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nackhtjogger
Germany105 Posts
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
I am going to be very nice to you. If you tell me what kind of stunt you tried to pull back there, in detail. You will get free candy. Daddy isn't mad at you. He just wants to understand. | ||
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nackhtjogger
Germany105 Posts
On October 30 2012 09:20 Alsn wrote: Yea, if I don't get a fucking brilliant explanation within at the very most 15 minutes I'm going to consider both of you scum for the rest of the game. Lol @ scum acting angry. Good night everybody. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Might as well admit to being scum, guys. Not posting amounts to the same thing anyways. Well, I'm gonna leave the thread now. Be back tomorrow. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
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debears
United States2516 Posts
FOS Inig FOS Roco What you two have done is notoriously anti-town. You, if town, would not in any way, be playing to win the game @Nackht In light of your recent active discussion, I'm not too focused on you right now. @Cheesecake If you do not come back, I'm grouping you with Inig/Roco | ||
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nackhtjogger
Germany105 Posts
Why didn't you vote for Cheese and wish-washed indecisively the whole time, causing confusion, instead ? I thought you said if Dandel is town, and since he claimed with a legit-looking breadcrumb to back it up it's pretty likely, that would make Cheese scum due to the high discrepancy of opinions emanating from the same material? You didn't act according to the convictions you claimed to have at all! You also said we are fucked if Djo is town. Why did you go along with the Inig derailment and then back to Djo? Why why why :lurk Also lurkers stop lurking and explain your behavior. There might be 3 scummers around, and even if I don't see why scumyous would switch from one townie to scumbuddy (or another town IF Cheesecake is town) when bussing wasn't necessary, it still bothers me. @debears, Dan, Rad, Alsn and whoever else is pissed about the lurkers.. let them explain themselves and then you explain to me why they would do what they did as scum (stop generalizing and instead focus on the motives they might have in this particular game and it's implications) | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
A) They, like all game, were just sheeping onto a candidate without thinking about it = without caring who actually gets lynched. Scum motivation here. This option would mean Cheese is town. B) It was an elaborate ploy to get our votes BACK onto Djo, because they "knew" how suspicious their votes looked, so it'd force the votes of the active people back onto a mislynch in Djo. Scum motivation. This'd mean that Inig (more likely) and/or Cheese (less likely and way more risky) are scum. C) They just wanted to lynch somebody else than Inig, plain and simple. Scum motivation. Means Inig is scum. So, to recap, I see 3 possible reasons. All are scum motivated. Cheese is 1-1 in possible scuminess here, while Inig is 2-0. Roco has the same alignment as Inig for sure. It's also a serious sign that they communicate with each other privately. And the worst part: They don't even try to explain their fucking selves. They just keep with their strategy and hope we'll try our hand at another mislynch and forget about them again. You can talk about your concerns of Alsn with him in the meantime, because it's not like the lurking boy wonders actually say anything. But I'mma be clear on this: If the lurkers don't come out with a REALLY damn good explanation of their actions during the night, I'm going to autolynch them first thing. (If I survive the night) And I'd ask you to do the same thing. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
Unless the scum team is me, Roco and Inig, how in the world can you conclude that I'm still scum? The only way I could actually vote Cheese after what happened that close to the lynch is if I for some reason did not believe that Inig and Roco were scum when they voted that way. The only reason for that would be if I as some kind of scumlord convinced them to do it in order to let myself not have to vote for Cheese. But wait, then Cheese would be town! I have no idea how you can still insist that me and Cheese are both scum, no matter how I slice it I don't understand how someone could arrive at that conclusion. If anything, I'd like you to explain why, exactly, it logically makes sense that I'm scum and that the actions leading up to lynch was me somehow saving my supposed scum buddy Cheese. @Everyone This turn of events is absolutely ridiculous, if Inig/Roco aren't scum, then we're fucked regardless if they continue playing the same way we've seen them do for the last couple of days. This because if they aren't, there's no fucking way we are going to get 4 consolidated votes on a scum. Which means I think that we are forced to lynch one of them and hope that there truly were scum intentions behind their actions. If we then don't hit red, well then the game is over. That being said, I'm still hoping for some amazing clue as to what the fuck just happened, but if Inig/Roco doesn't even want to fucking participate, then what can we do? We have to assume that they're scum. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Rad
United States935 Posts
On October 30 2012 20:46 Dandel Ion wrote: Okay, the motives I can see: A) They, like all game, were just sheeping onto a candidate without thinking about it = without caring who actually gets lynched. Scum motivation here. This option would mean Cheese is town. B) It was an elaborate ploy to get our votes BACK onto Djo, because they "knew" how suspicious their votes looked, so it'd force the votes of the active people back onto a mislynch in Djo. Scum motivation. This'd mean that Inig (more likely) and/or Cheese (less likely and way more risky) are scum. C) They just wanted to lynch somebody else than Inig, plain and simple. Scum motivation. Means Inig is scum. So, to recap, I see 3 possible reasons. All are scum motivated. Cheese is 1-1 in possible scuminess here, while Inig is 2-0. Roco has the same alignment as Inig for sure. It's also a serious sign that they communicate with each other privately. And the worst part: They don't even try to explain their fucking selves. They just keep with their strategy and hope we'll try our hand at another mislynch and forget about them again. You can talk about your concerns of Alsn with him in the meantime, because it's not like the lurking boy wonders actually say anything. But I'mma be clear on this: If the lurkers don't come out with a REALLY damn good explanation of their actions during the night, I'm going to autolynch them first thing. (If I survive the night) And I'd ask you to do the same thing. In regards to what I bolded, keep in mind that everything was just fine with the votes until inig jumped in and switched to cheese. This caused the panic, but the mislynch of djo was going to happen before that anyway. I cannot think of a scum motive for inig to jump in and switch to cheese. The town motive there would be he truly believed djo was town or cheese was scum. So, at panic time, we 3 said "Oh shit inig's being suspicious, screw that let's jump him" which I think was ok on our part because that shit was completely suspicious, and at the time it looked like he was trying to save djo (who I thought was scum). However, with djo flipping town, I can't figure out a single scum motive for him to do that, so while scummy and/or confusing (IMO non townie) as hell, I just can't see why he'd do it as scum. Now onto roco, he switched vote after we started panicing about inig, and after dandel and alsn jumped over to inig. I had shown interest in switching to inig and I tried to see if djo and/or nackht were interested in a switch. This is the point where roco changed to cheese. IF we knew inig was scum, I could see this as a scum motive for roco to jump in and vote cheese, because it forces our votes back on djo's mislynch, but since we don't currently know if inig is scum, I guess this can't be a scum tell. Again with roco as with inig, I can see a town motive for doing this. He already showed he didn't want to lynch djo earlier, and his current vote on dandel was useless to saving djo, but switching to cheese at least gives djo a chance (let's say that one of us might have been willing to switch to cheese, we had the chance to do so after both inig and roco switched and it would have gotten cheese lynched). Now let me get this clear. I don't understand WHY inig or roco did what they did, and I WANT EXPLANATIONS, but I don't know if we'll get them (from roco at least, might from inig, but it'll just be "I thought djo was town and cheese was scum"). They sure are making this game hard as hell for me to figure out, which seems completely untownie to me (then again wtf do I know), but I can't figure out a scum motive for what they did beyond "make this game confusing as hell for town." | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
The main issue is still that there's no explanation whatsoever. They were in the thread around the lynch, yet they didn't even bother to explain themselves. That to me either means that they are town and don't care at all about the game = we have lost, or they are scum and just can't find a good explanation = we have to lynch them. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
Maybe an elaborate double bluff? I don't know but every reason I can think of ends up being quite a long shot. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
If they don't, I'm going to assume the worst. They have given me no reason to to. | ||
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
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Alsn
Sweden995 Posts
This shit is depressing. | ||
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