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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Toad is scum. Iamp and Clarity are both town with protective roles. TheChronicler is town and says his truth. Prom is town and says his truth. Acro is 3rd party and Hopeless is town/scum. If Hopeless is town then Z-Bo might be scum. Adam is more likely to be town than scum. I'm very uncomfortable with VE. There is some 3rd party or scum among kita and CJ ? Except the part concerning Prome, would anybody agree or disagree on some points ? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 27 2012 23:48 iamperfection wrote: then why didn't you report my heal? Because I didn't receive notification of a heal >> So either a) You didn't heal me (but I don't know why you'd lie about that) b) I took more than 100 damage | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 28 2012 00:26 Hapahauli wrote: Because I didn't receive notification of a heal >> So either a) You didn't heal me (but I don't know why you'd lie about that) b) I took more than 100 damage uh let me go check something. From my understanding you receive a notification as long as the heal does actual healing. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
So hapa, I healed you for 100. So you're saying you took 150 damage and I healed you for 100 so your PM said you took 50 damage? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 28 2012 00:28 iamperfection wrote: uh let me go check something. From my understanding you receive a notification as long as the heal does actual healing. Healing and damage prevention are different things imo. Do you know if a targeted players dies after or before damage prevention ? Do you see my point ? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 28 2012 00:35 Djodref wrote: Healing and damage prevention are different things imo. Do you know if a targeted players dies after or before damage prevention ? Do you see my point ? I already asked this, I got told that all healing/damage/damage prevention happens at the same time. So if someone at 50 hp is being damage for 50 and healed for 1 the person would live. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18425 Posts
Fuck it, lets try ##kill Golem Overlord Note, I do not have this ability in my role pm and have no clue whether it'll work or not, but it's the only thing related to a countdown I can find. It is pure speculation. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 28 2012 01:01 Acrofales wrote: Anybody need to kill the Golem Overlord? Chronopedia mentions he has a countdown. That is the only one I can find. Fuck it, lets try ##kill Golem Overlord Note, I do not have this ability in my role pm and have no clue whether it'll work or not, but it's the only thing related to a countdown I can find. It is pure speculation. i will give you so many e-sports dollars if that actually works | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18425 Posts
On November 28 2012 00:21 Djodref wrote: Ok, I'm going to follow marv last advice and use some KISS. Toad is scum. Iamp and Clarity are both town with protective roles. TheChronicler is town and says his truth. Prom is town and says his truth. Acro is 3rd party and Hopeless is town/scum. If Hopeless is town then Z-Bo might be scum. Adam is more likely to be town than scum. I'm very uncomfortable with VE. There is some 3rd party or scum among kita and CJ ? Except the part concerning Prome, would anybody agree or disagree on some points ? Is this your not-so-subtle way of asking me whether I'm third party? I think your Hopeless Zbo conditional is stretching the association a bit. Also Zbo might be scum regardless of Hopeless' flip. I don't see his case as particularly indicative of alignment: Zbo was catching some pressure and making a case is a good way of getting out from pressure. I, and probably many other people, were very suspicious of Hopeless. If Hopeless is scum, then this would be a pretty good opportunity to bus. I don't think anybody can disagree on how you feel about VE. They might feel differently, though. Personally, I agree and feel there's a good chance of him being scum. He keeps saying "sorry I'm not contributing" and jumping out of the thread for the next 24 hours again. Hard to tell, though, it's VE. I see no reason to heap Kita and CJ together. I fail to see a link between them. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On November 28 2012 00:21 Djodref wrote: Ok, I'm going to follow marv last advice and use some KISS. Toad is scum. Iamp and Clarity are both town with protective roles. TheChronicler is town and says his truth. Prom is town and says his truth. Acro is 3rd party and Hopeless is town If Hopeless is town then Z-Bo might be scum. Adam is more likely to be town than scum. I'm very uncomfortable with VE. There is some 3rd party or scum among kita and CJ ? Except the part concerning Prome, would anybody agree or disagree on some points ? I've made one change to this post. I'm not scum. Also, Z-Bo being scum isn't really tied to me the way you've phrased it, but sure. Everything else, I agree is the simplest explanation. What are the thoughts on killing off 3rd party in lieu of scum? Our job is to kill Lavos, and while hunting scum makes Lavos appear sooner, we don't know if that's a good thing. Either way, we don't win just by killing off scum. Basically I'm asking if I should be trying to get Acro killed or not. On November 28 2012 00:39 iamperfection wrote: hapa i don't see your dmg report after day 1 where was it? He didn't report day1 damage On November 27 2012 23:47 Hapahauli wrote: I assure you I was. If you don't believe me, I claimed 100 damage pretty early on in the cycle and Toad mentioned he shot me as a "+EV shot" or something (before he was confirmed scum to the thread). So where's the theory here? That Toad and I are scumbuddies? That he didn't just shoot me in self-preservation after I was one of the few to press for his lynch D2? This was cycle 2, not cycle 1. Aside from that, his total damage claimed checks out, but his "lie" about when the damage took place is sketchy. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
I took 0 damage D1, 100 damage D2 50 damage D3 Forgot D1 existed for some reason >> All I know is that I received a PM after Day 2 stating I took 100 damage Then I received a PM after D3 stating I took 50. I'm grateful that you guys healed me, but either I didn't receive the heal or I simply took a but-load of damage on those days. I'm thinking the latter. | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 28 2012 01:13 Hapahauli wrote: Oh 'doh sorry I keep mixing up my days. I took 0 damage D1, 100 damage D2 50 damage D3 Forgot D1 existed for some reason >> All I know is that I received a PM after Day 2 stating I took 100 damage Then I received a PM after D3 stating I took 50. I'm grateful that you guys healed me, but either I didn't receive the heal or I simply took a but-load of damage on those days. I'm thinking the latter. i healed you day 1 so it was wasted | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote: I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies. I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out. it was day 1 nobody was semi confirmed. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 28 2012 01:18 syllogism wrote: I don't see why mafia would shoot you for massive damage on those two days, when their main priority should be eliminating semi-confirmed townies. I can't believe you two were healing him anyway, but I perhaps he didn't believe it either. Hapa definitely shouldn't be on a team until this is sorted out. Well both of those guys (clarity and iamp) have town reads on me, so the heals make sense from that perspective. From what I understand: Post-D1: I took 0 damage. Either iamp's claimed heal was completely wasted OR it nullified any damage directed towards me. Post-D2: I took 100 damage. No one healed me (or no one has claimed so), and Toad claimed he shot me for 100. Post-D3: I took 50 damage, and nl_clarity healed me for an undisclosed amount, indicating that I took more than 50 damage. | ||
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