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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 27 2012 16:27 GMT
#4181
On November 28 2012 01:25 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies.

I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out.


Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective.

From what I understand:
Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me.
Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100.
Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage.

you are not listening.

say you took 20 dmg and i healed you.

You would get

you took 20 dmg
and you were healed

you took no damage cycle1
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 27 2012 16:29 GMT
#4182
^regarding my last post, from my view it seems to make sense with my play so far

Day 1, I wasn't particularly active as compared to my normal play as either allignment. This is consistent with me not getting shot or taking minimal damage.
Day 2, I was a tad more active and was one of the first votes on Toad. This is consistent with Toad wanting to eliminate me.
Day 3, I've been much more active, making cases on Hopeless and Promethelax. I could have been "rewarded" for this by getting targeted by mafia.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 16:30 GMT
#4183
On November 28 2012 01:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies.

I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out.


Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective.

From what I understand:
Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me.
Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100.
Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage.

you are not listening.

say you took 20 dmg and i healed you.

You would get

you took 20 dmg
and you were healed

you took no damage cycle1


That would mean someone prevented some amount of damage on me last night.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 27 2012 16:30 GMT
#4184
On November 28 2012 01:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote:
I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies.

I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out.


Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective.

From what I understand:
Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me.
Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100.
Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage.

you are not listening.

say you took 20 dmg and i healed you.

You would get

you took 20 dmg
and you were healed

you took no damage cycle1


Oh ok, so that narrows things down on D1, and I didn't take any damage.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18224 Posts
November 27 2012 16:31 GMT
#4185
Shit. You people, can't you keep your conclusions about survivors to yourselves?

Seeing as the cat's pretty much out of the bag, I confirm I'm 3rd party. My wincon is to survive and do some stuff that I am not telling anybody about. I promise that the extra stuff is in town's best interest. Not saying anything more, because I suspect there are other people out there who have to kill me. Otherwise Drazerk's solution to playing a survivor will always work: claim D1 and go AFK (or in this case, claim D1 and help town to figure out how to fulfill the other part of my wincon, THEN go AFK).

This is also immediately the reason I don't want to be on a party. I asked Greymist whether my influence counts with town or scum, or whether I could choose. He told me that I cannot choose and that he's not saying what my influence counts as. I have no way of knowing my hidden influence factor. So.. no. There is no contradiction between my not wanting to be on the party and being really surprised at Keirathi's claim.

Think about it, though: scum was probably not feeling too comfortable on D3. D1 went town's way, D2 went further town's way. Why would they NOT want to take any opportunity to get on the party? Claiming not wanting to be on the party would be a ridiculously stupid move, unless you think scum is so afraid of being caught out through the party mechanic that they are going to hide all game while town figures them out and kills them one by one on the few lynch days we get?

Oh, I can claim some other stuff: I have a load of one-shot abilities, but don't know what they do. Part of my suspicions of Drazerk are founded on this: he claims to be able to figure out what his abilities do before using them. I am unable and have to use them and pray. I can make an educated guess using common sense and some help from the chronopedia to figure out what is likely, but I cannot know for certain. Not giving ability names either, as they are 100% linked to my character name.

On D1 I used an ability that I thought would mason me with 3 other people. Instead it did 75 damage to each of them. I hit Sandroba, Dienosore and BioSC with it. I wanted to chat with Sandroba and BioSC to figure out if they were scum or not. I wanted to chat with Dienosore about setup-related stuff that largely got resolved in the thread.

I already said what I did D2.

D3 I cannot reveal, as it says too much about me. This is the only one I breadcrumbed, though, so if I ever feel safe in claiming my name in full, you will be able to check it.



@Hopeless1derp: I have called you an idiot too many times this game, already, but here goes again. On the offchance you are really town (which I really don't think): you're an idiot. OF COURSE you want Lavos to appear when scum is dead. Fairly certain killing Lavos with scum alive is going to be harder than killing him with scum dead. It doesn't look like there's much opportunity to kill scum, so wasting whatever abilities you have to kill scum on me is beyond ridiculous. I also have rather a lot of HP and things that I really really suspect are heals.

There is 0 point to killing me and I am helping town as best I can. I have done more scumhunting than pretty much anybody except Marv. I was wrong on Sandroba, so /shrug. However, I DID find Toad. If you prefer I shut up and go afk for the rest of the game, say so. I am happy to leave you derps derping it up. This time I don't give a shit if the endgame has Kushes Fubas and Proms in it: I just need to not get killed once I have completed my other condition, which I am fairly confident I can do without your help.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18224 Posts
November 27 2012 16:33 GMT
#4186
Also, stop shitting up the thread repeating yourselves over and over and OVER about who healed what damage when and having a clusterfuck of miscommunication.

What I am FAR more interested in is knowing why Iamperfection thought Hapa would need healing D1.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 27 2012 16:39 GMT
#4187
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18224 Posts
November 27 2012 16:40 GMT
#4188
Also, @Chronicler: please use your parity cop check sensibly next time. I liked your first check, but how about you keep the chain going instead of creating crazy speculation until someone flips. Check someone against someone who is either as close to confirmed town as we can get (Dienosore springs to mind) or confirmed scum (Toad). The latter is obviously more useful, because it actually finds scum, instead of 3P. Your check on Hopeless1derp is now completely useless, because it says nothing of whether he's scum or town.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 27 2012 16:41 GMT
#4189
If you are a third party and there is someone out to get you, I can assure you what you said is already sufficient. It's not like they have someone else to target, so these excuses about wanting to hide your identity seem a bit thin based on what you said.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 16:42 GMT
#4190
On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop.

If Toad flips Queen Zeal, I think he's telling the truth. His filter has slipped his being 3rd party before that post.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18224 Posts
November 27 2012 16:43 GMT
#4191
On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop.

I can't say what I need to do, because anybody with Chrono Trigger lore knowledge will probably be able to figure out who I am. As there's probably mechanisms to prevent that from being a good idea, you'll just have to trust me.

Have I given you any reason not to trust me?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 16:44 GMT
#4192
On November 28 2012 01:40 Acrofales wrote:
Also, @Chronicler: please use your parity cop check sensibly next time. I liked your first check, but how about you keep the chain going instead of creating crazy speculation until someone flips. Check someone against someone who is either as close to confirmed town as we can get (Dienosore springs to mind) or confirmed scum (Toad). The latter is obviously more useful, because it actually finds scum, instead of 3P. Your check on Hopeless1derp is now completely useless, because it says nothing of whether he's scum or town.

Stop that please. It's needlessly disrespectful.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 27 2012 16:46 GMT
#4193
On November 28 2012 01:43 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop.

I can't say what I need to do, because anybody with Chrono Trigger lore knowledge will probably be able to figure out who I am. As there's probably mechanisms to prevent that from being a good idea, you'll just have to trust me.

Have I given you any reason not to trust me?

Lets put it this way, If you were third party who's objective would hurt town. Would you claim that or something in the lines of what you just did?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 27 2012 16:46 GMT
#4194
On November 28 2012 01:33 Acrofales wrote:
Also, stop shitting up the thread repeating yourselves over and over and OVER about who healed what damage when and having a clusterfuck of miscommunication.

What I am FAR more interested in is knowing why Iamperfection thought Hapa would need healing D1.

I was drunk at the pats jets game on thanksgiving i monitored the thread from my phone saw some of hapas post decided fuck it looks town enough for me and did what i did.

I originally was going to heal sylo i switched it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Adam4167
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia1426 Posts
November 27 2012 16:46 GMT
#4195
I have no quarrel with third partys.

You're fine by me, Acro.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18224 Posts
November 27 2012 16:48 GMT
#4196
On November 28 2012 01:41 syllogism wrote:
If you are a third party and there is someone out to get you, I can assure you what you said is already sufficient. It's not like they have someone else to target, so these excuses about wanting to hide your identity seem a bit thin based on what you said.

We'll see, won't we. I see no reason to put myself at more risk than I have to. The 3P was already pretty obvious, so that increases no further risk to me. My identity, however, is something that could very well be used against me.

Anyway, my name is pointless. Greymist was happy to supply me with a fakeclaim, so it'll still be up to you to figure out whether I'm telling the truth. I decided not to use the fakeclaim and just tell the truth. But that doesn't mean I want to claim my real name.

So in short, to anybody saying I should claim: I'll be the judge of that and I say no. Go suck it.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18224 Posts
November 27 2012 16:50 GMT
#4197
On November 28 2012 01:46 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 01:43 Acrofales wrote:
On November 28 2012 01:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If you're third party and you're good for town why don't you want to say what you want to do, you're asking us to trust you leaving you alive is in towns best interest. What third party have 1-shot cop.

I can't say what I need to do, because anybody with Chrono Trigger lore knowledge will probably be able to figure out who I am. As there's probably mechanisms to prevent that from being a good idea, you'll just have to trust me.

Have I given you any reason not to trust me?

Lets put it this way, If you were third party who's objective would hurt town. Would you claim that or something in the lines of what you just did?

I would lie my ass off. However, I would probably not be leaking 3rd party on all sides. I am a better player than that and you should know it. I played the way I did precisely because I am helping town. If you have any specific accusations, go ahead and make them.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 27 2012 17:06 GMT
#4198
Hm I'm inclined to believe Acro here. He fits the profile of the classic "pro-town but slightly-off" profile of a 3rd party. Lotsa scumhunting, but some weird things in his filter that aren't necessarily mafia-motivated. Also, him going after Toad so hard (and being one of the first to do so) seems pretty unlikely if Toad flips red.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 27 2012 17:07 GMT
#4199
IF you take 150 damage and are healed for 100 damage in the same night, you will be told

You took 50 damage

You were healed.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 27 2012 17:08 GMT
#4200
On November 28 2012 02:06 Hapahauli wrote:
Hm I'm inclined to believe Acro here. He fits the profile of the classic "pro-town but slightly-off" profile of a 3rd party. Lotsa scumhunting, but some weird things in his filter that aren't necessarily mafia-motivated.


Also, him going after Toad so hard (and being one of the first to do so) seems pretty unlikely if Toad flips red.


Him being scum is unlikely, regarding that last line?
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