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On October 13 2012 23:57 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 23:21 austinmcc wrote:On October 13 2012 22:52 Mementoss wrote:
prp: 8 Remain
ON: 8 Remain
da0: 9 Remain
Austin: 9 Remain
This^^ this right here is horseshit.
Apathetic voting up towards the last round is unacceptable.
I think everyone should only be using 5 of there votes
3 of these players alone trump the rest of the players in the game. Sandroba doesn't even have anyvotes to defend himself while ON has 9.
Actually, everyone should only be using 1 vote, and we can get some sort of real full out majority going where everyone is involved. For the people with 0 votes left.
##Mementoss vote "Player Name"
and I will use one of my votes towards giving you a voice in this lynch. I have a feeling scum has WAY too much control right now. But there is a possibility its too late anyways, this method should give more information to where people are at in their thought process.
Why is apathetic voting horseshit? Is horseshit just horseshit, or do you find it to come from a town or scum horse? Why should everyone only be using one vote? Why are you giving out votes to anyone with 0 votes left? I had planned to give away either blocks of 3 or blocks of 4 votes to people I strongly feel are town, but not to ANYONE, and not based on the number of votes they have left. How is having no votes a good criteria for who you want to give more control over the lynch to, instead of using a criteria like your townreads? what how much info are we gunna get when half the people cant vote on the lynch, and the other half have no say in the final decision. The lynch is left up to those 4 players, and since one of them is in the hot seat. He can use 9 votes to save himself. I guess playing as passive as you and not putting any reads on anyone to too late so you don't have to vote and can sheep and holding all your votes is your strategy. I guess thats cool >_>. Is apathetic voting just horseshit, or townie/scummy horseshit? You think everyone who hasn't voted much is scummy? Cuz that's probably the whole scumteam if so.
If you want info, why should everyone only use 1 vote? Wouldn't you get more from people choosing the number of votes they want to use?
And again, why are you choosing the criteria of "people with 0 votes" as those to give votes to this round?
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Giving your votes to other people is horrible. You either don't trust your judgement, in which case you have no business giving your votes away cuz you might be giving them up to mafia, or you do trust your judgement in which case you better use your votes yourself. Please stop with the nonsense.
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Also you should definitely use all the votes available to you in this last round if you care about town at all.
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@sandroba I thought you were getting drunk today and not posting?
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I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then
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On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote:
I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then
Because of sandroba's comments?
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On January 13 2012 17:11 sandroba wrote:
Also it's ridiculously easy to figure out my alignment not only because I suck as scum, but also because I hate it and usually can't keep up with the thread after a few days. So yeah, you don't have to worry about that because I'm thankfully town this game.
This is a quote from TL Mafia L. Sandroba rolled scum.
He's right. I think every game in which Sandroba rolled scum features long periods of afking into an early lynch.
This djodref is either very dumb or scum. You would never as town (and inteligent) feel that a person that is standing up to you against the majority trying to lynch would be scum. Prpl and mementos are prob scum.
What happened to ON? Previously you thought he was the best lynch:
On October 12 2012 05:17 sandroba wrote:
Look at the cases people posted, which is the strongest? Definetely the case on ON. How can you ever say that I'm not trying to get scum lynched or that my play has been uninspired? You can't.
Right now I'm thinking that this holiday was merely a convenient excuse.
And yeah I don't want to lynch ON for reasons I have already stated and mods have yelled at me for bringing up.
Sandroba x1
Not like my 1 vote even matters though.
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On October 14 2012 00:32 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 00:31 Mementoss wrote:
I will be putting all my votes on ON unless he returns then Because of sandroba's comments?
no because no one would co-operate anyways, and although I think sandroba's play has been scummy im not super sure. But if he flips town then we have ON who refuses to post or do anything, and its gunna be a bad time. Overall, I guess im happy with either lynch, lynching someone I have a bit of a scum read on, or lynching a complete lurker.
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On October 14 2012 00:33 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2012 17:11 sandroba wrote:
Also it's ridiculously easy to figure out my alignment not only because I suck as scum, but also because I hate it and usually can't keep up with the thread after a few days. So yeah, you don't have to worry about that because I'm thankfully town this game. This is a quote from TL Mafia L. Sandroba rolled scum. He's right. I think every game in which Sandroba rolled scum features long periods of afking into an early lynch. Show nested quote +This djodref is either very dumb or scum. You would never as town (and inteligent) feel that a person that is standing up to you against the majority trying to lynch would be scum. Prpl and mementos are prob scum. What happened to ON? Previously you thought he was the best lynch: Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:17 sandroba wrote:
Look at the cases people posted, which is the strongest? Definetely the case on ON. How can you ever say that I'm not trying to get scum lynched or that my play has been uninspired? You can't. Right now I'm thinking that this holiday was merely a convenient excuse. And yeah I don't want to lynch ON for reasons I have already stated and mods have yelled at me for bringing up. Sandroba x1 Not like my 1 vote even matters though.
kush your 1 vote matters to me man
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MOMENTOSS hypothetically ON could be replaced right? Wouldn't that solve the problem?
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On October 14 2012 00:53 kushm4sta wrote:
MEMENTOSS hypothetically ON could be replaced right? Wouldn't that solve the problem?
Yeah it would, but the hosts don't seem to keen on it so Im not sure.
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On October 14 2012 01:03 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 00:53 kushm4sta wrote:
MEMENTOSS hypothetically ON could be replaced right? Wouldn't that solve the problem? Yeah it would, but the hosts don't seem to keen on it so Im not sure.
Mods aren't keen on the discussion of it.
This is from the op.
Activity:
You must post in this thread regularly. If you fail to follow activity rules, you will be inactivity modkilled.
@mementoss+ Show Spoiler +
also rza should not be allowed to rap ever
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jesus austin I cannot tell for the life of me who you plan on voting for. can you make your current stance clear please?
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ebwop
On October 14 2012 01:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
jesus austin I cannot tell for the life of me tell who you plan on voting for. can you make your current stance clear please?
i need some fucking cigarettes
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why is it taking everyone so long to give input?
tbh:
D1 suspicions < other suspicions
sandroba as a town player > that other guy
therefore:
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On October 14 2012 01:58 thrawn2112 wrote:ebwop Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 01:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
jesus austin I cannot tell for the life of me tell who you plan on voting for. can you make your current stance clear please? i need some fucking cigarettes
My current stance is that the voting is being blown out of proportion, lol.
Nobody standing up for ON in the earlier rounds. Even a wee bit. That gives me a gut feeling that he's town. I would have expected SOME attempt to try and keep him from passing on. So I'm a wee bit townie on him.
Sandroba ... blech. I hate the idea of lynching more veteran players D1. Some of his comments this morning looked townie though, although some looked misguided. Like his stuff on how anyone who cares about town should be using all their votes...that says NOTHING. Anyone who cares about scum is probably using all THEIR votes too. I haven't played with him enough though to know whether he's super careful about choosing his words and what thoughts he puts into thread. He's making it sound like he doesn't allow the thread to see much of his thoughts/thought process, and if that's true, then throwaway statements like that are a little odd.
Between then two, I'm not STRONGLY scummy on either. I'm probably voting ON? IF he hangs on doing nearly nothing, it's difficult to get a read on him. Getting a read on a replacement player can sometimes be iffy, and in this case, we've had such a long first day that it's ... probably tougher? Instead of replacing in after 48 or 72 hours or whatever, replacement would come in 96 hours after this game started. I don't want to add a new player into the mix at that point, so unless I'm very convinced of Sandroba's scumminess, I'm dropping like...3 votes on ON or something.
You, thrawn, are welcome to three of my votes. As is kush, who is either town or is doing a great job of adopting a completely different style of play for this game. Plus, GZA > RZA. 3 of my votes are for each of you two to use, so long as, in the post in which you tell me how to use them, you give thread a scumread and a townread (and a tiny bit of reasoning) on someone who was safe after the first or second round.
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Honestly if we were using normal voting mechanics I'd consider suggesting a last minute lynch out of memtoss or maybe prplhz because the longer I think about it the less I like either of our options.
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These posts were the weird ones from sandroba
On October 14 2012 00:10 sandroba wrote:
Giving your votes to other people is horrible. You either don't trust your judgement, in which case you have no business giving your votes away cuz you might be giving them up to mafia, or you do trust your judgement in which case you better use your votes yourself. Please stop with the nonsense. I'm not sure how one trusts one's judgment when voting, but NOT when deciding who to gives votes to. I can understand the statement in terms of something like "urrbody who has 0 votes can get one of mine," but as long as there's reasoning and judgment behind who you give the votes to...then you're still trusting your judgment. I dunno, maybe this IS a dumb idea, but I kind of like it.
On October 14 2012 00:11 sandroba wrote:
Also you should definitely use all the votes available to you in this last round if you care about town at all.
This post is air. I'd think that those who DON'T care about town this game should also use all the votes available to them. If town and anti-town should be using all their votes, then ... there's nothing that means anything about whether or not someone uses all their votes.
I may be taking too much issue with these posts because I like the idea of giving away votes, but they strike me as either "I want to save my own skin, and I'm worried that you support me but will give away votes to those who don't" (null, either townsand or scumsand would want to not get lynched) or something else. Blerg. I don't fully know what to make of them, but for some reason they struck me as less reasoned than some of his other posts.
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On October 14 2012 02:16 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 01:58 thrawn2112 wrote:ebwop On October 14 2012 01:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
jesus austin I cannot tell for the life of me tell who you plan on voting for. can you make your current stance clear please? i need some fucking cigarettes My current stance is that the voting is being blown out of proportion, lol. Nobody standing up for ON in the earlier rounds. Even a wee bit. That gives me a gut feeling that he's town. I would have expected SOME attempt to try and keep him from passing on. So I'm a wee bit townie on him. Sandroba ... blech. I hate the idea of lynching more veteran players D1. Some of his comments this morning looked townie though, although some looked misguided. Like his stuff on how anyone who cares about town should be using all their votes...that says NOTHING. Anyone who cares about scum is probably using all THEIR votes too. I haven't played with him enough though to know whether he's super careful about choosing his words and what thoughts he puts into thread. He's making it sound like he doesn't allow the thread to see much of his thoughts/thought process, and if that's true, then throwaway statements like that are a little odd. Between then two, I'm not STRONGLY scummy on either. I'm probably voting ON? IF he hangs on doing nearly nothing, it's difficult to get a read on him. Getting a read on a replacement player can sometimes be iffy, and in this case, we've had such a long first day that it's ... probably tougher? Instead of replacing in after 48 or 72 hours or whatever, replacement would come in 96 hours after this game started. I don't want to add a new player into the mix at that point, so unless I'm very convinced of Sandroba's scumminess, I'm dropping like...3 votes on ON or something. You, thrawn, are welcome to three of my votes. As is kush, who is either town or is doing a great job of adopting a completely different style of play for this game. Plus, GZA > RZA. 3 of my votes are for each of you two to use, so long as, in the post in which you tell me how to use them, you give thread a scumread and a townread (and a tiny bit of reasoning) on someone who was safe after the first or second round.
THIS is what bugs me, your not strongly scummy on either YET you have 9 votes left? HMMM, I guess you shoulda used your votes to get who you thought was scum to the finals. You don't even give a shit.
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On October 14 2012 03:09 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2012 02:16 austinmcc wrote:On October 14 2012 01:58 thrawn2112 wrote:ebwop On October 14 2012 01:57 thrawn2112 wrote:
jesus austin I cannot tell for the life of me tell who you plan on voting for. can you make your current stance clear please? i need some fucking cigarettes My current stance is that the voting is being blown out of proportion, lol. Nobody standing up for ON in the earlier rounds. Even a wee bit. That gives me a gut feeling that he's town. I would have expected SOME attempt to try and keep him from passing on. So I'm a wee bit townie on him. Sandroba ... blech. I hate the idea of lynching more veteran players D1. Some of his comments this morning looked townie though, although some looked misguided. Like his stuff on how anyone who cares about town should be using all their votes...that says NOTHING. Anyone who cares about scum is probably using all THEIR votes too. I haven't played with him enough though to know whether he's super careful about choosing his words and what thoughts he puts into thread. He's making it sound like he doesn't allow the thread to see much of his thoughts/thought process, and if that's true, then throwaway statements like that are a little odd. Between then two, I'm not STRONGLY scummy on either. I'm probably voting ON? IF he hangs on doing nearly nothing, it's difficult to get a read on him. Getting a read on a replacement player can sometimes be iffy, and in this case, we've had such a long first day that it's ... probably tougher? Instead of replacing in after 48 or 72 hours or whatever, replacement would come in 96 hours after this game started. I don't want to add a new player into the mix at that point, so unless I'm very convinced of Sandroba's scumminess, I'm dropping like...3 votes on ON or something. You, thrawn, are welcome to three of my votes. As is kush, who is either town or is doing a great job of adopting a completely different style of play for this game. Plus, GZA > RZA. 3 of my votes are for each of you two to use, so long as, in the post in which you tell me how to use them, you give thread a scumread and a townread (and a tiny bit of reasoning) on someone who was safe after the first or second round. THIS is what bugs me, your not strongly scummy on either YET you have 9 votes left? HMMM, I guess you shoulda used your votes to get who you thought was scum to the finals. You don't even give a shit. Yes, I should have used my votes in a different way early on. Some of this is due to changing my mind on Djodref. Some is due to focusing on Aperture. Some is due to early laziness.
Do you actually believe I don't give a shit? Or do you only think that THIS particular thing points towards me giving a shit?
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