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slOosh
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Biggest thing is stop saying "I wanna lynch player X what do you think?". There is no back up analysis, and it allows people to toss out names at random. You think someone is scum, back it up. Don't say "seems scummy maybe". It lets people sow seeds of suspicion and it makes mislynches more untraceable. Shady's vote makes no sense as VE pointed out. In fact the whole thing doesn't make sense, including how he has already started making connective tells on Kush based on Z-Boson. But it seems just as explainable by a combination of poor play / leftover emotions from TL-LVII. I'd wait to see what he can produce (case wise or whatnot) since arguing whether acting like a troll to incite a mod warning isn't conclusive to determining alignment. VE I don't see your issue with annul - or are you doing one of those reaction things because its leaning on the destructive side right now. | ||
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On October 01 2012 06:18 iamperfection wrote: Thats why i would like to lynch the nuke guy. come in to thread and says he wants to lynch someone and leaves. So do you think he is scum like i do? Well I've played with risk a couple times and he plays the more hands off approach as town. He takes his time with things and doesn't care what people think if he thinks he is right. At the same time he can be totally lazy so you have to wait for him to generate content then evaluate what he brings. Cf. PYP3, Poison Mini Mafia, Beauracracy and Dwarf Mini (town, scum town respective). So right now I'm null on him. What is your take on kush? Easy mislynch or newbie scum? | ||
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On October 01 2012 07:08 kushm4sta wrote: anul seems so angry for no reason. that's how I act when I'm mafia. Could you clarify on the "no reason" part? | ||
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Will read up on other candidates and give thoughts on them. | ||
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With a total lack of follow through after his troll antics, he has disrupted early day discussion and dropped off. Not lynching him today on the basis of a potential modkill is stupid - he could easily trade his life for hurting day 2 discussion as well and he might not even be lynched. The nature of the Node lynch is really strange. Reason enough to lean the former. ##Vote: Shady Sands | ||
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On October 02 2012 12:36 austinmcc wrote: Node lynch is "strange." Is Node himself scummy? Are Node's posts scummy? Node is scummy. I think what you found about his post was valid. However we can only lynch 1 at a time and I find Shady a better target for the reasons I stated. The strangeness of Node's lynch was that there was a disconnect between the push and the votes - you tossed out a bunch of names and his was just picked up. It's enough to sway me to Shady. | ||
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I had less than two hours to reread everything and determine where my vote should go. I wasn't going to waste it talking about people who probably won't get lynched. It's evident that this town suffered a day 1 of inactivity and scum were probably happy to go along with that. The one that stuck out most to me was Mattchew: The clearest thing in his filter is that he is happy to take no stances at all, and is not interested in getting a solid lynch. On September 30 2012 15:02 Mattchew wrote: i re-read shady's "trolling" and it seems extremely forced and thought out. this is either proof to his point of him trying to get warned or him being too nervous to troll casually because he is scum. Which amounts to "Shady could be town because of this, and scum because of this". The next time he posts follow up is On October 02 2012 01:07 Mattchew wrote: Shady said before the game, before he knew his alignment, that he was going to troll. I have yet to see a shady case about his posting after his "trollfest" (if there is I missed it). If we lynch someone for doing something so non-alignment telling we are bad and we should feel bad. If you are voting Shady I want your reasons for the vote beyond "he was trolling and thats anti-town herp derp" STOP VOTING SHADY SANDS WITH SHIT REASONING I was thinking that we should lynch Coag because he hasn't put in any effort after getting mad at Caller about his game. He got mad at Caller for not allowing him to play in a game and then joins this one and parks a vote on Shady with shitty ass reasoning. The thing holding me back on this is that this might actually be how Coag plays, and I dont think I have played with him in a real game that I remember. Austinmc hasn't contributed jack shit, which is very different from his usual productive town self Kingjames was extremely awkwardly wishy-washy with his attempt to call out keirathi. He talks about focusing on scum hunting but has spent almost all his time trying to defend and focusing on himself. His first post also reeks of scum trying to look tryhard townie. I want to a lot more from BC, his lack of contributions make me very nervous about him. ##vote kingjames01 This post shows how detached he is from thread. The context surrounding it is discussion centered around kushm4sta and kingjames01. There is no avalanche of dumb sheep votes on Shady, people are looking into other lynch candidates. There is no purpose other than opposing the Shady lynch without actually calling him town. The rest of his post he calls Coag scummy and then takes it back, calls austinmcc scummy without actually saying it, parroting other people about kingjames and calling out BC. On October 02 2012 08:21 Mattchew wrote: BC mind telling me why you think i am scum? also, I could get down with an austin lynch. he doesn't feel like he is hunting scum as much as he is hunting for an easy out to vote. I am willing to ##unvote for the meantime. I am caught up on the thread but don't actually understand some of the arguments. He says he is caught up on the thread, but doesn't understand the arguments. However, he makes absolutely no effort to understand. He doesn't ask questions, he doesn't apply pressure, nothing. He doesn't care about the lynch. The biggest thing is that he doesn't actually unvote but leaves his vote on kingjames the whole time On October 02 2012 13:14 BlackMamba24 wrote: Deadline Reached, Votes for Day 1 Done. Final Vote Count: kingjames01 (2): keirathi, It is clear cut that Mattchew is making sure that he isn't labeled a lurker with "contributions" when in reality he doesn't care about the lynch at all. He is Scum. | ||
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On October 03 2012 07:05 Mattchew wrote: Sloosh seems to be struggling to post, and seems like he is struggling to type out his thoughts. I think this is because he is scum. I was easy to make a case on because I played like shit day 1. He skews the truth in his case about me when he mentions my stop voting shady sands point. I was clearly saying this to the people that at that moment were voting shady which there were still a lot of at that time (in this thread and +2 to the voting thread). I was also not saying what alignment Shady was, I was just saying that at that time votes on him were stupid. Admitting poor play doesn't excuse it. You cherry picked my case on a tangential point, being that you don't have an actual stance on Shady despite slapping many hands from voting, and you aren't even addressing the main point, that you just didn't care about day 1 lynch. Who do you think tomorrow's lynch should be? | ||
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Mattchew still shows he has no intention of caring about anything. I've been waiting to see if he has a proper defense or any meaningful contribution but it seems like he is happy to lurk away. Annul is kush still your lynch of choice going into tomorrow? | ||
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Risen can I follow you up on this post? On October 02 2012 01:26 Risen wrote: To sum: I want to see how Shady flips because... 1) He's my top scum read (we'll see how kj responds, and a red Shady doesn't make him green at all) 2) It will tell me more about Z-Boson and ShiaoPi. More so the second part since it seems like you think kj is town. | ||
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Probably can't stay up for post so that's it for me for now. | ||
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##Vote: marvellosity Mementoss and Mattchew do you have actual questions for me or are you just gonna keep pointing out how I'm not as active as I usually am, and then go lurk? As for the VE suspicions, I don't see how being wrong is used as a strong indicator of alignment for him when basically everyone else made the same mistakes. Is that the case or did I miss something? | ||
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On October 04 2012 09:04 mkfuba07 wrote: @SloOsh What do you think about my post regarding VE (linked above)? I see it as a reason to see VE as scum that doesn't simply revolve around him being incorrect. Yea, I see your point. I guess it didn't stick out to me because VE is a very social player and he just says stuff all the time and I've learn to dismiss these kind of stuff. While his treatment of 60-75% scum is different from what I would do, I don't think it's a certain tell by itself. | ||
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On October 04 2012 04:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also, after looking through marv's filter and gazing at the people he was fine with lynching and those he defended / tried to suggest were bad options for lynches were Risk.nuke Kush Sharrant. Of these 3 I think it is highly likely that at least 1 is scum. Of the people he accused I think mattchew is most likely to flip red as well. Like, I don't understand how he picked the pool (people marv was fine with lynching and defended from lynching seems to cover the whole pool) and saying that at least 1 is scum seems so prone to a string of mislynches (lynch A, flips town, oh B and C must be more likely to be scum). I'm agreeing with the mattchew read though and can understand the players he picked objectively, but yea it's scary. Anyone you want to talk about? | ||
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