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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:32 GMT
#921
Yeah, and we'll have no idea if either (or both) of the claims are true.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#922
On November 30 2012 01:30 HeloKnight wrote:
Actually, the real question is should a JK claim? Doctor should claim 100%.


Yeah this is true.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:36 GMT
#923
Why should doctor claim 100%? If you like a 1 for 1 trade I guess but I think losing our doc is pretty bad just for one scum who ALREADY looks scummy.

Again, I'm not sold on doc claiming at this point. I think we can definitely do other things than just speculate about this for 11 hours.
Writer@WriterYamato
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 16:38 GMT
#924
On November 30 2012 01:36 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 01:30 HeloKnight wrote:
Actually, the real question is should a JK claim? Doctor should claim 100%.


Yeah this is true.


No actually I think it's wrong, because we'll end up lynching oats either way. And if the true doc counterclaims we lose our doc.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:39 GMT
#925
Because if we have a doc claim, we lynch one scum for sure in the next two days.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:41 GMT
#926
But if we don't ask for a claim, we have to treat Oats as confirmed town without knowing if he is. If we do ask and get none, Oats is confirmed town.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:41 GMT
#927
First post @yamato, second post @SDM.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 16:41 GMT
#928
On November 30 2012 01:41 HeloKnight wrote:
But if we don't ask for a claim, we have to treat Oats as confirmed town without knowing if he is. If we do ask and get none, Oats is confirmed town.


My alternative would be to lynch Oats anyway, not to confirm him town.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 29 2012 16:42 GMT
#929
Well, if we were to lynch oats anyway what would we get out of it information wise? If we don't and miss we are in terrible state and if we do and hit we are if good state. I think it is almost 50/50 either way now but what is more useful.

For example if oats flips doc we lose sdm in the night. That is two possibly confirmed town. If doc was to claim we would lose doc without losing sdm. If oats is scum we lose nothing (apart from a lesser town if scum takes that path)
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:44 GMT
#930
And as I've pointed out three times now, no claim does not mean Oats is town. Either way we are in the same position. I don't see how it has taken 4 pages for you guys to see it my way.
Writer@WriterYamato
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:44 GMT
#931
Hm. He's either scum or doc and we would just be blind lynching.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 29 2012 16:45 GMT
#932
Oh and for the record yamato I did look over cc again and didn't find much inherently scummy.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 16:47 GMT
#933
On November 30 2012 01:44 HeloKnight wrote:
Hm. He's either scum or doc and we would just be blind lynching.

If you think he is scum without the claim, that is how you should act.
Writer@WriterYamato
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
November 29 2012 16:49 GMT
#934
On November 30 2012 01:47 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 01:44 HeloKnight wrote:
Hm. He's either scum or doc and we would just be blind lynching.

If you think he is scum without the claim, that is how you should act.


True but I think the fact he gave us all the time in the world to decide is positive.

It's 3 am ipl starts in like an hour and I doubt I can last till 1pm if I don't sleep. I could get 7 hours sleep and then 3 hours to work though everything but I don't know.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:50 GMT
#935
On November 30 2012 01:47 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 01:44 HeloKnight wrote:
Hm. He's either scum or doc and we would just be blind lynching.

If you think he is scum without the claim, that is how you should act.

That's true, but I'm uncomfortable lynching a claimed blue. Could we determine anything from night actions? See if he dies tonight and lynch him if he doesn't?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 16:52 GMT
#936
Never mind, scum just won't kill him if we agree on that.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9646 Posts
November 29 2012 16:54 GMT
#937
Votecount:

Oatsmaster (3): Jacob Strangelove,Sonic Death Monkey,Kickstart,Aquanim,Yamato77
Jacob Strangelove (1) HeloKnight,Oatsmaster
Yamato77(1):Oatsmaster
Not voting (3):Mr. Cheesecake,Sonic Death Monkey,Kickstart


If you see your (or another's ) vote to be wrong, it would be kind to notify us.
Currently Oatsmaster is set to be lynched

10 hours remain

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 16:54 GMT
#938
We could do like this:

1. Doc, please counterclaim!
a) Counterclaim happens: we lynch scum Oats and lose our doc.
b) If counterclaim doesn't happen, proceed to 2.

2. JK, please counterclaim!
a) Counterclaim happens: we lynch Oats (who might still be doc)
b) Counterclaim doesn't happen: we have confirmed Oats

Scenario 1: Oats is doc
a) We have a JK: we've outed our JK and we've mislynched our doc (lol)
b) We don't have a JK: we have confirmed Oats

Scenario 2: Oats is scum
c) We have doc: we've outed our doc and lynched scum Oats
d) We have a JK: we've outed our JK and lynched scum Oats

a) is stricly dominated by just lynching Oats
b) is good
c) is stricly dominated by just lynching Oats
d) is stricly dominated by just lynching Oats

Conclusion: JK claiming seems bad
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 17:01 GMT
#939
We can't fucking get away from lynching Oats.

Please speak to me!
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 29 2012 17:02 GMT
#940
On November 30 2012 01:54 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:
We could do like this:

1. Doc, please counterclaim!
a) Counterclaim happens: we lynch scum Oats and lose our doc.
b) If counterclaim doesn't happen, proceed to 2.

2. JK, please counterclaim!
a) Counterclaim happens: we lynch Oats (who might still be doc)
b) Counterclaim doesn't happen: we have confirmed Oats

Scenario 1: Oats is doc
a) We have a JK: we've outed our JK and we've mislynched our doc (lol)
b) We don't have a JK: we have confirmed Oats

Scenario 2: Oats is scum
c) We have doc: we've outed our doc and lynched scum Oats
d) We have a JK: we've outed our JK and lynched scum Oats

a) is stricly dominated by just lynching Oats
b) is good
c) is stricly dominated by just lynching Oats
d) is stricly dominated by just lynching Oats

Conclusion: JK claiming seems bad

What do you mean by "strictly dominated just by lynching Oats"? Are you saying that this plan is good, or that JK claiming is bad?
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