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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On November 05 2012 08:34 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Confirmed clarity as VT btw. @ Clarity What did you think of this post ? | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
I'm the one who said "let's not make assumptions" a bit before that though. I am not confirmed town. | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
What did you think of this post at the moment when he posted it ? marv, it is against the rules to ask Clarity what he asked you exactly and when and also is it ok for him to answer this question? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 05 2012 17:28 da0ud wrote: If a lynch for D2 : I am currently running for yourself (see my case) and Clarity (he knew that non-VT would have the VT role). I did like Clarity's defense overnight, he sounded pretty honest to me. He has addressed calmly all the points against him. Just this slip is too much. He could be blue though, but I would not think he would have been that condescending if blue. I still keep Debears somewhere there on top of the list, but he has been consistent in driving town forward. Yet there is a lot of fluff, useless posts ("ugh mispost", etc.). If he is scum we should be able to find some clues with more pieces of information on people's alignment in the near future. I have a gut feeling on Rad. I will try to put a case on him during D2. If i cannot make a proper case with valid arguments against him, I will let you know why I find him to lay more townie then. @Everyone Can we stop with the whole fluff nonsense? If you bother to actually read my fucking filter, there are plenty of good posts. This whole fluff argument is lingering wayyyyyyyyyy too long @Djo Here was my inital reaction to Clarity's reactions to the CC claim On November 05 2012 08:56 debears wrote: Why would you think that doesn't prove anything. I didn't know everyone got the VT role pm? This sounds like you knew that everyone did @Clarity On November 05 2012 08:58 Clarity_nl wrote: I didn't want to assume things. I didn't know that either but I had considered it much earlier. I noticed the OP is different from my PM role. Alright there are some assumptions we need to make here 1) you're VT - You do not know anyone else gets VT role pm. You then ask marv. Marv clarify's everyone does have it. You don't share it with everyone to prevent VT claim or stop useless VT claims 2) You're a blue - You know you got the VT claim, but you're claiming VT right now. You knew VT's did not know anyone else had role pm by talking to marv. You did not share with the town crucial information to prevent stupid/fake VT claims 3) You're mafia - You knew you have VT role pm, you aren't suprised by the claim flavor. You didn't tell the town crucial information because you're mafia. Which makes sense? Point 3 | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
One more thing on Sylver: After reading through his filter, during the claim time, there's one thing really apparent: he did not care that cheese was getting lynched. He hardly talked about whether we should believe cheese or not. His whole time was spent painting targets on the back of me and clarity | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:26 Clarity_nl wrote: I never claimed VT, I never claimed anything. On November 05 2012 08:58 Clarity_nl wrote: I didn't want to assume things. I didn't know that either but I had considered it much earlier. I noticed the OP is different from my PM role. Now, you're lieing. That's a claim | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
We're going to avenge you Cheese  | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:27 debears wrote: Now, you're lieing. That's a claim It's safe to assume that since Townie isn't Townie, other roles have different names too, right? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:29 Clarity_nl wrote: It's safe to assume that since Townie isn't Townie, other roles have different names too, right? Alright there are some assumptions we need to make here 1) you're VT - You do not know anyone else gets VT role pm. You then ask marv. Marv clarify's everyone does have it. You don't share it with everyone to prevent VT claim or stop useless VT claims 2) You're a blue - You know you got the VT claim, but you're claiming VT right now. You knew VT's did not know anyone else had role pm by talking to marv. You did not share with the town crucial information to prevent stupid/fake VT claims 3) You're mafia - You knew you have VT role pm, you aren't suprised by the claim flavor. You didn't tell the town crucial information because you're mafia. If you were blue, you would have shared the info thru marv | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:31 debears wrote: Alright there are some assumptions we need to make here 1) you're VT - You do not know anyone else gets VT role pm. You then ask marv. Marv clarify's everyone does have it. You don't share it with everyone to prevent VT claim or stop useless VT claims 2) You're a blue - You know you got the VT claim, but you're claiming VT right now. You knew VT's did not know anyone else had role pm by talking to marv. You did not share with the town crucial information to prevent stupid/fake VT claims 3) You're mafia - You knew you have VT role pm, you aren't suprised by the claim flavor. You didn't tell the town crucial information because you're mafia. If you were blue, you would have shared the info thru marv I didn't tell town because I didn't want scum to know I knew. This way when scum tries to fake claim VT I can call them out on it. I didn't expect a townie to make a shitty claim, why would he? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:19 Djodref wrote: Indeed, you are not confirmed town. What did you think of this post at the moment when he posted it ? marv, it is against the rules to ask Clarity what he asked you exactly and when and also is it ok for him to answer this question? You can ask him what and when he asked me, but no copy/pastes/screenshots/exact wordings from me. This issue is one where the basic idea is that what he asked / what I said is not 'confirmable' by any means. That's the general idea behind the not posting host PM rule. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
I just thought over things. I'm dropping any pressure against you until i do more research | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:45 debears wrote: @clarity I just thought over things. I'm dropping any pressure against you until i do more research I don't think forcing me to roleclaim during N1 is a good idea. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:26 debears wrote: @Everyone One more thing on Sylver: After reading through his filter, during the claim time, there's one thing really apparent: he did not care that cheese was getting lynched. He hardly talked about whether we should believe cheese or not. His whole time was spent painting targets on the back of me and clarity I said what I thought about cheese at the time. His move looked scummy. You trying to squeeze through a VT mass claim very late into the situation (well after anyone else) I found even more scummy. On November 05 2012 09:03 debears wrote: Ok. Let's try this Who didn't know about everyone having the role pm? | ||
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debears
United States2516 Posts
On November 05 2012 23:45 Clarity_nl wrote: I don't think forcing me to roleclaim during N1 is a good idea. Yeah i got the memo. It came late though | ||
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