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kitaman27
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On November 25 2012 04:30 marvellosity wrote:
Interesting. I will have to cogitate because my first inclination is to believe this.
Where do you stand with Cave now. Do you still see him as null and someone who should be left alone?
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On November 25 2012 04:59 goodkarma wrote:
But hasn't sandra been just as worthless? I'll have to re-read your filter but it doesn't quite add up to me why toad would so much more definitely be scum than sandroba on that basis.
Sandro upped and left. He is not here (or faking not being here). Sure, that is damning, because it's sandroba, but on exactly the same basis we could be lynching SnB, hopeless1der, Promethelax, VE, Adam or iamperfection.
Yes, we hold Sandroba to a higher standard... and Syllo has a meta-based scumread on him. However, I am not comfortable sheeping Syllo. If he's wrong, we're screwed and have absolutely nothing useful.
Toad, on the other hand has been here. He has been posting, quite actively at times. Yet, he has DONE jack shit. That is far more damning than going afk imho.
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Day 2 Lynch Count!
Sandroba (11): Clarity_nl, Oatsmaster, Adam4167, goodkarma, risk.nuke, strongandbig, syllogism, TheChronicler, Hapahauli, Promethelax, Toadesstern, Viscera Eyes
BioSC (0): Djodref
CaveJohnson (1): Djodref, phagga
TheChronicler (1): Djodref, Acrofales, Hopeless1der
Promethelax (1): Hapahauli
kitaman27 (2): Djodref, marvellosity
goodkarma (1): Dienosore
Toadesstern (1): Acrofales
About 3 Hours until voting Closes
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On November 25 2012 04:30 Warri wrote:sup guys Toad here. My internetprovider is down, I'm at a friends house, won't be back till tomorrow... Not a joke sry.
About voting me: Don't lynch me, I need someone who votes me though or I take a lot of dmg. Stupid posting / acting restriction being an attention whore 
Nobody noticed this ?
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On November 25 2012 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:I'll read his filter a bit closer, one of his latest posts I like quite a bit, it's still not scumhunting though, I admit: + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2012 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:Okay done reading. Marv looks definitely better d2 so I'll ignore him for now. Sandroba looks the same way he did d2 so I still think he's the best way to go, not to mention that it's not that much time left. So much for the changes for d1 to d2. Drazerk looks like a madmen, like you guys said and well it's Drazerk.... Those people get shot and not lynched, it's as simple as that. A lynch on Drazerk is a (imo) random lynch as he could be doing that from both points of view and I don't have an idea what's going on in his head. Additionally I'd say that's probably not going to change that soon, which is why I'd say we let vigs deal with him, both to get rid of him and to make sure we don't have a Drazerk lynch that gives us 0 information while flipping like a dice role. The bad thing about lynching Drazerk is that anyone and their mom can hop on that lynch and say "herpa derp it's Drazerk, let's lynch him beacuse he's anti-town" and after the lynch we're in complete chaos because he either flipped red and everyone's pissed at those who thought he shouldn't be lynched because he's always like that or he's going to flip his chef / invoker thingie and people we don't get anything out of it because he was doing bullshit after all. TL; dr: Don't lynch that guy, shoot him. Completly ignore him in all other regards. Other than that I don't really like Chroniclers fashion of going after people. Can't help but feel that he thinks he needs to emphasize and point out very obvious things a lot. Could be me omgusing though, so I'd rather have some input from someone else about that. Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:31 Dienosore wrote:On November 24 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote:
screw that
##vote Sandro I mapped you voting for sandro a long time ago. Why do you feel the need to vote him again, and in such a lackadaisical manner? [...] I didn't. On the start of d2 I said I'd like to vote for Sandro, maybe marv, went to the trainstation and was basicly afk for 24 hours. Now I'm back and gave a heads up on my current thoughts. I usually don't feel the need to copy&paste what I said earlier if nothing changed but I can do that from now on if it you makes you feel better :p I actually haven't understood your map yet, like Marv said I've been mainly mentioning Sand and him d1&d2 so far, maybe Keir a little d1 but I think I made it very clear that that was on purpose to get something going and I don't see arrows between Marv and me. But than again who knows what arrow belongs to what person
Why do you like that? It's actually a terrible post. He says he's null on marv, troll on drazerk and gives some waffling account of that he wants other people to tell him what to think of chronicler. He calls Dienosore useless (or unintelligible at best).
Way to be COMPLETELY noncommittal.
What is there to like in that post? What I am still missing is an explanation for why he voted Sandro.
On November 24 2012 03:55 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 03:31 Acrofales wrote:On November 24 2012 03:16 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 24 2012 03:05 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I went through Sandro's filter, and other than his absence at some key moments I cannot find anything scummy. He seems to be playing pretty standard for him, calling people town with no reason given. However, I am looking forward to him waking up and starting to play again.
Another thing to keep in mind is that from a game-setup point of view it is very very risky to put people like Sandro+Syllo on opposite alignments. Not quite as bad as Coag+Jackal (and the only game I've played with both of them DrH stuck both of them on the scumteam), but not something you can do without making a very serious consideration, as they are well-known for having each other's number. I don't want to let this weigh too heavily, because meta-speculation about the host is really dodgy ground, but I felt it was worth mentioning.
Syllo+Sand: do you have a recent (last half a year or so) game where you were opposite alignments? 3rd party doesn't count. So I take it you are not so familiar with his meta? Because both Toad and Adam seemed to give him scum reads on meta. I'm also disturbed on how syllo is reluctant to give a read on him. I've asked him twice at this time, and he still doesn't take a solid position. There are two newbies using the logic "syllo won the event ergo sand is scum" and that's going unopposed. I don't get why he's not taking a position against sand. I second that a game in which syllo and sand played together as opposite alignments would be quite instructive. That way we can tell just how accurate these vet reads being made are and I'll be more comfortable regarding people's reads. For the record I'm opposed to a sand lynch at this time, until more people comment on the cases on him, at least. Right now there are much better lynches, more into that in a bit. Only remotely normal game I remember Sandroba being scum is Liar mafia. His meta was blatantly obvious there, because he just plain didn't care about the game. That is not the impression I am getting from him. I have played with town Sandroba a couple of times now, and am getting a similar feeling. The main difference is that he has gone awol for long stretches of time. I don't like that at all, but admit real world stuff does come up and interfere with playing sometimes. I am uncomfortable lynching Sandroba with the ONLY thing I can hold against him is that he was afk when it counted. Adam states Sandroba is playing like he "don't-give-a-shit", which I disagree with. @Adam: please explain yourself a bit better. What makes you have this read? Toad doesn't have a meta read on Sandro at all. He has a "Syllo is town, therefore Sandro must be scum" read based on the party leader elections, which is pants-on-head retarded. nope I had a meta read on Sandro up until yesterday. He was way to "friendly" when talking to syllo imo which again is a reason I liked syllos conversation with him. Town Sandro usually isn't open at all and tries to net people, by being sneaking and laying traps, so I didn't like what he was showing on d1. Problem about meta reads is you can't explain them because as someone else stated I don't think reading an old game is anything like playing it. You've got to be in the game yourself you're referring to imo. I'm saying "had" because what sandro said today, especially him being pissed makes me rethink things a bit... but I'd still say he's mafia considering that I'm not and syllo's probably not either. Yeah I'd say mafia had their eggs in the basked.
This, and the fact that he thinks there is a scum in Syllo+Sandro, are the only reasons he gives for wanting to lynch Sandro. If Sandro flips town, it is impossible to peg Toad to this lynch.
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On November 25 2012 05:16 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 04:30 Warri wrote:sup guys Toad here. My internetprovider is down, I'm at a friends house, won't be back till tomorrow... Not a joke sry.
About voting me: Don't lynch me, I need someone who votes me though or I take a lot of dmg. Stupid posting / acting restriction being an attention whore Nobody noticed this ?
I did. And I ignored it for being useless. As should you.
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Oh, looks like Sandro is cruising for a modkill too.
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Didn't Toad just say that he was playing like this on purpose ?
He needed someone to vote him. I think that's why he kept asking Acro for a vote.
Does it seem reasonable for anyone ? Why didn't he claim then ?
Toad is AWOL by the way...
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On November 25 2012 05:20 Acrofales wrote:
Oh, looks like Sandro is cruising for a modkill too.
Howso?
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On November 25 2012 05:17 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:I'll read his filter a bit closer, one of his latest posts I like quite a bit, it's still not scumhunting though, I admit: + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2012 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:Okay done reading. Marv looks definitely better d2 so I'll ignore him for now. Sandroba looks the same way he did d2 so I still think he's the best way to go, not to mention that it's not that much time left. So much for the changes for d1 to d2. Drazerk looks like a madmen, like you guys said and well it's Drazerk.... Those people get shot and not lynched, it's as simple as that. A lynch on Drazerk is a (imo) random lynch as he could be doing that from both points of view and I don't have an idea what's going on in his head. Additionally I'd say that's probably not going to change that soon, which is why I'd say we let vigs deal with him, both to get rid of him and to make sure we don't have a Drazerk lynch that gives us 0 information while flipping like a dice role. The bad thing about lynching Drazerk is that anyone and their mom can hop on that lynch and say "herpa derp it's Drazerk, let's lynch him beacuse he's anti-town" and after the lynch we're in complete chaos because he either flipped red and everyone's pissed at those who thought he shouldn't be lynched because he's always like that or he's going to flip his chef / invoker thingie and people we don't get anything out of it because he was doing bullshit after all. TL; dr: Don't lynch that guy, shoot him. Completly ignore him in all other regards. Other than that I don't really like Chroniclers fashion of going after people. Can't help but feel that he thinks he needs to emphasize and point out very obvious things a lot. Could be me omgusing though, so I'd rather have some input from someone else about that. Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:31 Dienosore wrote:On November 24 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote:
screw that
##vote Sandro I mapped you voting for sandro a long time ago. Why do you feel the need to vote him again, and in such a lackadaisical manner? [...] I didn't. On the start of d2 I said I'd like to vote for Sandro, maybe marv, went to the trainstation and was basicly afk for 24 hours. Now I'm back and gave a heads up on my current thoughts. I usually don't feel the need to copy&paste what I said earlier if nothing changed but I can do that from now on if it you makes you feel better :p I actually haven't understood your map yet, like Marv said I've been mainly mentioning Sand and him d1&d2 so far, maybe Keir a little d1 but I think I made it very clear that that was on purpose to get something going and I don't see arrows between Marv and me. But than again who knows what arrow belongs to what person Why do you like that? It's actually a terrible post. He says he's null on marv, troll on drazerk and gives some waffling account of that he wants other people to tell him what to think of chronicler. He calls Dienosore useless (or unintelligible at best). Way to be COMPLETELY noncommittal. What is there to like in that post? What I am still missing is an explanation for why he voted Sandro. Show nested quote +On November 24 2012 03:55 Toadesstern wrote:On November 24 2012 03:31 Acrofales wrote:On November 24 2012 03:16 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 24 2012 03:05 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I went through Sandro's filter, and other than his absence at some key moments I cannot find anything scummy. He seems to be playing pretty standard for him, calling people town with no reason given. However, I am looking forward to him waking up and starting to play again.
Another thing to keep in mind is that from a game-setup point of view it is very very risky to put people like Sandro+Syllo on opposite alignments. Not quite as bad as Coag+Jackal (and the only game I've played with both of them DrH stuck both of them on the scumteam), but not something you can do without making a very serious consideration, as they are well-known for having each other's number. I don't want to let this weigh too heavily, because meta-speculation about the host is really dodgy ground, but I felt it was worth mentioning.
Syllo+Sand: do you have a recent (last half a year or so) game where you were opposite alignments? 3rd party doesn't count. So I take it you are not so familiar with his meta? Because both Toad and Adam seemed to give him scum reads on meta. I'm also disturbed on how syllo is reluctant to give a read on him. I've asked him twice at this time, and he still doesn't take a solid position. There are two newbies using the logic "syllo won the event ergo sand is scum" and that's going unopposed. I don't get why he's not taking a position against sand. I second that a game in which syllo and sand played together as opposite alignments would be quite instructive. That way we can tell just how accurate these vet reads being made are and I'll be more comfortable regarding people's reads. For the record I'm opposed to a sand lynch at this time, until more people comment on the cases on him, at least. Right now there are much better lynches, more into that in a bit. Only remotely normal game I remember Sandroba being scum is Liar mafia. His meta was blatantly obvious there, because he just plain didn't care about the game. That is not the impression I am getting from him. I have played with town Sandroba a couple of times now, and am getting a similar feeling. The main difference is that he has gone awol for long stretches of time. I don't like that at all, but admit real world stuff does come up and interfere with playing sometimes. I am uncomfortable lynching Sandroba with the ONLY thing I can hold against him is that he was afk when it counted. Adam states Sandroba is playing like he "don't-give-a-shit", which I disagree with. @Adam: please explain yourself a bit better. What makes you have this read? Toad doesn't have a meta read on Sandro at all. He has a "Syllo is town, therefore Sandro must be scum" read based on the party leader elections, which is pants-on-head retarded. nope I had a meta read on Sandro up until yesterday. He was way to "friendly" when talking to syllo imo which again is a reason I liked syllos conversation with him. Town Sandro usually isn't open at all and tries to net people, by being sneaking and laying traps, so I didn't like what he was showing on d1. Problem about meta reads is you can't explain them because as someone else stated I don't think reading an old game is anything like playing it. You've got to be in the game yourself you're referring to imo. I'm saying "had" because what sandro said today, especially him being pissed makes me rethink things a bit... but I'd still say he's mafia considering that I'm not and syllo's probably not either. Yeah I'd say mafia had their eggs in the basked. This, and the fact that he thinks there is a scum in Syllo+Sandro, are the only reasons he gives for wanting to lynch Sandro. If Sandro flips town, it is impossible to peg Toad to this lynch.
So if we sheep you instead and vote for Toad, for reasons similar to why people are voting Sandro, how does that make us better off? If Toad flips town, isn't it the same kind of scenario?
Or is it that sandro seems to have massive support, and that it must be mafia-influenced?
With as little as Sandro has tried to establish himself as town this game, if he is scum I would fully expect his team would bus him, especially with Syllo on his lynch bandwagon.
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On November 25 2012 05:21 Djodref wrote:
Didn't Toad just say that he was playing like this on purpose ?
He needed someone to vote him. I think that's why he kept asking Acro for a vote.
Does it seem reasonable for anyone ? Why didn't he claim then ?
Toad is AWOL by the way...
Did you read my case? Do you agree? Disagree? Toad's vote for Kita without reasoning was on purpose (and that's what that exchange with Marv and me was about). For whatever strange reason. I guess that could be construed as an attempt at trapping someone, and thus as scumhunting, but I am unsure that was actually what he was trying to achieve. Maybe Marv got something else from that exchange.
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The wagon against sandro seems quite stupid to me.
I think we should better lynch CJ or some other lurker rather than sandroba. There are not so many things indicating clearly a mafia playee in sandroba filter.
I could lynch TheChronicler or CJ or Toad or risk.nuke.
Seriuously guys, sandroba has contributed in a more useful way than any of these guys...
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On November 25 2012 05:30 Djodref wrote:
1)The wagon against sandro seems quite stupid to me.
I think we should better lynch CJ or some other lurker rather than sandroba. There are not so many things indicating clearly a mafia playee in sandroba filter.
I could lynch TheChronicler or CJ or Toad or risk.nuke.
2)Seriuously guys, sandroba has contributed in a more useful way than any of these guys...
1) Yes you've said this, a lot.
2) No he hasn't.
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On November 25 2012 05:28 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 05:17 Acrofales wrote:On November 25 2012 05:02 Clarity_nl wrote:I'll read his filter a bit closer, one of his latest posts I like quite a bit, it's still not scumhunting though, I admit: + Show Spoiler +On November 25 2012 01:42 Toadesstern wrote:Okay done reading. Marv looks definitely better d2 so I'll ignore him for now. Sandroba looks the same way he did d2 so I still think he's the best way to go, not to mention that it's not that much time left. So much for the changes for d1 to d2. Drazerk looks like a madmen, like you guys said and well it's Drazerk.... Those people get shot and not lynched, it's as simple as that. A lynch on Drazerk is a (imo) random lynch as he could be doing that from both points of view and I don't have an idea what's going on in his head. Additionally I'd say that's probably not going to change that soon, which is why I'd say we let vigs deal with him, both to get rid of him and to make sure we don't have a Drazerk lynch that gives us 0 information while flipping like a dice role. The bad thing about lynching Drazerk is that anyone and their mom can hop on that lynch and say "herpa derp it's Drazerk, let's lynch him beacuse he's anti-town" and after the lynch we're in complete chaos because he either flipped red and everyone's pissed at those who thought he shouldn't be lynched because he's always like that or he's going to flip his chef / invoker thingie and people we don't get anything out of it because he was doing bullshit after all. TL; dr: Don't lynch that guy, shoot him. Completly ignore him in all other regards. Other than that I don't really like Chroniclers fashion of going after people. Can't help but feel that he thinks he needs to emphasize and point out very obvious things a lot. Could be me omgusing though, so I'd rather have some input from someone else about that. Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 01:31 Dienosore wrote:On November 24 2012 23:01 Toadesstern wrote:
screw that
##vote Sandro I mapped you voting for sandro a long time ago. Why do you feel the need to vote him again, and in such a lackadaisical manner? [...] I didn't. On the start of d2 I said I'd like to vote for Sandro, maybe marv, went to the trainstation and was basicly afk for 24 hours. Now I'm back and gave a heads up on my current thoughts. I usually don't feel the need to copy&paste what I said earlier if nothing changed but I can do that from now on if it you makes you feel better :p I actually haven't understood your map yet, like Marv said I've been mainly mentioning Sand and him d1&d2 so far, maybe Keir a little d1 but I think I made it very clear that that was on purpose to get something going and I don't see arrows between Marv and me. But than again who knows what arrow belongs to what person Why do you like that? It's actually a terrible post. He says he's null on marv, troll on drazerk and gives some waffling account of that he wants other people to tell him what to think of chronicler. He calls Dienosore useless (or unintelligible at best). Way to be COMPLETELY noncommittal. What is there to like in that post? What I am still missing is an explanation for why he voted Sandro. On November 24 2012 03:55 Toadesstern wrote:On November 24 2012 03:31 Acrofales wrote:On November 24 2012 03:16 Z-BosoN wrote:On November 24 2012 03:05 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I went through Sandro's filter, and other than his absence at some key moments I cannot find anything scummy. He seems to be playing pretty standard for him, calling people town with no reason given. However, I am looking forward to him waking up and starting to play again.
Another thing to keep in mind is that from a game-setup point of view it is very very risky to put people like Sandro+Syllo on opposite alignments. Not quite as bad as Coag+Jackal (and the only game I've played with both of them DrH stuck both of them on the scumteam), but not something you can do without making a very serious consideration, as they are well-known for having each other's number. I don't want to let this weigh too heavily, because meta-speculation about the host is really dodgy ground, but I felt it was worth mentioning.
Syllo+Sand: do you have a recent (last half a year or so) game where you were opposite alignments? 3rd party doesn't count. So I take it you are not so familiar with his meta? Because both Toad and Adam seemed to give him scum reads on meta. I'm also disturbed on how syllo is reluctant to give a read on him. I've asked him twice at this time, and he still doesn't take a solid position. There are two newbies using the logic "syllo won the event ergo sand is scum" and that's going unopposed. I don't get why he's not taking a position against sand. I second that a game in which syllo and sand played together as opposite alignments would be quite instructive. That way we can tell just how accurate these vet reads being made are and I'll be more comfortable regarding people's reads. For the record I'm opposed to a sand lynch at this time, until more people comment on the cases on him, at least. Right now there are much better lynches, more into that in a bit. Only remotely normal game I remember Sandroba being scum is Liar mafia. His meta was blatantly obvious there, because he just plain didn't care about the game. That is not the impression I am getting from him. I have played with town Sandroba a couple of times now, and am getting a similar feeling. The main difference is that he has gone awol for long stretches of time. I don't like that at all, but admit real world stuff does come up and interfere with playing sometimes. I am uncomfortable lynching Sandroba with the ONLY thing I can hold against him is that he was afk when it counted. Adam states Sandroba is playing like he "don't-give-a-shit", which I disagree with. @Adam: please explain yourself a bit better. What makes you have this read? Toad doesn't have a meta read on Sandro at all. He has a "Syllo is town, therefore Sandro must be scum" read based on the party leader elections, which is pants-on-head retarded. nope I had a meta read on Sandro up until yesterday. He was way to "friendly" when talking to syllo imo which again is a reason I liked syllos conversation with him. Town Sandro usually isn't open at all and tries to net people, by being sneaking and laying traps, so I didn't like what he was showing on d1. Problem about meta reads is you can't explain them because as someone else stated I don't think reading an old game is anything like playing it. You've got to be in the game yourself you're referring to imo. I'm saying "had" because what sandro said today, especially him being pissed makes me rethink things a bit... but I'd still say he's mafia considering that I'm not and syllo's probably not either. Yeah I'd say mafia had their eggs in the basked. This, and the fact that he thinks there is a scum in Syllo+Sandro, are the only reasons he gives for wanting to lynch Sandro. If Sandro flips town, it is impossible to peg Toad to this lynch. So if we sheep you instead and vote for Toad, for reasons similar to why people are voting Sandro, how does that make us better off? If Toad flips town, isn't it the same kind of scenario? Or is it that sandro seems to have massive support, and that it must be mafia-influenced? With as little as Sandro has tried to establish himself as town this game, if he is scum I would fully expect his team would bus him, especially with Syllo on his lynch bandwagon.
I'm not telling you to sheep me, although I guess I would be honored. I am asking you to read my case, read Toad's filter and make up your own mind. I have voiced my opinion. I will try to sway the general public with lots of armwaving and explaining why Toad is scum, but in the end it's YOU who has to make up your mind.
So. Why do YOU think Sandro is scum. Fairly certain you're one of those people who is sheeping Syllo for no apparent reason other than Syllo says, so it must be so.
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On November 25 2012 05:30 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 05:21 Djodref wrote:
Didn't Toad just say that he was playing like this on purpose ?
He needed someone to vote him. I think that's why he kept asking Acro for a vote.
Does it seem reasonable for anyone ? Why didn't he claim then ?
Toad is AWOL by the way... Did you read my case? Do you agree? Disagree? Toad's vote for Kita without reasoning was on purpose (and that's what that exchange with Marv and me was about). For whatever strange reason. I guess that could be construed as an attempt at trapping someone, and thus as scumhunting, but I am unsure that was actually what he was trying to achieve. Maybe Marv got something else from that exchange.
I'm on my phone and drunk. I could lynch Toad just for the fact that he didn't say that he needed one vote against him to avoid damage. That's bs. Why shouldn't you claim smthing like taht.
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##Vote Toadsstern
I think Acro nailed it.
On November 25 2012 05:08 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 04:59 goodkarma wrote:
But hasn't sandra been just as worthless? I'll have to re-read your filter but it doesn't quite add up to me why toad would so much more definitely be scum than sandroba on that basis. Sandro upped and left. He is not here (or faking not being here). Sure, that is damning, because it's sandroba, but on exactly the same basis we could be lynching SnB, hopeless1der, Promethelax, VE, Adam or iamperfection. Yes, we hold Sandroba to a higher standard... and Syllo has a meta-based scumread on him. However, I am not comfortable sheeping Syllo. If he's wrong, we're screwed and have absolutely nothing useful. Toad, on the other hand has been here. He has been posting, quite actively at times. Yet, he has DONE jack shit. That is far more damning than going afk imho.
There's just nothing in Toad's filter that looks like scum-hunting. He never commits to a read, never builds a case, and just passively comments on a bunch of other people. I find it hard to believe that he's so scared of taking some HP damage to completely ignore town objectives (scumhunting) for 3-4 days.
As for the other candidates, I still wouldn't mind a Sandro or Prom lynch. However I think Toad has the highest chance of flipping here - as Acro said, he's been active and present, yet hasn't done anything.
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Dredged it up. Turns out I was 100% right. Beeeehhhhhh
On November 23 2012 18:47 goodkarma wrote:
I am entirely opposed to troll(CaveJohnson) hunting at present. I am not as confident as some seem to be that, based off his current anti-town dialogue, he has demonstrated he in fact is mafia.
On the other hand, if Sandroba's meta (as stated by others here) is to be believed, he is a clear choice as a lynching candidate for today. He has gone into hardcore lurker mode, which normally is something I wouldn't consider a tell. However, as a player of his reputation that plays so well as town to disappear as he has, I deem voting to lynch him appropriate. I would like to hear what he has to say to explain his current complete lack of caring since very early this game. And until he does:
##Vote: Sandroba
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On November 25 2012 05:32 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2012 05:30 Djodref wrote:
1)The wagon against sandro seems quite stupid to me.
I think we should better lynch CJ or some other lurker rather than sandroba. There are not so many things indicating clearly a mafia playee in sandroba filter.
I could lynch TheChronicler or CJ or Toad or risk.nuke.
2)Seriuously guys, sandroba has contributed in a more useful way than any of these guys... 1) Yes you've said this, a lot. 2) No he hasn't.
1) I know, but you should be able to see that everybody is sheeping and lurking and that we are basically wasting this day.
2) Sandro entered the thread and immediately proposed a good plan to constitue a party when everybody was off tracks. That's something...
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Ehh.... okay. After going through his filter more thoroughly I can definitely see what you're saying, Acro.
I ask any town night actions to shoot Sandro.
##Vote Toadesstern
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
Voting sandroba for now. 24 hours of inactivity is reasonable. 72 hours isn't.
I suggest a full role claim from him upon his return.
Still quite annoyed that prom hasn't showed up.
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