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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 05 2012 00:00 GMT
#841
I claimed because the OP isn't indicative of flavor. I assumed Marv made a boo-boo, but apparently not since scum got role PM's too. Debears caught it right away. It also was a moment of fun in this thread xD
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:00 GMT
#842
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 00:02 GMT
#843
On November 05 2012 09:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I claimed because the OP isn't indicative of flavor. I assumed Marv made a boo-boo, but apparently not since scum got role PM's too. Debears caught it right away. It also was a moment of fun in this thread xD


@ Cheese

So, it's ok for you to get the thread derailed for a joke at one hour before the lynch ?
Why did you claim, for real ?
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 05 2012 00:02 GMT
#844
On November 05 2012 09:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie


That and the fact that I wasn't told that any other role/alignment had it
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 05 2012 00:02 GMT
#845
On November 05 2012 08:23 debears wrote:
@Alsn

Could you look over Sylver's filter? I see a few worrisome things

1) In an active game, he has been fairly inactive - only 2 pages in the filter. In other words, he isn't invested in the game/the lynch discussion
2) He still hasn't addressed my response to his case

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:08 sylverfyre wrote:
Debears, much of your 'unique reasoning' was full of holes. Anyone can make a case built on scraps, but your cases haven't held together in my eyes. Thus, I think you did it in order to hide the fact that you wanted to point fingers in the same direction as someone else and hide your OMGUSing.


3) His reasoning for voting me was bad
4) His latest troll post

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 06:03 sylverfyre wrote:
oOo Rad, it's a list. Some people think those are scummy to post!

Da0ud is quiet, but he speaks up and contributes when he's around. I can't really call that scummy. I definitely don't think it's worth lynching him over it.


5) He's not here before lynch
6) His reasons for suspicion are pretty ambiguous against me/Djo when there has been plenty said of us

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On November 05 2012 01:43 sylverfyre wrote:
You know what, debears and Djodref are teaming up on someone again. I find it difficult to swallow that the two of them are independently finding the same people scummy. I think one of the two is scum, and I don't know which one. Worth noting that this is the second time that debears has followed up Djo on an attack (though the first time, it was also in defense of himself. This time, there's no such defense.


7) He defends Clarity by throwing out random suspicions on Djo/me/dau0d

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On November 05 2012 00:38 sylverfyre wrote:
Djo is still making little sense with his plurality lynch strategy. After saying straight up that it's too late to discuss lynch strategy.

I feel like people might be reading into stuff too much on clarity, after forcing a lot of stuff out of him and then rejecting it as a "List" - you're basically cutting him off and being like "your idea is bad don't share that" and then are mystified when he gets quiet. Furthermore, he was active during the part of the day that debears was arguing rather constantly about his "Fluff Percentage" (and appears to even have gotten sidetracked by skimming through and pulling a number out, presumably hoping to get debears to drop the pointless argument)

Successfully waste someone's time -> call them scum for not contributing enough? I am really not sure how I feel about that.

Shit, he's not even the only one who iterated through the people he had questions for - so why is he the only one being crucified for it? o.O

I realize he didn't follow through with pressure on his cases (in fact, I pretty much missed the question he asked me until I got around to it by scumhunting at Djo's prod.)

I wish he hadn't left so abruptly though.

Da0ud seems in the same boat. He's on the quiet side, and now he's waiting before making another move.


8) He reposts pretty much the same thing an hour later

Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 01:40 sylverfyre wrote:
Djo is still making little sense with his plurality lynch strategy. After saying straight up that it's too late to discuss lynch strategy.

I feel like people might be reading into stuff too much on clarity, after forcing a lot of stuff out of him and then rejecting it as a "List" - you're basically cutting him off and being like "your idea is bad don't share that" and then are mystified when he gets quiet. Furthermore, he was active during the part of the day that debears was arguing rather constantly about his "Fluff Percentage" (and appears to even have gotten sidetracked by skimming through and pulling a number out, presumably hoping to get debears to drop the pointless argument)

Successfully waste someone's time -> call them scum for not contributing enough? I am really not sure how I feel about that. He's got a 4 page filter which doesn't read as fluffy to me (I admit I'm just skimming right now)

Shit, he's not even the only one who iterated through the people he had questions for - so why is he the only one being called out for it? o.O

I realize he didn't follow through with pressure on his cases (in fact, I pretty much missed the question he asked me until I got around to it by scumhunting at Djo's prod.)

His latest posts really make me think he isn't pulling off some active lurking strategies.

BTW, game 1 he had page and a half when he got modkilled. At the same time this game, he has almost twice that. I really can't call that "more passive" even though he's not coming out swinging this game.


What do you think Alsn?

1, 2) Maybe count the number of sentences instead of the number of posts. I'm spending a lot of time on my posts, and if that makes me scummy then I just don't know what to say.

3) My original reason for voting you was to pressure you. As with many early pressure FOS/Votes, I kinda pulled a reason out of thin air because I don't know much. Then I got more reasons, and used them, when you OMGUS retort on me and so forth.

4) My troll post is a veiled criticism of people earlier saying "Lists are bad"

5) I'm here. Watching MLG Finals and handling some IRL obligations, but I'm here.

6) My reasons to suspect you are not ambiguous. I just don't know which of you to suspect.

7) I defend clarity... by throwing out suspicions on the same people I have been suspecting all game. If I suspect you, why the hell would I trust your opinion lynch targets and think that people should follow them?

8) Holy shit, I didn't realize I did that. Why was that post in two browser tabs :/ O_O I literally thought that was an incomplete post and kept writing on it. Massive mistake, I'm sorry.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 05 2012 00:03 GMT
#846
Ok. Let's try this

Who didn't know about everyone having the role pm?
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
November 05 2012 00:03 GMT
#847
I still want my Clarity lynch by the way
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 05 2012 00:03 GMT
#848
On November 05 2012 09:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
Yea, I get what happened. But can we assume that scum knew about the flavour text or what? I don't see the reason to point it out to us if claiming that means that they are 100% VT no chance of that claim being false? Cause otherwise the game would be over at this point?
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 05 2012 00:04 GMT
#849
On November 05 2012 09:03 debears wrote:
Ok. Let's try this

Who didn't know about everyone having the role pm?


Wouldn't that out every VT and be extremely anti town?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 05 2012 00:04 GMT
#850
I guess the scum did know about the flavor text, but I didn't know they knew about it.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#851
On November 05 2012 09:03 debears wrote:
Ok. Let's try this

Who didn't know about everyone having the role pm?

WTF ARE YOU BLUE HUNTING?
You're asking "will all vanilla townies please stand up" - which paints a giant target on every blue role.
da0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Hong Kong252 Posts
November 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#852
I am only page 36 of the thread, I wanted to catch up properly but I will have to read in diagonals.

Mods, may i have a vote count ?
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#853
Actually, it would make the list of people who aren't town a hell of a lot smaller.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
debears
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2516 Posts
November 05 2012 00:05 GMT
#854
On November 05 2012 09:04 Rad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:03 debears wrote:
Ok. Let's try this

Who didn't know about everyone having the role pm?


Wouldn't that out every VT and be extremely anti town?


Eh. didn't think about that.......yeah.....nvm
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#855
On November 05 2012 09:03 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
@ Alsn

The reason debears says that is because the OP role says Townie
Yea, I get what happened. But can we assume that scum knew about the flavour text or what? I don't see the reason to point it out to us if claiming that means that they are 100% VT no chance of that claim being false? Cause otherwise the game would be over at this point?


I took marvel's post as: everyone who's not VT got given the VT name
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
November 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#856
On November 05 2012 09:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Actually, it would make the list of people who aren't town a hell of a lot smaller.


What's to stop scum from claiming VT? VT are the only people who didn't know about this.
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 05 2012 00:07 GMT
#857
On November 05 2012 09:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I guess the scum did know about the flavor text, but I didn't know they knew about it.
Yea and I'm just supposed to take your word for it? For all I know you and Clarity are both scum and you figured since the OP doesn't mention it you'd claim and then say "amagad, we couldn't possibly not be town!".

I think we have to assume the whole flavour thing to be a null tell.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
November 05 2012 00:07 GMT
#858
Actually, you're right lol. Forgot about liars.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
November 05 2012 00:08 GMT
#859
On November 05 2012 09:07 Alsn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I guess the scum did know about the flavor text, but I didn't know they knew about it.
Yea and I'm just supposed to take your word for it? For all I know you and Clarity are both scum and you figured since the OP doesn't mention it you'd claim and then say "amagad, we couldn't possibly not be town!".

I think we have to assume the whole flavour thing to be a null tell.


That means the only new info we have is that Cheese claimed VT..... ?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Alsn
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden995 Posts
November 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#860
On November 05 2012 09:08 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2012 09:07 Alsn wrote:
On November 05 2012 09:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I guess the scum did know about the flavor text, but I didn't know they knew about it.
Yea and I'm just supposed to take your word for it? For all I know you and Clarity are both scum and you figured since the OP doesn't mention it you'd claim and then say "amagad, we couldn't possibly not be town!".

I think we have to assume the whole flavour thing to be a null tell.


That means the only new info we have is that Cheese claimed VT..... ?
You and Cheese actually.
Machina improba! Vel mihi ede potum vel mihi redde nummos meos!
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