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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:53 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Could you expand on what information you expect to gain from Xatalos flipping red? For instance, xatalos has been a huge defender of drazzak (huge being a relative term since his contribution has been quite limited). If xatalos flips I have a huge argument prepared for his connection to drazzak which I have been saving since it is worthless unless he's scum. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On September 07 2012 03:53 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Yeah, that's a good observation. I still have no idea what to make of the motivations behind that though. Both townies and scums should be motivated to defend themselves. That's what Xatalos has going for him and why I lean towards a Kville vote atm. Xatalos seems interested in the game and at least it seems like he wants to contribute. And he did contribute quite a good amount at the start of the game, during the weekend. So keeping him for another day there's good chance we'll be seeing more posts over the weekend. I agree lynching Kville gives us very limited information, we just get rid of player who doesn't contribute. The question is what we get out of lynching Xatalos. One thing seems pretty sure, if Xatalos flips red, it clears Kville. Otherwise, why would Xatalos promote vig killing Kville? However, if Kville flips red, it seems highly unlikely Xatalos is scum. Xatalos has more posts and votes too analyze if he flips red, but that's just because Kville contributes NOTHING. Not a great reason to keep him around. Could you expand on what information you expect to gain from Xatalos flipping red? I wouldnt count out bussing attempts at all with Kville flipping red. Actually, should he flip red, it almost seems like it was on purpose to sacrifice him. If I was mafia I doubt I would get into a defending position of Kville with his behaviour, that would seem very risky. Also, Xatalos flipping green is the worst thing which can happen atm. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:11 Kreb wrote: Also, Xatalos flipping green is the worst thing which can happen atm. Ok that is a pretty good point. I will probably switch to kville. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
mods can we get a vote count? | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:07 KillingTime wrote: If it is between Kville and Xatalos - I would rather lynch Kville at the moment. Xatalos has atleast got a semi-plausible excuse for why he is inactive and has said he could be more active at the weekend - his play to me seems somewhat consistent with someone who hasn't got enough time to play 100%. Kville has twice come into the thread at the last minute offering a weak defence and trying to deflect a lynch, as kreb wrote it has been clear for 48h that he might be lynched today and he has done nothing to defend himself - yet he pops up again just like on d1 with an attempt to deflect the lynch away from himself. Of the two I think he is a better bet. who said I was trying to defend? and I wasnt trying to deflect anything during d1,hell I voted my self for lynch d1. your on my radar now, claiming that I was trying to defend and deflect on d1, when obviously I was not. Now it just looks your forcing a lynch on me with false info. Thanks for giving me another filter to read. Does any one have any full reads on killing? | ||
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KillingTime
France101 Posts
It says I may vote for my self. Correct? I am making a statement. If you wanna have a vote from me today then it will be the same as voting for myself. becuase eitjer way we are going to losea town today. Is pretty much my definition of a weak defence - you were obviously not going to propose another target as you had said that you were not in favour of a D1 lynch - but you knew everyone else disagreed with this and that if you were not lynched then someone else would be. | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:09 kushm4sta wrote: I will switch vote to kville if that's the consensus...im just really scared of him flipping green, and I think he probably will. I will flip green. If your not 100 percent then you shouldn't sheep to a vote. Mafia loves a good sheep. | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:35 KillingTime wrote: Voting for yourself with the reason: Is pretty much my definition of a weak defence - you were obviously not going to propose another target as you had said that you were not in favour of a D1 lynch - but you knew everyone else disagreed with this and that if you were not lynched then someone else would be. Yeah becuase if you were going to vote for a town randomly than it be the same as voting for me. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
I try to make sense of you, but I have no idea what you're doing. | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:48 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Kville, if you're townie, do you really think your way of posting is pro-town? If so, why? I try to make sense of you, but I have no idea what you're doing. Take my way of posting however you want. I dont want to post false information on some one to get a lynch and seemlike a townie, thats a scums job. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:08 kushm4sta wrote: For instance, xatalos has been a huge defender of drazzak (huge being a relative term since his contribution has been quite limited). If xatalos flips I have a huge argument prepared for his connection to drazzak which I have been saving since it is worthless unless he's scum. Yeah, that's a connection, but far from a sure thing. He made a d1 defense of drazak that was very similar to the one Kreb made d2: + Show Spoiler + On September 04 2012 00:05 Xatalos wrote: I also don't think drazak is Mafia. The typical reaction for pressured Mafia is to get angry, aggressive or desperate, but in my eyes, he has tried to be genuinely helpful - giving away a lot of unnecessary information in case he actually was Mafia. The somewhat frustrated tone in his posts also points more to town than Mafia. On September 06 2012 09:42 Kreb wrote: The key thing to me is this: That really had me thinking. Let me explain. That little phrase expresses the feeling of guilt. First of all, there is absolutely no reason for a mafia to feel genuine guilt at this point. He is being attack from one front (thrawn) and then has his defense kind of destroyed from another front (me). What is the feeling you get as mafia then? Desperation? Maybe. Resignation? Maybe. Anger? Maybe. Guilt? Hell no. For this to be a mafia-move, it has to be a planted feeling. A purposedly planted feeling to fool us. And by this I'm not implying a three-way conspiracy or that it's a great read, just saying it's a resonable read to make. | ||
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
On September 07 2012 04:55 Kville wrote: Take my way of posting however you want. I dont want to post false information on some one to get a lynch and seemlike a townie, thats a scums job. I'm going to bed in one hour and I'm leaning towards voting on you because you don't even seem to try to contribute. Can you give me any reasons for why it would be beneficial for us to keep you? | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
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BioSC
United States636 Posts
imCasey (0) - kville (5) - kreb, Stutters695, Xatalos, kushm4sta, killingtime Stutters695 (0) - killingtime (1) - JacobStrangelove Xatalos (2) - imcasey, Not Voting: Drazak, Sonic Death Monkey. A little less than 5 hours remain in the cycle. Currently, kville is set to be lynched! Please let me and Kitaman know if you notice a mistake | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
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Sonic Death Monkey
Sweden991 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
if you are town this is why you dont play like how you are playing... town has to waste a lynch on you now | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
On September 07 2012 05:30 Sonic Death Monkey wrote: Ok, I'm putting my vote on Kville. Xatalos got the thread started by throwing out those questions d1. It helped getting the discussion past the "do we lynch lurkers" and "what about dem lists" part, which is generally pro-town. I have no idea what his motivation was though, since he disappeared quickly and didn't return until EOD (his military service can be a legitimate excuse or a convenient circumstance). At this point it's a vote against Kville more than it's a vote for Xatalos. I'd rather have a player left who seems to interested in playing the game and contribute than someone who doesn't. Very well goodluck my few neighbors. Hopefully your vote is for a good cause and made with a positive mind. | ||
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Kville
United States173 Posts
On September 07 2012 05:36 kushm4sta wrote: @kville if you are town this is why you dont play like how you are playing... town has to waste a lynch on you now Uhm I'm not wasting anything if you know this is a waste lynch then don't lynch this is an easy lynch scum is wanting to push through becuase of town like you. You guys are making this lynch wasteful not me. You even said yourselves that xatalos would prove more than I. So why not make todays lynch useful? Why are you killing off a townie like this for scum? | ||
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