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Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#121
Wouldn't making a lurker-lynch policy be somewhat counterproductive? Like - lynching lurkers, that sounds smart. But if it's "policy", then everyone knows not to lurk - so there wouldn't be a lynch on lurkers - and if there was, why the heck would mafia be lurking? It's more like lynching the people with the least time, as long as everybody is at least somewhat active.

If that makes any sense ._.;
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 03 2012 01:33 GMT
#122
@Obzy

We don't want lurkers. That's the reason for the policy lynch. Force people to not lurk. We want active conversation from EVERYONE as that's best for town.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:34 GMT
#123
On November 03 2012 10:32 Obzy wrote:
Wouldn't making a lurker-lynch policy be somewhat counterproductive? Like - lynching lurkers, that sounds smart. But if it's "policy", then everyone knows not to lurk - so there wouldn't be a lynch on lurkers - and if there was, why the heck would mafia be lurking? It's more like lynching the people with the least time, as long as everybody is at least somewhat active.

If that makes any sense ._.;


If anything, a lurker policy forces mafia to post. That's what we want. The greater the sample size, the greater the chance for a good read
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#124
On November 03 2012 10:33 Rad wrote:
@Obzy

We don't want lurkers. That's the reason for the policy lynch. Force people to not lurk. We want active conversation from EVERYONE as that's best for town.


This ^
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:35 GMT
#125
Anyways what's your guys thoughts on alsns post?
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#126
Right - no; I agree with that - I guess I was caught on the wording. Describing it as a policy lynch made it sound like there wouldn't be much discussion on the matter which sounded counterproductive.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 03 2012 01:36 GMT
#127
Sheesh this thread moves fast I need to start quoting o_o; I write a post and there's 3 replies above me.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 01:37 GMT
#128
On November 03 2012 10:36 Obzy wrote:
Right - no; I agree with that - I guess I was caught on the wording. Describing it as a policy lynch made it sound like there wouldn't be much discussion on the matter which sounded counterproductive.


The idea is we get this topic out of the way ASAP so we don't get bogged down discussing policy for all of day 1.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 01:40 GMT
#129
My thoughts on Alsn's post? Well, he's not wrong. Hyperbolic, perhaps, but not wrong.

You're very quick to FoS him; just like you did D1 to Dandel last game.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Obzy
Profile Joined April 2009
United States525 Posts
November 03 2012 01:40 GMT
#130
In that case, sounds good. I agree. Regarding Alsn's post... It kinda looks like he's responding like that just cause you said pulling an Alsn? I guess? Or trying to goad some sort of discussion.
I have nothing to put here. Obzy#1821 on Bnet.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:41 GMT
#131
On November 03 2012 10:28 debears wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:20 Alsn wrote:
On November 03 2012 10:04 debears wrote:
If I'm not here for lynch, its irl conflicts 99% of the time. Don't pull an Alsn
I like it how you say 99% of the time, yet I know from reading XXIX's scum QT that you were away on purpose for the last lynch. I also bet you haven't yet participated in anywhere near 100 lynches, so technically that's a lie. Although, I probably should have paid more attention to what you actually voted for that game as opposed to whether or not you were actually around so I'll let that one slide.

I'm Alsn, I'll be around for flip-time generally, but they happen at 1 am local time so don't expect me to stick around for too long afterwards.

Prior games include XXV(VT), XXVIII(VT) and XXIX also as VT.

And yea, if given the choice between weak scum reads and hardcore lurkers, I'll hunt down and feed the hardcore lurker gone off cheesecake first chance I get. That being said, I'm off to lurk(also known as sleep, for those of you concerned with base things such as human metabolic function).


A lie? I've played in 3 games. With what? 3 lynches each. I only missed the last one cuz you said you would unvote my scum teammate if i didn't come back. So that's 90%. Not a lie. I was there only 45 minutes before the lynch, after u said that you weren't voting dandel if i was afk l. If you didn't say that, i wouldve come back.

If fact, for mafia it is usually dumb to not be active around lynch due to the suspicion it causes and the lack of control ot gives the scumteam

FOS Alsn
for real. You know better than to call me a liar like that especially when 1) its an exaggeration if anything and not a lie and 2) when being afk around lynch is usually bad for scum
Argue however much you want, you were missing from the thread on purpose. The fact that you were away because of something I said is besides the point. Hand waving away someone not being around because of IRL issues is a mistake I'm not libel to repeat.

However, like I said, unless there's something inherently scummy by not being around I won't hold it against you. I got hung up on the fact that you were missing much more than what actually happened while you were missing last game.

The fact that you're saying it's not a lie is hilarious though, 90% vs 99% is a massive difference. I admit, it's nit picking, but it's still a lie. Don't think I'll make the same mistake and give everyone a second chance because they claim IRL issues. Especially when it's done like you just did as some kind of magic explanation as to why we should always expect that if you are away, it's all right, you've got stuff to do, we should just trust you. It's way too convenient.

And you instantly FOSing me for it suggests to me that you know it was a dumb thing to say but don't want to admit it. I'm really heading off to bed now but I expect better than knee-jerk reactions and stupid statements like "99% chance that I have pure intentions, trust me I promise!" or I'll definitely look out for you heading forward.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#132
Yeah i am. He calls me a liar in red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:42 GMT
#133
Ninjad

Nvm on the peace out
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 03 2012 01:43 GMT
#134
On November 03 2012 10:35 debears wrote:
Anyways what's your guys thoughts on alsns post?


I thought the "you haven't lynched a 100 people, liar!" was funny. Otherwise a pretty null read.
Did I miss something? What did you see?

+ Show Spoiler [Alsn's post for reference] +

On November 03 2012 10:20 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:04 debears wrote:
If I'm not here for lynch, its irl conflicts 99% of the time. Don't pull an Alsn
I like it how you say 99% of the time, yet I know from reading XXIX's scum QT that you were away on purpose for the last lynch. I also bet you haven't yet participated in anywhere near 100 lynches, so technically that's a lie. Although, I probably should have paid more attention to what you actually voted for that game as opposed to whether or not you were actually around so I'll let that one slide.

I'm Alsn, I'll be around for flip-time generally, but they happen at 1 am local time so don't expect me to stick around for too long afterwards.

Prior games include XXV(VT), XXVIII(VT) and XXIX also as VT.

And yea, if given the choice between weak scum reads and hardcore lurkers, I'll hunt down and feed the hardcore lurker gone off cheesecake first chance I get. That being said, I'm off to lurk(also known as sleep, for those of you concerned with base things such as human metabolic function).

FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 01:43 GMT
#135
For everyone, here is the compilation of the games I've played so far with the corresponding filters. It's very good that we know each others but I guess that you didn't really research my meta last game. So here you go !

-Newbie Mini Mafia XXVIII as Cop
-Looney Lynching Mini Mafia as mafia pardoner
-Newbie Mini Mafia XXIX as VT

@ Rad

The only potential lurkers that we have in this game are daoud and maybe Obzy (but it doesn't look like it). My problem with your policy is that it is directed towards these players in this game. What we have to be wary of is active lurking (refer to the mafiaQT in the previous game) and people blending in.
Do you see anyone else possibly lurking ?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#136
On November 03 2012 10:42 debears wrote:
Yeah i am. He calls me a liar in red and then peaces out without wanting to hear my thoughts. Aint that scummy? Considering how active he was around lynch time last game, which was only an hour before this


Are you really trying to play the activity card on Alsn? It's like 1-2AM there for him.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:44 GMT
#137
EBWOP: I repeated myself a bit there but my point is that yes, suspecting someone solely on the basis of being away claiming IRL issues isn't particularly helpful and I was guilty of it last game. But the post you made is way too convenient and your reaction is definitely scummy.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 03 2012 01:45 GMT
#138
Ah so you were going to bed, saw i actually responded when you were lurking, aka not sleeping, and now are going to sleep. That's great.

If you arent oblivious and actually look at my other games, i missed lynches cuz of irl. Odd that you don't acknowledge that
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 03 2012 01:50 GMT
#139
@ debaers

I don't think this one deserves a FoS. When Alsn says that it is technically a lie, that's just Alsn arguing about math and logic.

@ everyone

I'm going to be around at deadline but it is 10am for me so please expect me to take some time to catch up with the thread and not being able to think very clearly. I was seriously pissed off last game when you were jumping at me for my waking-up posts.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 03 2012 01:51 GMT
#140
Why is it odd to point out that you were ready and willing to use your established town meta to your advantage when you were scum? Especially in light of making a post where you basically ask us to unconditionally forgive you for that very behaviour?
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
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