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Keirathi
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Keirathi
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 Marv has moved pretty far up my scum reads. Maybe even higher than ZB at this point. I don't want to hammer tonight, but I do expect his long defense that he promised when I wake up. Also a quick question marv: Do you still think I am scum? Maybe me and Hapa for coming up with the exact same case at nearly the exact same time? You obviously think Hapa is scum, but if not me, who is your second candidate? Hell, if you still think I am your second candidate, who is your third and why? | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Marvellosity (3) - Hapahauli, Drazak, iamperfection Hapahauli (1) - Marvellosity Not Voting (4) - Keirathi, austinmcc, Z-Boson, DarthPunk With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day ends when a majority is reached. | ||
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Keirathi
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Keirathi
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On October 24 2012 14:52 Keirathi wrote: Bleh I started writing a bunch of stuff then almost fell asleep. Trying to think after drinking isn't quit as easy as I was hoping Marv has moved pretty far up my scum reads. Maybe even higher than ZB at this point. I don't want to hammer tonight, but I do expect his long defense that he promised when I wake up. Also a quick question marv: Do you still think I am scum? Maybe me and Hapa for coming up with the exact same case at nearly the exact same time? You obviously think Hapa is scum, but if not me, who is your second candidate? Hell, if you still think I am your second candidate, who is your third and why? EBWOP: I ask because I think you've given (at least minor) town reads to every other person in the game aside from Hapa and I. And I know that I'm not scum. So if you're not, and I got lynched and flip town, who would you go after then? | ||
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DarthPunk
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 24 2012 15:13 DarthPunk wrote: Keir. f your still around. Who is your top candidate for marv's partner if he is scum? Haven't settled for one between ZB/Draz/iamp for now. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
Anyways, I really need to be in bed. I'll be around in the morning. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
------------------------------------------ With that said i had something stuck out to me when i was re reading some filters Darthpunk On October 23 2012 10:47 DarthPunk wrote: I will talk about it during the day. If you still feel the same need to know. after my second time reading this i just want to know how did you know you were going to live? because you in fact waited untill the day and not before the flip to post your thoughts. What gives. Also what irony if i am in fact right. | ||
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iamperfection
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kushm4sta
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On October 24 2012 22:12 iamperfection wrote: alright so i have fresh mind and i just want to say something about marv that some of you guys might not understand. If there's one thing about marv that you might not know is that regardless of alignment he loves winning. Go look at rockband when palmar pissed him off he didn't whine like a baby he came back and tried to figure thing out after 1 hour. He is super dedicated to winning and his refusal to try to figure things out yesterday is very telling. ------------------------------------------ With that said i had something stuck out to me when i was re reading some filters Darthpunk after my second time reading this i just want to know how did you know you were going to live? because you in fact waited untill the day and not before the flip to post your thoughts. What gives. Also what irony if i am in fact right. You are right that I didn't fear being Killed. Mainly because most of the players in this game are far better than I so which scum in their right mind would kill me? Furthermore. I was explaining why I would argue hard against a keirathi lynch. If I am dead it does not matter. Savvy? Weak as shit case. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
One thought: We can assume there's a doctor, as the alternative is that mafia didn't send in a N1 kill. Doctor seems far more likely. IF we have a doctor, mafia know the setup. 100% On October 20 2012 03:53 Blazinghand wrote: If they have a roleblocker, mafia knows we have a parity cop. If no roleblocker, mafia knows we don't have a cop. So both mafia and our cop/boxer know the setup, the rest of us don't.Possible Setups A) 1 Forum Hero, 1 Trilaner, 1 HopeTorture, 1 NesTea, 5 Progamers C) 2 Forum Heroes, 1 BoxeR, 1 HopeTorture, 5 Progamers So, just a thought. IF you're boxer, consider claiming later (not today probably). Mafia knows whether we have a boxer or a cop, so you're not giving them setup information if you claim. I know this doesn't matter much, but...I was jonesing for some setup speculation among all this actual scumhunting. Now to get reading. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9647 Posts
On October 24 2012 23:42 DarthPunk wrote: You are right that I didn't fear being Killed. Mainly because most of the players in this game are far better than I so which scum in their right mind would kill me? Furthermore. I was explaining why I would argue hard against a keirathi lynch. If I am dead it does not matter. Savvy? Weak as shit case. i believe almost everyone had a town read on you. So you in fact should have been thinking the opposite. Scum team wouldn't want to keep around someone everyone thinks is town. A nk would make sense on you and the fact that your thinking was the complete opposite is bull shit. How can you not see that? | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
Unless mafia didn't send in night actions, ofc. After LC I can't discount that : p | ||
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iamperfection
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On October 24 2012 23:53 Keirathi wrote: No one claimed roleblock. Reasonably safe to assume we're in the doc/boxer setup. Unless mafia didn't send in night actions, ofc. After LC I can't discount that : p liquid city never forget | ||
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Z-BosoN
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Regarding DarthPunk In light of iamp's suspicions, I'll post my own. On October 24 2012 10:27 DarthPunk wrote: Look at that Vote count. Scum are highly unlikely to bus. Look at who is voting for marv off the bat. 2 of the scummiest players IMO. Unless the keir- marv thing was manufactured I don't see keir being buddies with him. nor austin. Maybe ZB. but honestly shit is looking far too easy. This is one thing he likes to say as scum. There is no way that things right now are looking "too easy", especially when someone like marv is under scrutiny. He says they are looking "too easy" right after a huge destructive case against marv, to which he simply agreed with and started assuming marv is scum. Anyways, I'm keeping a town read on him, the rest of his filter seems to me like his general townie self. Also, the amount of suspicion he is keeping on me is compatible with what he's actually saying, I don't feel it's going overboard like it was in Liquid City. @Hapa Well, this came as a surprise: On October 24 2012 10:36 Hapahauli wrote: We'll cross that road when we get there. I can see anyone being mafia #2 with marv with the exception of Kei. And no I don't think bussing is unreasonable here. I think my case is strong, and I think it's worth it for scum to bus here. However, I don't want to go down that road of analysis until I see marv flip for myself. Can I have your thoughts on why Kei is your biggest town read? Gonna read Hapa's case and go through iamperfection. Quick note on iamp. He's being really quick to vote. The first day around, he quickly plopped his vote on v7 and let it stay there. Right now, he's done the same with marv. It seems to me like he is dodging the hammer vote, I don't really buy his voting patterns. Granted the amount of pressure I got just because omg I killed a townie, it's natural for scum to want to vote quickly here. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:55 drazak wrote: To me, your play is pretty neutral, but based on the meta evidence? I think you're scum. I have no problem voting youbased on the meta evidence. ##vote marvellosity Could you please explain "your play is pretty neutral" You have not mentioned marv ever in your filter until hapa makes his case. So please explain why you found his play this game to be neutral. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On October 24 2012 09:03 marvellosity wrote: Mostly true. I leant town on quite a few players. The closest comparison game is Dwarf Fortress, where I made 2 votes all day - first on Custos for not caring about town and secondly on prplhz for not caring about town. I thought a lot about the other flavour of the day in that game (forumite), decided I didn't want to lynch him, and then did remarkably little to stop him getting lynched. My last scum game, Liquid City - how many people did I express suspicions/scumreads on? Many. Let's meta my last scum game and this game then? Its funny you mention DF, because that was one of the games I was thinking about while writing up my thoughts, since I am obviously a bit biased towards it and Can't Believe because we were both town in each of those. One huge difference between DF and this game, from what I remember, is that yea, you parked your vote on prplhz for "not caring about town", while not particularly pushing for his lynch very hard. But, look at the amount of questioning you did towards other people. You literally made EVERYONE comment on the Forumite case. I just don't see that kind of determination in getting the answer right in this game. You got a few people to comment on me, but mostly you just kept dialogue running with whatever was going on, throwing out your own comments but not really digging into the people who started those topics. Also, you gave almost NO town reads in DF iirc. Sciberbia was the most townie motherfucker in the game by far (hence why I protted him n1 over you ), and I don't remember you ever even calling him town. You may have had town reads, but you got suspicious of nearly everybody at one point or another in day1 for stances they took or something dumb they said, which I just don't see here.Anyways I would appreciate it if you would answer me question a few posts up. | ||
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austinmcc
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