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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
November 04 2012 23:19 GMT
#801
Lynch is in 1h 40 mins
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 04 2012 23:21 GMT
#802
Please excuse my silence. I'm considering Mr. Cheesecake atm.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:23 GMT
#803
@Alsn

Could you look over Sylver's filter? I see a few worrisome things

1) In an active game, he has been fairly inactive - only 2 pages in the filter. In other words, he isn't invested in the game/the lynch discussion
2) He still hasn't addressed my response to his case

On November 05 2012 06:08 sylverfyre wrote:
Debears, much of your 'unique reasoning' was full of holes. Anyone can make a case built on scraps, but your cases haven't held together in my eyes. Thus, I think you did it in order to hide the fact that you wanted to point fingers in the same direction as someone else and hide your OMGUSing.


3) His reasoning for voting me was bad
4) His latest troll post

On November 05 2012 06:03 sylverfyre wrote:
oOo Rad, it's a list. Some people think those are scummy to post!

Da0ud is quiet, but he speaks up and contributes when he's around. I can't really call that scummy. I definitely don't think it's worth lynching him over it.


5) He's not here before lynch
6) His reasons for suspicion are pretty ambiguous against me/Djo when there has been plenty said of us

On November 05 2012 01:43 sylverfyre wrote:
You know what, debears and Djodref are teaming up on someone again. I find it difficult to swallow that the two of them are independently finding the same people scummy. I think one of the two is scum, and I don't know which one. Worth noting that this is the second time that debears has followed up Djo on an attack (though the first time, it was also in defense of himself. This time, there's no such defense.


7) He defends Clarity by throwing out random suspicions on Djo/me/dau0d

On November 05 2012 00:38 sylverfyre wrote:
Djo is still making little sense with his plurality lynch strategy. After saying straight up that it's too late to discuss lynch strategy.

I feel like people might be reading into stuff too much on clarity, after forcing a lot of stuff out of him and then rejecting it as a "List" - you're basically cutting him off and being like "your idea is bad don't share that" and then are mystified when he gets quiet. Furthermore, he was active during the part of the day that debears was arguing rather constantly about his "Fluff Percentage" (and appears to even have gotten sidetracked by skimming through and pulling a number out, presumably hoping to get debears to drop the pointless argument)

Successfully waste someone's time -> call them scum for not contributing enough? I am really not sure how I feel about that.

Shit, he's not even the only one who iterated through the people he had questions for - so why is he the only one being crucified for it? o.O

I realize he didn't follow through with pressure on his cases (in fact, I pretty much missed the question he asked me until I got around to it by scumhunting at Djo's prod.)

I wish he hadn't left so abruptly though.

Da0ud seems in the same boat. He's on the quiet side, and now he's waiting before making another move.


8) He reposts pretty much the same thing an hour later

On November 05 2012 01:40 sylverfyre wrote:
Djo is still making little sense with his plurality lynch strategy. After saying straight up that it's too late to discuss lynch strategy.

I feel like people might be reading into stuff too much on clarity, after forcing a lot of stuff out of him and then rejecting it as a "List" - you're basically cutting him off and being like "your idea is bad don't share that" and then are mystified when he gets quiet. Furthermore, he was active during the part of the day that debears was arguing rather constantly about his "Fluff Percentage" (and appears to even have gotten sidetracked by skimming through and pulling a number out, presumably hoping to get debears to drop the pointless argument)

Successfully waste someone's time -> call them scum for not contributing enough? I am really not sure how I feel about that. He's got a 4 page filter which doesn't read as fluffy to me (I admit I'm just skimming right now)

Shit, he's not even the only one who iterated through the people he had questions for - so why is he the only one being called out for it? o.O

I realize he didn't follow through with pressure on his cases (in fact, I pretty much missed the question he asked me until I got around to it by scumhunting at Djo's prod.)

His latest posts really make me think he isn't pulling off some active lurking strategies.

BTW, game 1 he had page and a half when he got modkilled. At the same time this game, he has almost twice that. I really can't call that "more passive" even though he's not coming out swinging this game.


What do you think Alsn?
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 04 2012 23:24 GMT
#804
On November 05 2012 08:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Everyone seems so concerned on why I haven't been pushing my case on Djo. You know why? Because everything that I find scummy about him, people attribute to his "Djo" attitude and the way he words things. I made a ton of mistakes last game that I find him doing this game. I point them out, but the entire thread is just like "You know, it's just Djo being Djo". Incredibly frustrating. I dropped my case and accusing him of scummy behavior because I actually didn't feel like hitting my head into this brick wall anymore. So, I decided to go back to a neutral stance and look at what other people were doing.

His 180 on pressure voting is something that I found to be damning as hell (Alsn, I think you agree on this?) He explains this by giving some sorry excuse about the difference between suspicion votes and pressure votes and blah blah blah. You know what? Fuck that. Djo is scummy as hell to me. Was last game(regardless of me being scum), is this game. I don't give two shits how he handles the language or his defense. The only reason he gets away with a ton of his posts is because his meta is cheerfully innocent.

/Engageconfirmationbiasgoggles

##Vote: Djodref

Also, Regular Fapper right here. Just fappin' away.
I agree that his vote pressure 180 is weird. He's still one of the people that I find most suspicious. I don't agree that it(and his other actions) makes him more scummy than I find you to be because he has at least been displaying townie traits too(most prominently his willingness to push a lynch that no one else had seemed to consider first).
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 04 2012 23:28 GMT
#805
Go to the OP. Click under Vanilla Townie. Read the end of that vote post. Realize.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:29 GMT
#806
Oh shit. No joke CC
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:30 GMT
#807
how did i not notice that cc
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 04 2012 23:31 GMT
#808
Cheese, I've realized you were claiming that, but WHY? What's your motivation to do that at this point in the game?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#809
I can do that too. I don't wanna pay for no porn man. I don't think that saying that proves anything, can't make an assumption based on the host's behavior. Cheese why did you claim VT?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:32 GMT
#810
Well, it isn't indicated in the flavor, so mafia wouldn't notice it would they?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#811
You guys obviously didn't read the OP.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 04 2012 23:33 GMT
#812
Debears did
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:34 GMT
#813
Yeah :D of course so. Well that's good to know.

*high fives CC*
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 04 2012 23:34 GMT
#814
Confirmed clarity as VT btw.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:35 GMT
#815
##Unvote
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 04 2012 23:35 GMT
#816
Cheese, why would you claim VT this early?

Why would you confirm clarity as VT?

You realize if you're right, you're dropping blue targets for mafia NK.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:36 GMT
#817
That's why I unvoted.....
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:36 GMT
#818
Yeah unfortunately Rad...if you wouldn't have outright said it I don't think they would've noticed
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 04 2012 23:39 GMT
#819
@debears are you suggesting the scum are retarded? How would they have not noticed? I didn't want to bring it up at all once I noticed his claim, and it immediately made me suspicious of him, but everyone suddenly went all stupid so I wanted to put an end to it. No one should be claiming shit right now!
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 04 2012 23:42 GMT
#820
hmmm Alsn has gone quiet
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