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On August 29 2012 03:13 Shady Sands wrote:


So you've got a scum read on DJ then?

On August 29 2012 03:28 Chezinu wrote:
my list:

1.) marvellosity
2.) talismania
3.) Lvdr
8.) Djagulingu
10.) Kville
11.) Miltonkram

so far I think almost everyone is comfortable saying bluelight is town? Add in that I believe shady is innocent along with iamperfection and you get the above list. So now, let everyone highlight 3 names on that list that they think are mafia like this:

1.) marvellosity
2.) talismania
3.) Lvdr
8.) Djagulingu
10.) Kville
11.) Miltonkram

On August 29 2012 03:50 talismania wrote:


I had one before and still do. I was hoping to get some reaction from him before jumping down his throat or anything though.

On August 29 2012 03:56 Shady Sands wrote:


Why do you have a town read on IamP?

On August 29 2012 03:50 talismania wrote:


I had one before and still do. I was hoping to get some reaction from him before jumping down his throat or anything though.

On August 29 2012 04:18 Shady Sands wrote:


Got it.

Alright town it's getting close to that 24 hour deadline now. I'd like everyone to make cases on one or two people and post them before Midnight EDT (sometime in the next nine hours.)

Lurkers will get priority on any lynch/vigi lists I draw up. Move it.

On August 29 2012 05:24 Djagulingu wrote:

Unlucky for all of us though, I was outside with a friend, playing volleyballs and shit. The actual trap was to see who is trying to benefit the most from a possible mislynch. Planned target was Lvdr. Like I said before, if he flipped scum, we would celebrate, if not, the actual plan commences: Find the people who most benefited from it, who most supported it with providing the least amount of info for that, compare the lynch on Lvdr with the lynch on Obvious.

After posting my actual plan and my prime suspect, resulting to shit and shit, I now had 1.5x more evidence than I actually intended for, against Chezinu.

The only reason I chose Lvdr to be the "bait" was because he was my top scum read at the end of day 1, but he was still 60-40 tops. I needed to have anything for both of that 60 AND the 40, 40% is too high to be neglected.


OK Here are my 2 cents and 2 cases:

1- Chezinu: Sorry to say but he's bandwagoning for 2 days of game time without providing reasons. He bandwagoned on Obvious, then Lvdr, then me. After bandwagoning on me on D2, I'm only 8th in his list in D3. Some things don't make sense here.

2- IamPerfection: Furiously defending Chezinu without telling us reasons why we should also see him as a townie, attacking into me for what he sees as a scum slip, which is OK. What is not OK though is that he explains no reasons why he thinks that Chezinu is a townie, but he still defends him. I don't say that he has no reasons to defend Chezinu, on the contrary, he has plenty of them.

You get 2, you get 1 free:

3- Talismania: After explaining my thought process like 5 times or something like that, there have been 3 people criticizing me: Chezinu, iamperfection and Talismania. No more, no less. Spent entire day 2 lurking, then comes in to vote for me. Provides his reasons after a night and half a day in game time, which are weak considering how many times I've explained my thought process.

On August 12 2012 08:09 GMarshal wrote:
Special Signup rule: Wisdom of the Crowds: If you do not wish to play with a player for any reason, PM me, if I receive enough votes against a player (five or more) then he or she will not be allowed to play in this game. Your vote against a player will be held in the strictest confidence. You *must* be signed up to vote against someone.

Player List

1.) marvellosity
2.) talismania
3.) Lvdr
4.) Bluelightz
5.) Obvious.660 (Vanilla Townie) - lynched day 1
6.) iamperfection
7.) Shady Sands
8.) Djagulingu
9.) Palmar the Glorious Revolutionary (Vanilla Townie) - Killed night 1
10.) Kville
11.) VisceraEyes replaced by Miltonkram
12.) Chezinu

Filter List

1.) marvellosity
2.) talismania
3.) Lvdr
4.) Bluelightz
5.) Obvious.660
6.) iamperfection
7.) Shady Sands
8.) Djagulingu
9.) Palmar
10.) Kville
11.) VisceraEyes / Miltonkram
12.) Chezinu

Replacements

1.)
2.)
3.)
4.)
5.)

3/3 Monarchists remain
?/? Disguised Royal(s)
?/? Monarchist Thug(s)
?/? Departmental Investigator(s)
?/? Devoted Clergy
?/? Unhinged Noble(s)

9/9 Revolutionaries remain
?/? Glorious Revolutionary(ies)!
?/? People's Medic(s)
?/? Committee Head(s)
?/? Revolutionary Justice!(s)
?/? Militant Revolutionary(s)
?/? Militant Revolutionary(s)
?/? Royal Blood

On August 29 2012 05:36 Chezinu wrote:


8th in what list?

On August 27 2012 06:45 Djagulingu wrote:
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu.

On August 29 2012 05:24 Djagulingu wrote:

Sorry to say but he's bandwagoning for 2 days of game time without providing reasons. He bandwagoned on Obvious, then Lvdr, then me. After bandwagoning on me on D2, I'm only 8th in his list in D3. Some things don't make sense here.

On August 29 2012 06:01 Chezinu wrote:


Read my filter. If you really want reasons so bad, I will tell you. Palmar is known to be a great player as well as VE. They were really the only two people I focused on during day 1. If any one was going to get lynched, it was suspects chosen by one of the two. We end up trying to lynch lvdr first. He was one of my first suspects. Then I saw VE defending him and accused VE. Palmar comes into the thread suspecting obvious. Knowing Palmar had a talent of finding scum I voted obvious along with him. I had suspicions at the time that mafia was trying to get a no lynch because the votes were so spread out. So, I tried to get people to consolidate their vote. No one was voting obvious, so I think I might have switch to lvdr after that - I don't fully recall, you can check if you want. I know I was busy in RL at the time and disappeared for a while. When I came back somehow everyone was voting bluelight - I don't recall the reason. To aviod a no lynch, I jumped on board. Then blue was acting as if he was already dead. I remember writing in the thread that I thought it wasn't insta lynch - which I ended up being right. Blue has an ephany and realizes that he wasn't dead and posts a document calling almost everyone town. It was funny and we all laughed. Then we realized that mafia would never let one of their own members do something so foolish. So we decided to switch after the realization that everyone was actively lurking (we could see how many people viewed the document). So we jumped on to Palmar's suspect, Obvious. Cause Palmar had the best chance of catching scum. Unfortunately, obvious was town. Then mafia killed Palmar, who was the most towniest of all of us. It reminded me of when WBG died in my last game (however this reference is meaningless this game cause VE is no longer playing and no one will get my references), Now for Day 2...day 2 is kind of a blurr to me. I do remember voting lvdr to finally try to get him to flip. I come back at the end of the day and no one was voting for lvdr. However there was 3 votes on you (Dj), two of which were Iamperfection and Shady. Two people I trust to be town - they both have defended me. Mafia would never defend a troll like me. Most mafia would actually do the opposite and try and get me lynched. From experience, I am inclined to trust them. There happy, I responded to you!

On August 29 2012 06:04 Shady Sands wrote:

Holy crap the troll actually responded decently.

On August 29 2012 05:47 talismania wrote:
ok dj I understand what you're trying to say but it doesn't hang together.

This is the post that you said later was intended half as bait:



Your claimed trap was to push a lynch on lvdr, who you supposedly think might be scum. if he is, great, if he isn't maybe you can catch people bandwagoning. So far... ok. But at the time you made that post, you already had two people voting behind you. So the actual trap part wasn't this post, it was the part where you voted lvdr. This doesn't contribute to the supposed trap. Instead it sounds like what it probably is: lynch lvdr, if he flips town, lynch chez. In essence, justifying two days of votes at once, which smells like scum. That isn't bait for anything, and calling it that is a clumsy way to recast your actions.

On August 28 2012 23:43 Djagulingu wrote:

I'm surprised that this is not a newbie game but a normal. Here we go again:

1- I voted on my biggest scum read which was Lvdr, explained why I was doing that.
2- But Lvdr was still 60% scum, tops. There was nobody higher in the ranks though. So if he flips town, I needed something to find who the real scumbags are.
3- Chezinu voted for Lvdr as well, no explanation though. Filter check -> no explanation, no making cases, no explanation of his vote on day 1 either.
4- I called him out.
5- I realized that it was a mistake irl, didn't share it this time though, slept before the deadline, accidentally got myself lynched.
6- Turns out that my "mistake" is not a mistake because then, I see Chezinu bandwagoned on me too. End of D2, all of chezinu's votes were bandwagons on townies (at least 2/3 were), no explanations on votings, no making cases himself, no nothing pro-town.
7- Here I am, with my suspects and shit.