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Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 01:54 GMT
#141
On November 03 2012 10:43 Djodref wrote:
For everyone, here is the compilation of the games I've played so far with the corresponding filters. It's very good that we know each others but I guess that you didn't really research my meta last game. So here you go !

-Newbie Mini Mafia XXVIII as Cop
-Looney Lynching Mini Mafia as mafia pardoner
-Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX as VT

@ Rad

The only potential lurkers that we have in this game are daoud and maybe Obzy (but it doesn't look like it). My problem with your policy is that it is directed towards these players in this game. What we have to be wary of is active lurking (refer to the mafiaQT in the previous game) and people blending in.
Do you see anyone else possibly lurking ?


Most people in this game already agreed about the lurker policy at the end of last game. So yeah, my statements were more directed towards obzy. He responded to them and we discussed, so I feel that was a fine move on my end. Hopefully da0ud doesn't have some crazy RL activity this time and he'll be able to be less of an active lurker this game.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:55 GMT
#142
On October 31 2012 10:12 Alsn wrote:
Anyway, I really need to sleep. I promise that I will read and consider everything. It's just that if rolling the dice is the only option left, I'd rather it be a roll that I consider at least somewhat likely to have a good result.



I rescind my argument on the bed thing. Consistent with last game.

Btw my town meta is far from established. This is only my second game as town. And also my town meta was very different from my play last game, if you bothered to read the obs qt.

I never said unconditionally forgive. It was a heads up. You're twistingmy words
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:58 GMT
#143
I used the word basically in conjunction with unconditionally, considering you used 99%, I find that pretty accurate. You may not have meant it as such, but that's nevertheless an accurate description of what you said.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 02:01 GMT
#144
Anyway, I find this argument to be mostly about semantics, but given the nature of this game I wouldn't say that's entirely useless. That being said, this is going nowhere. I think your FOS was way way an overreaction, but I'll leave it at that because I'm really tired.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:03 GMT
#145
Yeah. Rereading what you said alsn it wasnt the greatest fos

Whyd you put lie in red text :/

The statement itself was weak "basically a lie" yet the red text in lie made it appear much more emphatic
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 02:04 GMT
#146
@ Rad

That's my problem with a lurker policy this game, I think that it can be used only against daoud or Obzy (maybe sylverfire).
I think it would be much better to call directly these players for lurking rather agreeing on a policy which could be a perfect excuse for the mafia to push a mislynch on them, assuming that they are town.
It's a small game and if you have a problem with the activity level of anyone, you can call them on it, no need for a policy.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 02:04 GMT
#147
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:07 GMT
#148
@djo

Why are you addressing lurker policy still while me and alsn are arguing?

Afraid to jump in and actually talk about something that doesnt make you commit?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:09 GMT
#149
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat
2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 02:10 GMT
#150
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 02:11 GMT
#151
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 02:12 GMT
#152
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 02:12 GMT
#153
On November 03 2012 11:04 Djodref wrote:
@ Rad

That's my problem with a lurker policy this game, I think that it can be used only against daoud or Obzy (maybe sylverfire).
I think it would be much better to call directly these players for lurking rather agreeing on a policy which could be a perfect excuse for the mafia to push a mislynch on them, assuming that they are town.
It's a small game and if you have a problem with the activity level of anyone, you can call them on it, no need for a policy.


@Djo

If no one lurks, the lurker policy has done its job. That's all it's there to do, stop people from lurking. Nothing more, nothing less. Let's move on shall we?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 02:13 GMT
#154
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


I thought you were gonna come out with some kind of awesome flavor theory. Dissapointed.
On others I'd point your joking attitude out as scum but I mean, you're Mr Cheesecake.
Anyone stand out to you so far?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 02:16 GMT
#155
On November 03 2012 11:07 debears wrote:
@djo

Why are you addressing lurker policy still while me and alsn are arguing?

Afraid to jump in and actually talk about something that doesnt make you commit?


@ debears

Your statement was incorrect, Alsn called you for it. Your FoS was a bit overreacting in my opinion.
I didn't like him using the red font neither but he has his reasons for it. Last game was horrible for us.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 03 2012 02:17 GMT
#156
@debears - Your reaction really does seem out of place, when I'm rereading. I've been refreshing constantly, trying to read everything and make a useful post, but nothing really seemed like it would contribute to a discussion, and I don't want to have pointless posts for the sake of "being active". Contributing, not spamming.

Upon looking at it that way, your posts and being interested in Alsn's word choice is surprisingly defensive. Given that there wasn't really any way for other players to pop their heads in and comment without semi-defusing the situation saying "it wasn't that big of a deal", why hold onto it? Quite specifically,
On November 03 2012 10:35 debears wrote:
Anyways what's your guys thoughts on alsns post?
- why ask something like that? I didn't really think it worth paying any mind to, but you kept going on it.

(And now, just above, you're asking djo why he didn't get involved in your argument - I didn't want to get involved either, it seemed largely purposeless.)

jesus i type this post, read for spelling mistakes, reopen a new browser to make sure i'm not missing some sort of new information and fucking blammo like 5 posts
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 02:18 GMT
#157
On November 03 2012 11:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


I thought you were gonna come out with some kind of awesome flavor theory. Dissapointed.
On others I'd point your joking attitude out as scum but I mean, you're Mr Cheesecake.
Anyone stand out to you so far?


I didn't joke at all last game, apart from a few trollish posts at the end hehe. I just think Debears is playing his scumgame from the last game right to the T. Aggressive opener, meaningless FoS. He also explicitly mentions that he's town and is being called a liar (someone saying you lied =/= being a liar).
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#158
On November 03 2012 11:16 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:07 debears wrote:
@djo

Why are you addressing lurker policy still while me and alsn are arguing?

Afraid to jump in and actually talk about something that doesnt make you commit?


@ debears

Your statement was incorrect, Alsn called you for it. Your FoS was a bit overreacting in my opinion.
I didn't like him using the red font neither but he has his reasons for it. Last game was horrible for us.


What does last game have to do with the argument between me and Alsn?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 02:20 GMT
#159
On November 03 2012 11:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


I thought you were gonna come out with some kind of awesome flavor theory. Dissapointed.
On others I'd point your joking attitude out as scum but I mean, you're Mr Cheesecake.
Anyone stand out to you so far?


I didn't joke at all last game, apart from a few trollish posts at the end hehe. I just think Debears is playing his scumgame from the last game right to the T. Aggressive opener, meaningless FoS. He also explicitly mentions that he's town and is being called a liar (someone saying you lied =/= being a liar).


No. That's wrong. Saying you lied means you are lying. If you are lying, you are a liar. Odd that you are saying that
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 02:21 GMT
#160
On November 03 2012 11:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 11:13 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:12 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:11 Clarity_nl wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:10 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:09 debears wrote:
On November 03 2012 11:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Debears you seem really paranoid.

On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liarin red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


He didn't call you, Debears the person, a liar. You're taking Alsn's nit-pick of a post awfully personally.

The quick, useless FoS is also the same exact tactic you used last game. Old hat, Debears, old hat.


1) i don't wear a hat

2) i rescind my argument. The red text threw me off


Scumtell.


Howso?


Mafia usually wear hats. He's so adamant that he most certainly does NOT wear a hat. Therefore, scumtell.


I thought you were gonna come out with some kind of awesome flavor theory. Dissapointed.
On others I'd point your joking attitude out as scum but I mean, you're Mr Cheesecake.
Anyone stand out to you so far?


I didn't joke at all last game, apart from a few trollish posts at the end hehe. I just think Debears is playing his scumgame from the last game right to the T. Aggressive opener, meaningless FoS. He also explicitly mentions that he's town and is being called a liar (someone saying you lied =/= being a liar).


It's cause I read your Mafia QT I guess, you're right, in the thread itself you were super serious. So why the change of tone?
XXIX is my first mafia game on TL, so it's my first encounter with debears. Maybe debears opens like this in every mafia game regardless? I'll go dig around. Feel free to comment debears.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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