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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 29 2012 13:17 GMT
#801
CC is a scum lean. Oats is a scum lean. Oats has the better chance of being lynched and his best effort at scum hunting thus far is really bad. At least CC made points I agree with about Oats. Oats just lied outright about my play.
Writer@WriterYamato
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 13:25 GMT
#802
Yamato, can you explain where I lied about you?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 13:26 GMT
#803
Also, I dont even see your efforts at scum hunting other than a post on CC that concluded nothing.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 14:08 GMT
#804
Also
##Unvote
Vote: Yamato
No gg, No skill.
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 14:15 GMT
#805
On November 29 2012 22:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kickstart what the hell is your problem?
Can you address the case on yamato?


Well, I'll chime in.

On November 29 2012 21:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
Drawing attention to yamato again.

Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 06:22 yamato77 wrote:
I keep trying to make sure I don't look scummy because apparently I do. And if you guys mislynch me day 1, it sets town WAY behind. Maybe I shouldn't care, but it also apparently hurts any chances of anyone else believing me, too, if they all think I'm scum. Perception matters for the town player.


What? why would town yamato post an emphasis on not being scummy as opposed to being town? Then he guilt trips us, I really feel that town yamato would make more of an effort to defend himself other than 'Dont lynch me or else town is far behind..'

It's called establishing you townieness and should be a concern of townies (as well as scum ldo).

Show nested quote +
As he said earlier, apparently only scum cares about looking scum.

He contradicts himself in order to throw suspicion on CC.

Can you expand on this?

Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 13:00 yamato77 wrote:
Can mafia KP be roleblocked?

What is the town motivation for asking this question? So he can get his lesser known partner to do the night kill?

Already been explained. If he was scum he could ask this in Scum QT or PM a host. Maybe he already has and asked the question to look townie? It's quite null though. Personally I like to PM most questions whether town or scum (at least ones that might help the opposite alignment, like my earlier question about the framer role).

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 16:31 yamato77 wrote:
On November 29 2012 16:21 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On November 29 2012 15:48 Sonic Death Monkey wrote:

I haven't read jacob's response to the case btw.


You haven't read my response? Lol don't bother just read yours again

Comments to yamato is there any posts you have made where you mentioned being suspicious of me (I forgot) Or did you just decide to start being suspicious now that two other people are?

Look at my filter. I have expressed my dislike for your play since D1. I also questioned you during our exchange over kick's read on me.

This also isn't the first time I've had to direct you to posts I've made. Do you even read my filter? Jesus.


Yamato's play is similar to Jacob's on day 1 but he condemns him for that.. Rose tinted glasses? or an excuse that doesnt apply to him but can be applied to Jacob.

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On November 29 2012 15:51 yamato77 wrote:
I feel no more confident in lynching anyone right now than I did day 1.

I'm not 100% confident on CC being scum. I posted the case more to point out that his actions were suspicious and needed reading into, which people have said they would do. I suppose on that front I have been successful so far Day 2.

I also have been highly suspicious of Jacob for a while because of how little he has contributed and how much fluff his filter contains, but I don't like voting to lynch him because he hasn't exactly been causing problems for town, either.

Oats, though, was a huge hindrance to town day 1. His posting was so chaotic that it was almost certainly designed to cause all sorts of discussion, for better or worse, but in no way could that discussion have been useful to town because nothing he said made any sense or was ever backed up with any solid reasoning. CC's case against him says as much, but as I said before he posted that, I don't think erratic play necessarily indicates scum. He could just be playing a really bad town game. I don't want to lynch people for being bad town.

In reference to Munk's case (can't call it kick's because all he did was repost it basically), I think it's easy enough to explain. Of course I have been defending myself because tons of people have read me as scum this game and attacked me for it. You said yourself that this partly explains why I haven't been hunting scum as much, because I have been under attack almost every time I post. So from now on, I guess the best play for me to make is to IGNORE these cases on me based on my low level of contribution because to defend against them is counterproductive to the real goal of the game; hunting and lynching scum. I'll let you guys decide for yourselves if I am scum or not. No more input from me about my actions.


His motivation in choosing who to lynch is how much trouble they cause to himself... Any townie would want to lynch scum even if they have been not shitting up the thread. Extremely bad reasoning for not voting Jacob and he didnt actually vote for me.

I feel like this is a fair point. If he's "highly suspicious" of Jacob, who seems to be one of the lynch candidates, he should look into that.

Conclusion:
He has not done ANY scumhunting the whole game, just acted hurt that he might be mislynched and defended himself ALL THE TIME. He promised a CC case but he didnt deliver..

iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 14:32:27
November 29 2012 14:23 GMT
#806
Votecount:

Oatsmaster (5): Jacob Strangelove,Sonic Death Monkey,Kickstart,Aquanim,Yamato77
Jacob Strangelove (1) HeloKnight,Oatsmaster
Yamato77(1):Oatsmaster
Not voting (1):Mr. Cheesecake,


If you see your (or another's ) vote to be wrong, it would be kind to notify us.
Currently Oatsmaster is set to be lynched

over 12 hours remain
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 14:28 GMT
#807
Hey imperfection, Oats isn't voting on himself.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 14:29 GMT
#808
he didnt do ##vote
Sonic Death Monkey
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden991 Posts
November 29 2012 14:31 GMT
#809
On November 29 2012 23:29 Kickstart wrote:
he didnt do ##vote


And putting his vote on himself is his punishment? :p
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 29 2012 14:31 GMT
#810
god damn it
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 14:32 GMT
#811
I see no problem with that being his punishment ^^
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 14:33 GMT
#812
My second point about scum not wanting to look like scum.
First quote was 'I keep trying to make sure I dont look scummy'. Then when he attacks CC, he says 'Only scum care about looking like scum.'
Also Iamp, get your head in the game!!
No gg, No skill.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 29 2012 14:34 GMT
#813
On November 29 2012 18:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually, aqua if you have the time, I am currently playing in Chrono Trigger, so you can use that as a kinda meta read.
I feel like im playing totally different in this game though :/
I would like you to clarify what you meant by the hammer thing and my grammer?

Don't talk about ongoing games. This goes for everyone. Including the jokers in the obs
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 14:34 GMT
#814
Since you are here kickstart, look at the yamato case I made.
No gg, No skill.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 14:37 GMT
#815
It is ok, I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions you come to. For example him asking the mods that question does not make him scum, it could make him a blue. I still think he is scummy but my case is better (im my own biased opinion )
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#816
Can everybody think about why they voted for me,
Is it because I am your top scum read? Or because you dont know who else to vote for and I am suspicious enough.
Town is getting to be lazy because the votes are stagnated on me so you guys have stopped scumhunting. Scum is very comfortable in the thread now because nothing is happening other than your votes on me.
No gg, No skill.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 14:39 GMT
#817
Then do something to change that. I have made a case on Yamato as well as you but people seem to think you are scummier, it is up to you to change their perception of you, not up to us to change how we view you just because you ask us to - you have to do something that warrants us changing our minds.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 14:42 GMT
#818
Since the votes dont look like moving,
Ima gonna claim.
I am a Doctor
I healed SDM n1 because he was my best townread.
I didnt breadcrumb because I couldnt really make it subtle.
No gg, No skill.
Kickstart
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1941 Posts
November 29 2012 14:46 GMT
#819
##unvote
I really hate you right now. This doesn't mean you are off the hook but now I have to reevaluate because lynching claimed blues is fucking stupid at this point - almost as dumb as claiming blue without trying to argue your way out of it with 12+ hours to go.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 29 2012 14:47 GMT
#820
Timezones kickstart, I am sleeping in about an hour and only getting on 2 hours before lynch.
Also this gives town more time to scumhunt.
Its not as bad as the BH claim IMO
No gg, No skill.
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