EPTWhat do you think of Clarity's defense?
Who else are you particularly suspicious of right now?
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Rad
United States935 Posts
What do you think of Clarity's defense? Who else are you particularly suspicious of right now? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
What did you exactly ask marv and when ? Please notice how easy it is to ask if something is against the rules or not  Also I would like to answer me what were your thoughts when you saw this post for the first time : On November 05 2012 08:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Confirmed clarity as VT btw. | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
Don't you think the argument should be dropped? Let's say he actually did ask the host about it in PM. Trying to explain why he didn't disclose the information would just be WIFOM. Furthermore, if he IS town, trying to get his reasons for PMing is blue hunting (whether you mean to be doing it or not, his answer, if sincere (only he and scum would know), helps them hunt down the blues). If you want to keep putting pressure on Clarity, by all means, please continue. But put smarter pressure on him as you'll get nowhere with this discussion. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I need this information to be sure. I want to know what he asked The both questions are very relevant. | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
You don't agree that the information could be helpful for blue hunting (if his answer is sincere, that is)? I realize that if you're town, you actually don't believe he's town also so his answer is a scum answer, but let's say you're both town. Do you think the answer to your question is good information to give scum? | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 06 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote: Also I would like to answer me what were your thoughts when you saw this post for the first time : "Jesus Christ" I tried to stop him from doing this. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
Why Town Clarity would have never lynched Cheese Let's take a look at the history of the interactions between Clarity and Cheese On November 04 2012 17:20 Clarity_nl wrote: Top 3 choices in my eyes are Debears, Sylver and you. As for people who haven't answered my questions: Alsn, Cheese, Sylver. On November 04 2012 17:38 Clarity_nl wrote: Cheese is not looking scummy. He hasn't answered my question but that by itself doesn't mean a whole lot. It's in combination with other factors that it means something to me. <snip> Lynch - 17H -> Cheese is not looking scummy despite the fact that he did not answer Town Clarity question. Town Clarity must have some kind of town read on him... On November 05 2012 07:46 Clarity_nl wrote: I think that if you were to go on: being neutral and not making points = scum (on day 1) then Cheese would be a good target. I'm not convinced that it's scummy though, as I think keeping a clear head and taking in as much information as possible is most important day 1. I find there are always people to push information out of others, and I feel that (for me personally) if I push people I tend to get confirmation bias, so I avoid it early. On November 05 2012 07:59 Clarity_nl wrote: <snip> @ Rad He's being accused of the same things I am, if I argue for/against Cheese it'll all be major WIFOM Lynch - 2H -> Town Clarity has forgot Cheese for a while but then Alsn drops his case and asks Town Clarity what he thinks about Cheese. Town Clarity recognizes that Cheese is accused of the same things he is accused of but does not sympathize and does not try to defend him. Town Clarity is wishy washy on Cheese... Lynch - 1H30 -> Cheese claims and Town Clarity is doubtful. After all, Town Clarity knows already everything about the flavor which has been given to anyone. But then... On November 05 2012 08:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Confirmed clarity as VT btw. Then town Clarity is unable to recognize the genuineness of VT who was believing, like he might have done before and asked marv about it, that the flavor was imb4 and was like a password which would allow the VTs to acknowledge each others. Town Clarity knows that he is town. How could he not be moved by Cheese trying to confirm him town ? I would like to remind you that Town Clarity has never really been suspicious of Cheese. Instead, he coldly voted him and spat on his corpse while shouting WIFOM DEFENSE ! Town Clarity doesn't exist, Clarity is scum ! | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
But I don't want to bother. Who is still believing in Town Clarity ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 05 2012 08:47 Clarity_nl wrote: I am completely lost now after what just happened. Is there ANYONE other than sylver here that thinks debears might be scum? Seriously doubting right about now... By the way, this one is seriously reminding me Dandel Ion D1 during last game ^^ | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 06 2012 01:31 Clarity_nl wrote: "Jesus Christ" I tried to stop him from doing this. @ Clarity So he was looking genuine to you ? Why did you not try to defend him and push a lynch on debears ? | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 06 2012 01:11 Rad wrote: @Djo You don't agree that the information could be helpful for blue hunting (if his answer is sincere, that is)? I realize that if you're town, you actually don't believe he's town also so his answer is a scum answer, but let's say you're both town. Do you think the answer to your question is good information to give scum? @ Rad Yes, because there is something which doesn't make sense at all in his story. Please check his interactions with Cheese and tell me what you think about it. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
Do you really not see a scum motive for Cheese pointing me out as "confirmed town" Again, you seem to think I had special information after marv posted that everyone knows VT flavor, but I didn't, you were just as informed as I was. We all voted for Cheese. Town Clarity has forgot Cheese for a while No, I was just kinda busy answering 1001 questions from you and debears. I was busy defending myself. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 06 2012 01:52 Clarity_nl wrote: No, I tried to stop him from saying that because if he did, as town, it would be moronic. And as you pointed out, I was starting to doubt my case on debears. Do you really not see a scum motive for Cheese pointing me out as "confirmed town" Again, you seem to think I had special information after marv posted that everyone knows VT flavor, but I didn't, you were just as informed as I was. We all voted for Cheese. No, I was just kinda busy answering 1001 questions from you and debears. I was busy defending myself. @ Clarity Are you trying to deny your responsibility in the lynch ? Daoud did not vote for Cheese because he really believed that debears was scum... I have explained my reasons for lynching Cheese. I was being stupid but at least it makes some sense. I don't understand how you could not recognize that he was town and genuinely believing in the power of the VT flavor. How could you believe he was scum ? The only reason I see is that you were mafia and too happy to see a possibility to escape your lynch to think straight. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 06 2012 00:51 Djodref wrote: @ Clarity What did you exactly ask marv and when ? <snip> | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 06 2012 02:00 Djodref wrote: @ Clarity Are you trying to deny your responsibility in the lynch ? Daoud did not vote for Cheese because he really believed that debears was scum... I have explained my reasons for lynching Cheese. I was being stupid but at least it makes some sense. I don't understand how you could not recognize that he was town and genuinely believing in the power of the VT flavor. How could you believe he was scum ? The only reason I see is that you were mafia and too happy to see a possibility to escape your lynch to think straight. I was already safe from lynching before I switched. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 06 2012 02:01 Djodref wrote: Ask me again in the morning. Stop blue hunting and stop telling blues what to do. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 06 2012 02:02 Clarity_nl wrote: Ask me again in the morning. Stop blue hunting and stop telling blues what to do. @ Clarity After a post like this, the only possibility for you to be alive tomorrow morning is being mafia. | ||
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On November 06 2012 02:06 Djodref wrote: @ Clarity After a post like this, the only possibility for you to be alive tomorrow morning is being mafia. Explain. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 06 2012 02:06 Djodref wrote: @ Clarity After a post like this, the only possibility for you to be alive tomorrow morning is being mafia. You don't understand do you? Debears got the hint. Doesn't matter what I answer, what role I claim, it will help scum. | ||
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