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EchelonTee
United States5249 Posts
My previous words on him. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
You and your hypothetical scumbuddies are hanging out in QT, discussing how to play out the matchups and how you want to vote and do scummy stuff and whatnot. The following questions come up, as to how each of you wants to do things. How do you respond? Do you guys make sure to sometimes be on opposite sides of a matchup? Or do you not care if 2 scum players vote together the entire way through D1? Say in round 1 or round 2 there's a matchup that you want to influence, one of your scumbuddies is neck and neck with a townie. Do you just vote that matchup? Or do you vote that matchup + 1 or 2 that you don't care about, in order to hide the vote you actually want to make in with some that don't make a difference to you? Is there any particular player you think is a likely D1 mislynch, just looking at player list and like...the first couple pages of the game. If so, who? | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5249 Posts
On October 13 2012 10:24 austinmcc wrote: + Show Spoiler + Mementoss. Pretend for a moment that you're Mementoss this game. (Or, if you don't have to pretend, please let us know). You and your hypothetical scumbuddies are hanging out in QT, discussing how to play out the matchups and how you want to vote and do scummy stuff and whatnot. The following questions come up, as to how each of you wants to do things. How do you respond? Do you guys make sure to sometimes be on opposite sides of a matchup? Or do you not care if 2 scum players vote together the entire way through D1? Say in round 1 or round 2 there's a matchup that you want to influence, one of your scumbuddies is neck and neck with a townie. Do you just vote that matchup? Or do you vote that matchup + 1 or 2 that you don't care about, in order to hide the vote you actually want to make in with some that don't make a difference to you? Is there any particular player you think is a likely D1 mislynch, just looking at player list and like...the first couple pages of the game. If so, who? ET, I'd like to see your answers to those questions as well. You had some setup talk at the beginning that I liked, but I'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the setup from the perspective of you playing as ET.[ I'm not interested in talking about this stuff. Scum play varies wildly from player to play. While good town play is very similar across the scum (you should catch scum), different scum players play differently. Most scum players would play safe and try and stay distant from their scumbuddies, but try and protect them lightly. I don't care about that at all. I bus, I soft defend, I hard defend, I do whatever if I think it'll let me win. The best scum players are unpredictable. If you want to ask me what is most likely for mafia to do, it should be pretty obvious, but that's not what I would do. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5249 Posts
UGH INB4 MOD KILL I JUST DID IT TO REFORMAT  | ||
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EchelonTee
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EchelonTee
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Editing: Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing is not allowed. You get one (1) warning for editing. After that, you will be modkilled. The integrity of the game rests on not editing posts. If you'd like to modify an opinion or fix a typo, reply to your post with a quote and use "EBWOP" to edit by way of post. No further discussion needed. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
sandroba x6 | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
What is so scummy about ON? Just his 2 ninja votes at the end of r1? Or his afking? Hypothetically if he does not post at all d1, rules state that he will be modkilled or replaced. Wouldn't that solve the afk issue? | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:45 EchelonTee wrote: EBWOP: I'm not interested in talking about this stuff. Scum play varies wildly from player to play. While good town play is very similar across the scum (you should catch scum), different scum players play differently. Most scum players would play safe and try and stay distant from their scumbuddies, but try and protect them lightly. I don't care about that at all. I bus, I soft defend, I hard defend, I do whatever if I think it'll let me win. The best scum players are unpredictable. If you want to ask me what is most likely for mafia to do, it should be pretty obvious, but that's not what I would do. I don't want to ask what is most likely for mafia to do, just yourself if you were/are mafia this game. Interested in your personal thought process and answers. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 13 2012 11:44 austinmcc wrote: ET. Pretend for a moment that you're ET this game. (Or, if you don't have to pretend, please let us know). You and your hypothetical scumbuddies are hanging out in QT, discussing how to play out the matchups and how you want to vote and do scummy stuff and whatnot. The following questions come up, as to how each of you wants to do things. How do you respond? Do you guys make sure to sometimes be on opposite sides of a matchup? Or do you not care if 2 scum players vote together the entire way through D1? Say in round 1 or round 2 there's a matchup that you want to influence, one of your scumbuddies is neck and neck with a townie. Do you just vote that matchup? Or do you vote that matchup + 1 or 2 that you don't care about, in order to hide the vote you actually want to make in with some that don't make a difference to you? Is there any particular player you think is a likely D1 mislynch, just looking at player list and like...the first couple pages of the game. If so, who? I do care and that's why I did write a post questioning your actions and the ones from Mementoss. On October 12 2012 18:06 da0ud wrote: Trying to get some reads/assocation of people from previous votes. 1) Only ET has been twice voting for someone he would face in the next round. Djo in the first round when he had a BYE and kush in second. If he was a scum, I would them believe Djo and kush are not. Because at first glance it doesnt seem logic to vote for your mate so that one of you for sure would advance to the next round. He is the only one who has ever voted on the next potential opponent. 2) on Mementoss : he seems to be throwing away votes on as many people as possible and of oppisite logic. Already voted for 4 people which is the most of all of us. First round he votes for Djo and kush to make them move to the next round on their respective matches. But when they move on he decides to now vote on none of them but even worse voting for their opponents in the matchups hence actually totally changing his mind on them and now backing them up. Should have voted again for them to follow his initial logic. 3) Austin looks too unconcerned after being saved on the first round, He hasn't voted anyone in the second round. Looks to me more like a scum who now hides to get us to forget about him. To me a townie, even saved should continue to be implicated in the votes in order to gather as much information as possible on other players. Please let me know your thoughts.... The only thing i had against you is that you voted in first round then got saved and then didn't really care/ participate/ scum hunt which would still be priority for a townie (even saved) I do actually like the way you address tactics than could have been put in place by mafia to influence vote. I did the same in looking for betting patterns, etc. But i think there is too few pieces of info available on the voting patterns... yet. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
who are you responding to | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I'm just waking up and I have a serious hangover right now. Reading the thread has made my head exploding even more... I didn't expect this at all. I was thinking that Hopeless was going to OMGus vote me and that I would end up in the final (that was another reason for me to spend all my votes at this time but I didn't want to say it at that time). @Hopeless Why are you doing this to me ? I'm going to lose my sanity sailing the dark seas of the WIFOM again... Seriously, if you are town, you are just confusing everybody with your "plan" I need more time to process everything. I'll be around for a while and I'll give my thoughts about today's lynch and hopefully more. | ||
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da0ud
Hong Kong252 Posts
On October 13 2012 12:11 thrawn2112 wrote: do0ud wtf are you talking about who are you responding to Looks pretty obvious I was talking to austin... | ||
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
I want him to flip so I definitively know if he is town or scum because it is going to bother me for a while. Last game I've been through a lot of WIFOM shit (thank you Kush by the way) and the result was me tunneling the town MVP for almost all game. I don't want this to happen again and I'll try to look for other players for a while. Hopeless explanations make me seriously doubting on my case against him (plus I've said myself that obvious scum is usually town, it might apply here again) but I cannot see him as town yet. Hopeless, I got my eyes on you <3 ! Concerning today's lynch, I don't have any more votes so I have basically no power to change anything. Yet I would like to use my words to convince you to lynch Sandroba over OriginalName. OriginalName I think everybody could agree that he is a total lurker. So let's look at the few things we have. His useless panic vote against is scummy as hell and his explanation for it was weak in my view because he calls me for a post I have made drunk and me backing off from this post later on. I was drunk and I've made a mistake at that time so it was natural for me to back off. But I understand it could be suspicious in another player eye so it could be a valid reason to vote me. Regarding his vote, I think a scum player would have avoided voting like this. And there it is, that's all we have from him ! I'm saying that it not enough to lynch him today. Sandroba Sandroba is also a lurker but he looks scummy enough in my eyes to deserve the lynch. I'm not familiar with his meta but I've been skimming through his filter in the C9++ game and I must say that it looks like night and day when you compare it to his actual filter. Also, his unexplained hunch for me is a scumtell. I've been looking bad enough (and from my first post apparently) to advance until the semis but he is one of two players to have a town read on me (hello prplhz!). Moreover, he didn't bother to address this point. Regarding his last post, I was also drunken yesterday, I'm having a big hangover now, most likely I'm going to be drunk tonight again but I'm still trying to invest myself in this game. I imagine he is that disinterested right now because he is scum. If I had votes right now, I would use them to vote Sandroba. Hence, I recommend you to lynch him. | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
Also from reading your filter I don't know what your top scumread is. So do you have a top scum read? (within the bracket or outside of it) | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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Djodref
France3332 Posts
On October 11 2012 06:23 prplhz wrote: About Djodref and da0ud I have a strong town read on Djodref right now pretty much because of his very first post. He thinks it looks easy for scum to avoid a lynch which isn't something that scum think. It's a 96 hour day1 and they're pretty much forced to give reads on everybody, no tunneling. I think that this looks hard for scum and scum must feel a lot worse off. This is the clearest town tell in anybody for me so far. In da0ud's first post: I think this looks like a classic scum jokey wobby post. Especially the bolded part. So I have been looking at his filter and I've discovered a lot of questions and short posts, but unfortunately not a lot of content. @prplhz I would really appreciate you sharing with us all the info you have gathered with your questions here and there. I wouldn't mind if it was a long and articulate post. I'm starting to wondering if you are active in your scumhunting or just pretending to be active  I also have been suspicious of HiroPro from the start because he was encouraging people to discuss about the lynch mechanics. I don't like the fact that I have been his top scumread because I know my alignment but I can understand that some of my posts look scummy and his reasons made some sense. But I really don't like the way is dropping me at all. On October 13 2012 10:19 HiroPro wrote: man. even for a checkin post, that was lame sandroba. I changed my mind on dodref. After reading his earlier game (especially the nonsense he wrote about debears), I do think he could have wrote a bad case like that as town. @HiroPro I might be a newbie and my case might be bad but I'm at least investing myself in this game. So I wouldn't mind you showing me how to make a good case because I'm not able to find any so far in your filter. I would even go as far as there is not so much content in your posts. Also, from what I understand, ON is on your scumlist, but I think we can safely assume that have more than one scum in this game. Who are your top scumreads now that you are dropping me ? | ||
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