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On October 18 2012 08:19 Mementoss wrote: 1- easier to sheep others list 2- holds back discussion or questions based on your list 3- mafia can do the math and strategically place players in areas that benefit them You are silly. (1) I don't seem to be sheeping (2) Sure, but I've been open about all my reads (3) If townies hold back lists, mafia CAN'T do the math and strategically vote. Mafia can only do that if people reveal their lists. Not to mention that it's pretty obvious who's at the top of my list, and that I'm trying to get others to share that read. Are you actually worried I'm going to sit back and try to manipulate my votes? Nope. Gonna push to get you lynched. You're overly worried about the math OR not town. Only one person is getting lynched here. As long as town comes to a majority vote, there's NO way to strategically vote as mafia. The top person gets lynched. All mafia can do is mess with their ordering and WIFOM and whatnot, but as long as town places our #1 candidate out of reach of manipulation, ain't nothing going to happen. | ||
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On October 18 2012 14:37 VisceraEyes wrote: See the stuff from yesterday with...mementoss, kush, and I. Turns out I don't find him scummy every game, even though both he and I remember me doing so. Moreover, I disagree with the someone doing anti-town things = dumb. There are plenty of players who have a particular characteristic or two that give others scummy reads on them every game.austinmcc is well aware of his bias toward Mementoss. The way he's tunneling now is indicative of an agenda imo. I feel like if he were town, this would factor in more and he'd be less sure of his read on Mementoss. Think about it. If townMementoss is always suspicious to austin, then why would he say "he's not dumb as town"? It seems to me that someone I consistently think does anti-town things as town, I'd think that person is dumb. It just doesn't even make sense - it's like a weak way to buddy up Mementoss early on. And then he goes full on tunnel-mode on 'toss today? On October 18 2012 06:35 austinmcc wrote: VE, when you catch up or do something, I'd like your thoughts on the following: (1) Why sandroba N1? (2) Why ET N2? (3) Do those NKs tell you anything about the identities of the remaining mafia? (4) Mementoss or Mementoss or Mementoss? 1) Because sandroba was very obviously and unquestionably town and is routinely able to decimate scumteams - but take that for what it's worth..the word of someone who replaced into the game late. Sand has a distinct scum meta that he was very obviously not playing this game. Obviously a smart guy like Sandroba is aware of how to subvert his meta, but that doesn't stop him from NOT doing so anytime he rolls scum (to my chagrin in Liar Game...) 2) ET is less obvious, but I'd have to say that for whatever reason, scum either wanted town to believe something that he said before he died, or wanted to make town believe something about ET that he couldn't protest because he's dead. ET isn't really known for his ability to nail scum, but he's no slouch. It could be for any number of reasons. 3) Obviously they tell me that there's someone who's played with Sandroba - or is aware enough of his reputation to know what to do with a townSandroba. They also tell me that at least one remaining scum member (possible the one in charge, probably the one I was just talking about) likes to play games with town. It tells me that there's someone relatively experienced on the scumteam. 4) I agree with others' assessment of his play - that his early contributions were solid enough, that he dropped of in activity (corroborated, I confirmed him in Liquid City and he didn't do shit) but came back looking just as townie if not more so (imo). I hope that's been helpful brudda. Now swing. (3) is sort of what I was really looking for, and what I was trying to get from ET. I didn't think much of this playerbase had played with sandroba, and so I was concerned that a guy who made it to R4 and wasn't particularly active or explanatory about why he wanted certain players lynched after ON's flip was the first NK. It made me think that either someone had played with him before, or someone actually went and reread a bunch of games. This quote has been stuck in my head - On October 13 2012 15:09 Djodref wrote: because that's the only time I remember anyone saying they did the legwork and looked at Sandroba's past games. If Hiro/VE isn't scum, that statement + the sandroba NK cause me to lean scummier on Djoref (Hiro/VE have played with sandroba, so someone re-reading past games wouldn't be necessary if they're scum).Sandroba Sandroba is also a lurker but he looks scummy enough in my eyes to deserve the lynch. I'm not familiar with his meta but I've been skimming through his filter in the C9++ game and I must say that it looks like night and day when you compare it to his actual filter. | ||
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djodref thrawn djo/kush again for voting Hopeless1der in R3. mementoss's case on djodref IS good. There are a lot of things in Djodref's filter that DO look bad, for some reason my gut pushes me the other way though. With the way VE answered my question about Sandroba's NK, that may be enough to push me over the edge on djo, gotta reread him again and check out the recent stuff. thrawn is almost purely the same set of posts that rubbed mementoss the wrong way, lol. On October 18 2012 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote: But what still doesn't make sense about is that I can't justify to myself ever being willing to share any of my votes... but there was a TON of hesitation about sandroba vs ON so I can see you taking that risk with your votes. Austin I decided to work out what my new list would be, in a hypothetical scenario where I decide you're town. It comes out looking like this: 1 mementoss 2 Djodref 3 hiro 4 da0ud 5 austin 6 kushm4sta 7 hopeless1der 8 thrawn That would be my new list of most scum to most town. Mementoss gets the first place because your case against him is very convincing. I'll have to go through his filter again myself but every time you've made a memtoss case I've found it convincing. Of course that list would have to be adjusted based on what everyone else is doing, because we are in fact listing our top choices for lynch instead of our top scumreads. But anyways what do you think about djodref? I think that if you're town, then the remaining scum are probably within mem, djo, hiro. Da0 is a guy like kush said, I don't have strong convictions about. My gut read tells me that his scumhunting has extremely newbie townie traits but on the other hand I don't want to ignore the reads of ET and sand. On October 18 2012 04:34 thrawn2112 wrote: how does it not make sense? if one of the people who i've been mostly suspicious of (austin) is making a case against you.... do you not see how that would make me change my mind about his cases if I decide he's town? if you want to call me scum go for it but please do me the courtesy of saying more than it "rubs you the wrong way" The whole "I've been finding you scummy, but your case is very convincing, so if I find you townie then mementoss is my number one scumread" bit rubs me the wrong way/doesn't feel good/etc. How convincing my case is shouldn't turn on my alignment. If he just said that mementoss and I feel diametrically opposed, can't both be the same alignment, that would feel alright, but adding this middle step of the case on mementoss is unnecessary. He's sort of giving himself a variety of outs depending on flips, and almost overjustifying doing so, or justifying doing so with an odd statement. I'll look at them more thoroughly and get back with thoughts. VE, if you check djodref's town filter from newbie XXVIII, the smileys = scum thing doesn't quite hold up with him. I know you noted it was the weakest part, but dude likes smilies. + Show Spoiler + Things off the top of my head that make thrawn unlikely to be scum: voted ON R4, used my votes to vote ON R4, was asking me about my read on djoref, which I'm mixed on: [list][*]Actually wants my read on djoref (town)[*]Wants to know what I think of djoref, whether I'm a threat, in order to take sides on the mementoss/austin thing if that's what the lynch today comes down to(scummy, if djoref scum) | ||
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On October 18 2012 22:37 thrawn2112 wrote: Austin what are your thoughts about the possibility of a mementoss/hiro scumteam? When I look at the final brackets and color in who I am sure of as town, after looking at it those are just the two names that jump out at me. Hiro's D1 felt townie to me. I've specifically mislynched him before for not being more active in PTP3 when I remembered him being active in other games (Bureaucracy mainly). If you read scum QT from aperture, I was talking with him about that, and he said he just hasn't been able to be overly active lately. Based on that, I don't think Hiro was scum this game. I'm reworking those thoughts, but I don't think I'm currently scummy on VE either. For a mementoss/x scumteam, ack. I'm probably leaning mementoss/djo. mementoss can bus djo because he can actually make a good case on djo, knows where djo has slipped up and looked scummy. Hit those points, look like town mementoss, filp scum djo, probably get me off his back and then survive til lategame? I think that's pushing it, but there's still a big part of me that's absolutely sure djo or kush is scum because of those R3 votes on hopeless. We know ON was safe in R3 until the last moment. We know that scum couldn't/didn't save ON in R4. Simplest explanation for that is that scum expended a lot of votes in R3 trying to save ON there, and were just out of gas in R4, didn't have the votes to save him. | ||
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On October 18 2012 22:45 thrawn2112 wrote: wait you think mementoss is town now? did I miss something? I'm trying to figure this out. | ||
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On October 18 2012 22:37 thrawn2112 wrote: I'm kind of confused about this here. These are two names that jump out at you?Austin what are your thoughts about the possibility of a mementoss/hiro scumteam? When I look at the final brackets and color in who I am sure of as town, after looking at it those are just the two names that jump out at me. There are legitimate reasons you could connect them. VE defends mementoss hard when popping into thread VE likes mementoss's case on djoref And probably other things you could find if you went deeper, that's just the last couple pages. But you're proposing them as a scumteam because they jump out at you? What exactly does that mean? | ||
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On October 19 2012 00:10 thrawn2112 wrote: Does everyone agree? On October 18 2012 22:47 austinmcc wrote: there's still a big part of me that's absolutely sure djo or kush is scum because of those R3 votes on hopeless. We know ON was safe in R3 until the last moment. We know that scum couldn't/didn't save ON in R4. Simplest explanation for that is that scum expended a lot of votes in R3 trying to save ON there, and were just out of gas in R4, didn't have the votes to save him. Where you talk about kush "being dumber than what I expect from him," I phrase it differently in my head but have similar thoughts. D3 he's...reverted. He finds my posts on da0ud convincing, repeats my argument later and seems to have adopted it, but then accuses me of doing nothing but mementoss. I didn't find it dumb, but it felt like kush was starting to become the ... more jumpy and frantic kush from Liquid City whose votes were swapping all over the place for weird reasons on D1. I will reread him. I'm still looking mementoss over this game and some other games. If I stop pushing him as scum, then I'm in favor of a djo or kush lynch, but preferring djo right at this point. I'll give it more thought, and see what reading kush pulls up, but djo noting that he'd gone and read at least one town sandroba games currently puts him ahead of kush in my mind, because I really think that explains the N1 kill better. | ||
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On October 19 2012 00:32 thrawn2112 wrote: I don't know if there's any merit in the sandroba nk speculation with regards to people who are aware of his ability being likely scum... his veteran status was something that was brought up over and over again during D1 so everyone in the gamewould be aware of it. The fact that he moved on to R4 and played N1 in about the same way as D1 (tossing out SOME reads, and giving a small amount of explanation about 1-2), doesn't lead me to the conclusion that people who just know he's a vet or have been told he can play well would drop him N1. Under a different gamestate, I'd have no problem thinking he was killed purely on vet status. But with how people seemed to be reacting to his play THIS game, I find the N1 kill less likely based on vet status alone. | ||
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If mementoss were scum here, I would expect a different allocation of attention. That's somewhat tempered by the way the lynch worked on D2, not like he can do much to influence the lynch when he doesn't know when it's going to happen, but I'm alright with townmementoss for now. Current thought process is then something like: 1. Djodref 2. kush? 3. thrawn? 4. 5. 6. 7. da0ud 8. austinmcc middle is some combination of VE/mementoss/hopeless1der. Don't feel any of them are town as strongly as I do da0ud. Don't like any for scum over the top 3 right now. Hopeless1der probably in the 6 slot, mementoss 4 and VE 5? Will lock down the spots with ?s after more reading. | ||
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On October 19 2012 01:47 thrawn2112 wrote: austin why is djo #1? I get that you are wanting to lynch one of the people who voted for hopeless in hopeless vs ON, but why djo over kush? is it mostly because of that nk speculation? I want to lynch one of those two. There were scummy things in Djo's filter (Hiro and I were concerned with part of his opening post, + more recent stuff), but for some reason I had a gut feeling he was town. As in, there were more scummy things in Djo's filter than kush's filter, as I read them, but I just wasn't reading Djo as scum despite the scummy bits. The NK stuff is enough, however, to push me over the top on Djo and not go with gut here. So it's ... not MOST of the reason Djo is scummy, but it's this trigger that moves me from "done some scummy stuff but town" to "okay, maybe scummy stuff = scum when you factor in this other thing." Again, looking at kush's play this game a little closer, and will check to see whether he's so bus-happy (actually, he and someone "bussed" more or less on the next-to-last day of GSL Open 2 iirc). I know his response to my offering votes was not as robust as yours, and was a little silly/dumb, but apart from that I haven't been watching him closely. | ||
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On October 19 2012 02:03 Mementoss wrote: This is a pretty big contradiction from austin. Saying what I said about the hopeless situation was common knowledge, yet austin himself didn't seem to think that way earlier when he says "its pretty obvious scum let ON make the finals". No thats not what I said happened. I said the opposite. Scum was actively trying to NOT let ON make the finals and then confirmed town ET ruined their day.' Austin?? Am I reading this wrong? You're not reading it wrong but there are other posts than my question to ET. I pose a question to Hiro at some point, and there are some spots where I'm just looking over the votes, I think at one point just in a spoiler somewhere on an unrelated post? That ET post does stand...perpinducular or something to my other posts on R3/R4 all that jazz, but it's mainly because that question grows out of ET's comment about scum running good interference. That's not the point I'm talking about when I say common knowledge, it was earlier posts and I believe da0ud played around with the votes for the R3 matchup as well at some point in N2 or early D2. I can go dredge up these posts in a sec. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On October 14 2012 12:26 austinmcc wrote: The key key KEY matchup from D1 seems to be hopeless1der vs. ON. Can't point that out enough. ON was safe until right at deadline. Possible that scum expended a decent amount of votes in order to make that happen, but were happy to do so because they weren't worried about what happened in finals. Then BOOM. Deadline votes, ON moves on, and scum have already burnt a lot of their influence in R3. On October 14 2012 12:35 austinmcc wrote: Specifically: 18:07 - Djodref puts 6 on hopeless (H6, ON0) 4:27 - Hiro puts 2 on ON (H6, ON2) 4:36 - ET puts 2 on ON (H6, ON4) 4:49 - thrawn puts 1 on ON (H6, ON5) 7:09 - sandroba puts 2 on ON (H6, ON7) 7:10 - sandroba changes vote to 7 on ON (H6, ON12) 9:45 - kush puts 1 on hopeless (H7, ON12) 10:24 - OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT POSTED - SAYS (H7, ON 11) 10:33 - kush changes vote to 6 on hopeless (H12, ON12) 11:00 - ET changes vote to 6 on ON (H12, ON16) 11:00 - DEADLINE (H12, ON 15) Actually the numbers are really weird...kush puts 6 votes on Hopeless when it doesn't change anything? ET puts 6 votes on ON when it doesn't change anything... you guys vote weird. The official vote count is different, which means that under the official votecount, kush first voted hopeless once. He then voted enough to put hopeless through and save ON (ONLY UNDER THE OFFICIAL VOTECOUNT, WHICH SEEMS TO BE WRONG?). iirc he was also asking me in thread if I was gonna outvote him? I need to go find that. If so, shows that he was worried about expending votes and still having ON go through to the finals...(BUT THEN HE VOTED ON LATE TODAY) On October 14 2012 12:36 austinmcc wrote: Maybe there's not a lot there, I dunno. Jeez, only 2 people period vote for Hopeless, and they both dropped 6 votes in doing so. I dunno if it really says anything or not, except that ET very likely town (EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY HIS LATER VOTES DIDN'T DO ANYTHING AND THE VOTE COUNT SEEMS TO BE WRONG QQQQQQQQQQ) On October 14 2012 12:46 austinmcc wrote: So djodref on Hopeless, Kush providing the oomph to get Hopeless into the lead, then you sending ON through. Yet when given votes at the end of today, Kush used them on ON. And was set to do so before prplhz came in. Eeeeeenteresting. On October 15 2012 06:22 austinmcc wrote: Hiro, do you think that scum tried to save ON in R3 against Hopeless1der? On October 15 2012 07:54 austinmcc wrote: Sort of. Trying to find voting connections between ON/djodref/da0ud/prplhz + Show Spoiler + R1 prplhz votes 1x da0ud early. djodref beats da0ud by 1 vote. djodref votes 1x prplhz, 1x hopeless1der, 1x ON. kush beats prplhz by 1 vote. In each of those cases, they wasted votes on each other's opponents, not using enough to get their target to move on for 2 more votes. However, 1 minute before deadline: HiroPro voted 2x Kush, so prplhz was set to advance over kush until that point. Hopeless1der unvoted 1x prplhz, 1x ON, 1x Djodref. prplhz was therefore leading by 2 votes until the last moment. The double D lynch ended up the same as it would have been. R2 da0ud votes 1x djodref prplhz votes 1x Hopeless1der djodref votes 1x Hopeless1der ET vs. Djoref ends 4-5 with djoref passing on. Only da0ud spent votes to influence that matchup out of the group I'm watching. R3 djodref votes x6 Hopeless1der prplhz saves votes da0ud saves votes djodref is one of two hopeless1der voters. If we think scum tried to push hopeless1der over ON in R3, djodref and kush are the only people who voted him. kush pushed ON (to an extent, towards the end of the day) in R4. So djodref looks more scummy out of the R3 hopeless1der voters imo. djodref on D1 was set to push prplhz into R2 on R1. Last minute voting changed that. prplhz voted da0ud, djodref's opponent, but not hard enough to push da0ud through. There's nothing in here that really looks like x and y were trying to save eachother/help eachother out. There's a hiro response somewhere and I think a da0ud post or couple on the matchup, but that's what I dug out of my filter for that time period. | ||
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But then I look at what he actually did, and ... kush's #1 scum read is da0ud early: On October 11 2012 06:46 kushm4sta wrote: for 6ish hours kush is on da0ud. Then, Yeah daoud vs djodref.. I'm on team djodref meaning I vote for daoud to advance. Daoud's post just seems so awkward. SNIPPED He is my #1 scum read right now and I definitely want him to go through. On October 11 2012 15:59 kushm4sta wrote: I am not reading scum on this guy so I'm glad djodref passed instead. He shares his crazy thoughts too freely. Okay. He was #1 scumread, now townie because of the bits on alien invaders and "miniscum." I don't mind that. Note that R1 ended at 11:00 TL time. This was while da0ud was still scummy for kush, BEFORE the change of heart. But he gets on sandroba's case during R2 for voting da0ud late. On October 12 2012 02:54 kushm4sta wrote: @ET it's interesting that you say that Sandroba has a scummy scum-meta. Because my current read on him was that he was acting almost too scummy to be scum. He tries to push doaud through with no explanation by putting 2 extra votes on him. Also he does it without even saying he's going to do it. When we ask him why, all he has to say is: So a hunch with no reasoning is enough to override the majority's vote? On October 12 2012 03:08 kushm4sta wrote: ET that still has 0 explanation for why he thought daoud was scummy enough to double vote him near deadline. I get that kush's read has changed at this point, but Sandroba is "too scummy to be scum" for trying to push da0ud through to R2. When da0ud was still kush's #1 scumread. You don't get upset that someone tries to push your #1 scumread through to another round. There's weird thing #1 just from D1 Weird thing #2 is that he's got some ON comments, similar to what I didn't like from mementoss On October 12 2012 04:41 kushm4sta wrote: ON's got one post. This post - + Show Spoiler +Originalname vs Hiropro Original: I'm not going to vote someone because they are busy. Yes I buy his panic votes. I think his story about the PM is very believable. He only has 1 post of merit but I think the post is fine. He's definitely not afraid to share his thoughts. He brings up a good point about djodref's drunk post. Did drunkenness cause the vote or did it just cause him to not tell us about it? It bothered me at the time but I forgot about it. But anyway I don't think his 1 post looks scum. Hiropro: Not omgus but my suspicion of him comes from his suspicion of me. It's the only thing that's in his filter basically. He called my argument about the daoud's bye disadvantage a "contradiction" and he has not sufficiently explained how so. And he wants me so bad that he added another vote to put me over the edge at the last second? His arguments don't back up that kind of suspicion IMO. On October 11 2012 11:30 OriginalName wrote: Thoughts on tommorrows matchups as they stand: Post 1 in a (Probable) series. Echelon vs Djo -I placeholdered on Djo as I was well aware i was skirting the deadline and at this point i had no say in affecting things as they were. After going through thread i have thoughts on both: Echelon: Truthfully speaking, started out fine even with that completely irrelievent "Scumslip" (Once again reiterating- it's not a slip) however after those nice starting posts he moves towards really low content uninteresting posts that are completely meaningless "IM HELPING TOWN" posts that show hes posting but adds nothing to discussion vote counts. This on the other hand REALLY irks me, he says he reacts strongly to accusations and then right after we decided he wasnt as worth it and moved on he completely drops off the map again. THAT friends unlike my complete absence is scumlurk, throwing of heat and then ignoring us. Djo: I'm going to wait abit to call out lurking due to timezones. However he did vote me for megalurk then disappear. One thing that bothers me this time around is believe it or not, that vote on Mementoss. He uses the excuse that he was drunk to cover it up rather than assert his position harder and back it up. It was by his words an accident, at the very least he could push it and get more reactions, there is nothing wrong in an incorrect push as it always reveals something. It's a post on a single matchup. I don't see many shared thoughts there AT ALL. ET started out fine, but then moved to low content posts, and then finds that ET was scummy because ET responded sharply to scumreads on himself and then was less active. As to ON's thoughts on djo...he's going to wait to call out lurking, and he's bothered by a drunk vote on mementoss. Not exactly a bunch of thoughts. Covers only one matchup, seems to dislike both players in it? Doesn't...DO anything. kush's comments on that post, that it was "1 post of merit", "fine", and that ON is "definitely not afraid to share his thoughts" are NOT what I get from ON's post. kush continues to be concerned with ON and cases on ON On October 12 2012 05:34 kushm4sta wrote: Where is this strong case on ON? I can't find it. On October 12 2012 08:07 kushm4sta wrote: KUSH TALKS ABOUT DJO AND ET HERE, THEN FINISHES HIS ET THOUGHTS WITH After ON calls him out for low content and scumlurking: So this is that strong ON case sandroba was referring to? I'm not seeing any arguments that he is scum except for a vague reference to "disruption." There's a lot of anger here and a lot of omgus. On October 12 2012 10:49 kushm4sta wrote: (WHAT IS THIS LAST POST? IT'S NOT ULTRA-SLIPPY BUT...KUSH DOESN'T THINK ON MEANT TO VOTE DJO THAT DAY? HOW DOES KUSH KNOOOOOOOOOOOOW?)ah wtf I didn't see originals votes there for djodref.. i dont think he even meant them to be used today kush was involved in the modkill/replacement discussion, wondering what would happen to ON. Again, heavy concern with ON and specific concern as to whether he would be replaced or modkilled. then lots of hopeless/ON chatter. He's legit concerned about hopless1der's "i was scummy to catch scum" bit, which is fine, but he continues to be worried about votes on ON. + Show Spoiler + On October 13 2012 09:46 kushm4sta wrote: those aren't my final votes. Also omg it's later than i realized. Why the fuck are so many people voting for ON??? On October 13 2012 09:48 kushm4sta wrote: Why is ET voting for ON when he himself pointed out: On October 13 2012 09:51 kushm4sta wrote: Thrawn why are you voting for ON? Purely hypothetically, non-inflammatorally, etc, ON is probably going to get replaced or modkilled. Why would you policy lynch that??? On October 13 2012 09:52 kushm4sta wrote: I get that you are still null on him. You don't have to spend all your votes on him but ON makes no sense to lynch IMO. On October 13 2012 09:54 kushm4sta wrote: hiro has 2 votes on ON et has 2 votes on ON sandroba has 7!!! votes on ON @thrawn ah ok i see you changed your vote. Then he's really worried about me vote-bombing ON if he tries to vote hopeless. R2 I threatened to push djodref through over ET, when kush wanted ET through. So he's got reason to check...but again, there's just so much concern with ON. His reaction to ET pushing ON through was "not cool," and then when ET's votes were maybe not going to count, we got On October 13 2012 11:11 kushm4sta wrote: haha look at vote thread you got owned et This was one of my townreads D1...but this is a LOT of concern with ON. A lot more concern over ON than with other players. He has an early vote on Sand R4, but then changes to ON and puts the three votes I gave him on ON. Thread sentiment was shifting somewhat at that point, sandroba was starting to be vocal in defending himself whereas ON was still absent. Gonna keep going, but I do not like his D1. His D1 reads very scummy in light on ON's flip. | ||
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On October 16 2012 04:06 kushm4sta wrote: prpl you do realize giving it to ET is a scum claim right? No town would do this. He's just trying to kill the stongest town. So we know that prpl is scum. *  oes anyone disagree that prpl is scum at this point?**Spends all D2 thinking prplhz/da0ud scum. Spends N2 thinking da0ud scum, and at first mementoss is scum after I make a cast on mementoss and he makes a case on me. Then decides mementoss is town. Ends N2 with On October 17 2012 07:58 kushm4sta wrote: If I die: first let me day I should not die. Either Austin or ET should die and if they don't something is very wrong. I read straight through about half the thread and I feel confident in my current scumreads. THRAWN Read this scum's filter. He is like one of those annoying little dogs that nips at people's heels. He has very little content of his own. Mostly what he does is wait for someone to say something kind of off then go Omg why you say that? DJODREF His scumstrat= make big posts, people will be impressed and think you are town. Look past the length and you will see his scumminess. ET That last minute ON vote ro4, do not trust that shit. Remember he is the one who brought it to everyone's attention originally. Scum may have known ON was getting modkilled and decided to take the townie points from leading the lynch instead. Also note how he had no points to spend either way ro2. He used more votes than necessary ro4 so he would not have to ve accountable for his vote ro2. His activity has been real low except for when attacked. Then he turns super sayain. He never even commented on sandroba until AFTER the lynch during the ro2. Kush out. ET or I should die. But ET is one of kush's top 3 scumreads. Except that ET was "the strongest town" earlier in D2, for the same reasons kush says shouldn't be trusted now. This. This is the stuff that felt like kush regressing to me. This is kush's scumreads just jumping around all over the place, often in a contradictory manner. follow kush's da0ud read throughout the game, or the djodref one...gah. | ||
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On October 19 2012 04:17 thrawn2112 wrote: austin I think some of the formatting is messed up in the quotes beneath the "kush continues to be concerned with ON and cases on ON" line No, it's just poor job by me. I wanted to snip out part of that post, but then the context was lost. That's me trying to give the context of the quote in the quote in place of what I cut, without making it very apparent. | ||
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austinmcc
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 19 2012 04:50 thrawn2112 wrote: so this means you have a really strong town read on him right? I have a town read on him, but mostly he's the freshest set of eyes this game has. I've had luck when I just go back and look at a game after being a little lurky/absent, and he's valuable right now to my thought process as someone who wasn't around D1. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Since I'm asking, I'll note that I like kush over djo at the moment. That D1 really concerns me, and while I can't untangle the mess of connections and cases and suspicions that is thrawn/kush/djo right now, I'm thinking that if mementoss isn't scum then we've got 2 in that bunch. But thrawn is a side matter for me right now, and I'm more focused on djo/kush. | ||
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