is, a big part of your post calling his response out was how you seemed to think he said "One of us is scum" when it actuality he said "One of THEM is scum", meaning you or TC. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17706 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:46 Keirathi wrote: The way I read his post is "So, TC has a parity check on me and Acro. Either TC is lying about his check and is scum, or Acro is scum." That seems like a pretty reasonable attitude to me. There are tons of other things in Hopeless' filter that point to the possibility of him being scum, but I don't think that is it. You don't find the utter lack of conviction in that post at all suspicious? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17706 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:48 Keirathi wrote: My point is, a big part of your post calling his response out was how you seemed to think he said "One of us is scum" when it actuality he said "One of THEM is scum", meaning you or TC. Ahhhh. I may have been missing that because I had a very strong town read on TC from the Toad check. I g | ||
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Acrofales
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist: 1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out. 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... 3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar... 4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too. 5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party 6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later... 7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter. 8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...). 9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions. 10) Toad - Scum 11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read... | ||
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iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now... In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist: 1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out. 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... 3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar... 4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too. 5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party 6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later... 7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter. 8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...). 9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions. 10) Toad - Scum 11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read... ya don't listen to this at all shoot the scum | ||
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iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
My current conclusions: 1) Vigi shoot VE, Cave, and maybe Adam (in that order). 2) Kita probably is 3rd party... 3) Rolecheck Prox. if possible... 4) Toad = scum... And in case you were wondering, I would say that everyone not on that list is town at this point... | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:49 Acrofales wrote: Ahhhh. I may have been missing that because I had a very strong town read on TC from the Toad check. I guess that makes more sense now Yea, like I said, I think that's a perfectly normal townie reaction. To not just say "Yea, I'm town so Acro is scum guyz!!1!!!1!", but to be suspicious of both the cop who claimed the check and the person you were checked against. Again, there are definitely things in his filter that make me scratch my head, but that isn't one of them. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 28 2012 10:03 iamperfection wrote: And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time That might be the first productive thing you've done all game... | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
what do you think of the early stuff on hapa like, i'm aware it wasn't very well expressed, but do you think hapa was being suspiciously focused on distractions and things that weren't relevant to alignments, or do you think i'm suffering from confirmation bias | ||
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strongandbig
United States4858 Posts
On November 28 2012 10:03 iamperfection wrote: And i cant believe you said something like this im gonna have to go through your entire filter when i have time lol wow | ||
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iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
On November 28 2012 10:07 goodkarma wrote: That might be the first productive thing you've done all game... Care to explain in what universe that it would be good idea that you think its a good idea to shoot ve if you think he is more likely to be town. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
On November 28 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote: ya don't listen to this at all shoot the scum And which scum exactly would you propose we shoot then? All the people I proposed have a decent chance of flipping scum. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On November 28 2012 09:57 goodkarma wrote: My strongandbig read was in fact in large part due to activity, in addition to the incomplete cases / reads he was bringing up. I was unaware, however, of the severe lack of internet he was experiencing, and will back off of him for now... In its place I provide a mafia (the game) favorite, a scum suspect shortlist: 1) Iamp - I have a good "gut feel" about this guy I guess you could say. But he still has yet to contribute anything meaningful, which earns him a spot here. Would be willing to give him more time to see if his roleclaim checks out. 2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... 3) phagga - Need to reread his filter at some point (but not something I'm focusing on today). He has been pro-town in his contributions, but I can't help but feel he is also "playing it safe" and doing what he can to fly under the radar... 4) Adam - lurker who might need to be shot too. 5) Kita - I'm inclined to believe Marv's read of 3rd party 6) Cave - This guy won't be figured out without getting vigi killed. Shoot first, ask questions later... 7) Z-boson - From my experience with him, he likes to play pretty safe as scum, whereas as town he is rather reckless to the point of being pretty easy to mislynch. He definitely is making his own reads and contributing to thread, but all his reads I would call "safe" ones in that he is targeting almost exclusively lurkers... Null read atm, even after looking into filter. 8) Prox - Tbh I don't know what to do with him. Syllo's input is definitely appreciated, but I don't see him as a strong scum read (closer to null...). 9) Strong - I had a strong scum read based both off meta and on filter. However, with meta differences explained, I'm inclined to give him more of a chance to establish himself as town before coming to conclusions. 10) Toad - Scum 11) Hopeless (maybe) - clearly anti-town, but I'm still not convinced that he's scum. Would even go so far as to say slight town read... On November 28 2012 10:03 goodkarma wrote: I know people hate lists, but honestly establishing town is just as important, if not moreso, than finding scum this game. So I have less of a problem with lists. My current conclusions: 1) Vigi shoot VE, Cave, and maybe Adam (in that order). 2) Kita probably is 3rd party... 3) Rolecheck Prox. if possible... 4) Toad = scum... And in case you were wondering, I would say that everyone not on that list is town at this point... Aside from the obvious inconsistency of SnB not being on the second list, what I find the most off-putting about these posts is the fact that they come directly after I make my intention to be more active in the thread known, but at a time when I said I was busy and wouldn't be around in the thread (right now.) And I'm Vig Shot Numero Uno apparently. I'm definitely looking into GK next. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
2) VE - Shoot him dead. I actually think he might be more likely to be town than scum given his enthusiasm for playing scum. But if an elimination-based approach for finding scum is to work, he has to go. He has not posted enough to make a meaningful read... ^ That's pretty damn scummy right there. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9634 Posts
On November 28 2012 10:13 goodkarma wrote: And which scum exactly would you propose we shoot then? All the people I proposed have a decent chance of flipping scum. you literally said ve is likely to be town shoot him first. And your asking a stupid question. I have no idea what town kp we have. Those vigs should decide. If you can kill toad they should do it. Other than that they should just attack their scum reads. i would shoot toad and then cave and then you if you keep it up | ||
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