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EBWOP: Almost lynched. I'm still alive, at least for this particular day.
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marvelosity is smarter than me.
## unvote
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On August 28 2012 23:44 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 23:25 iamperfection wrote:
@ Marvelosity
So you think accosiative cases are bad but accept Djagulingu explanation? Can you please enlighten us on that.
I read it as bull shit. His whole theory hinges on voting trends which makes no sense to me. Mafia have the information advantage they can influence how they look by where they vote. His point was that is Lvdr was town, Chez has simply been wagoning from townie to townie with little explanation. What is there to dispute here? Oh? He thinks Lvdr was town? You don't say.. as Said by DJ:
"is" was clearly a syntax typo for "if", otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense. Get rid of your confirmation bias please.
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On August 28 2012 12:43 Shady Sands wrote:
A couple possibilities with the Daypost:
1) Scum did not use their KP.
2) Scum used their KP but JK jailed a scum.
3) Scum used their KP but JK jailed their target.
4) Scum used their KP but medic healed the target.
Btw, another possibility here:
Scum may accidentally have hit a vet.
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On August 28 2012 23:46 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 23:44 Kville wrote:On August 28 2012 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 23:25 iamperfection wrote:
@ Marvelosity
So you think accosiative cases are bad but accept Djagulingu explanation? Can you please enlighten us on that.
I read it as bull shit. His whole theory hinges on voting trends which makes no sense to me. Mafia have the information advantage they can influence how they look by where they vote. His point was that is Lvdr was town, Chez has simply been wagoning from townie to townie with little explanation. What is there to dispute here? Oh? He thinks Lvdr was town? You don't say.. as Said by DJ: ##Vote: Lvdr
Nothing about him makes me think that he's a townie. "is" was clearly a syntax typo for "if", otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense. Get rid of your confirmation bias please.
So if lvdr was town then doesn't that make it seem like DJ is voting to lynch a townie as well?
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On August 28 2012 23:49 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 23:46 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 23:44 Kville wrote:On August 28 2012 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 23:25 iamperfection wrote:
@ Marvelosity
So you think accosiative cases are bad but accept Djagulingu explanation? Can you please enlighten us on that.
I read it as bull shit. His whole theory hinges on voting trends which makes no sense to me. Mafia have the information advantage they can influence how they look by where they vote. His point was that is Lvdr was town, Chez has simply been wagoning from townie to townie with little explanation. What is there to dispute here? Oh? He thinks Lvdr was town? You don't say.. as Said by DJ: ##Vote: Lvdr
Nothing about him makes me think that he's a townie. "is" was clearly a syntax typo for "if", otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense. Get rid of your confirmation bias please. So if lvdr was town then doesn't that make it seem like DJ is voting to lynch a townie as well?
If you don't read the thread, I will rip your head off.
The original "scumslip" everyone jumped on was where DJ-lingu said (paraphrasing) - "if Lvdr is scum, yay! If Lvdr flips town, Chez is probably scum" - the explanation for which was that Chez would have been wagoning from townie to townie with no explanation.
WHY IS THIS SO HARD FOR YOU
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On August 28 2012 23:49 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 23:46 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 23:44 Kville wrote:On August 28 2012 23:29 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 23:25 iamperfection wrote:
@ Marvelosity
So you think accosiative cases are bad but accept Djagulingu explanation? Can you please enlighten us on that.
I read it as bull shit. His whole theory hinges on voting trends which makes no sense to me. Mafia have the information advantage they can influence how they look by where they vote. His point was that is Lvdr was town, Chez has simply been wagoning from townie to townie with little explanation. What is there to dispute here? Oh? He thinks Lvdr was town? You don't say.. as Said by DJ: ##Vote: Lvdr
Nothing about him makes me think that he's a townie. "is" was clearly a syntax typo for "if", otherwise the sentence doesn't make sense. Get rid of your confirmation bias please. So if lvdr was town then doesn't that make it seem like DJ is voting to lynch a townie as well?
You're sounding like my vote is enough to commence a majority lynch. What about the other (at least) 6 people who vote with me? The ones who make similar explanations to mine? The ones who bandwagon? That's what you're missing for the entire time.
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Also, Lvdr has been completely absent for 40+ hours.
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IamP, what's your read on Chez? Not DJ or anyone else, just Chez.
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On August 29 2012 00:36 Shady Sands wrote:
IamP, what's your read on Chez? Not DJ or anyone else, just Chez.
He is a troll so I dont know.
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ok I'm here and have some time what is going on in this game.
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wow there were only like 5 pages all weekend that's crazy. I thought I missed a ton.
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On August 29 2012 00:40 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 00:36 Shady Sands wrote:
IamP, what's your read on Chez? Not DJ or anyone else, just Chez. He is a troll so I dont know.
That's it?
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On August 27 2012 14:46 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:35 iamperfection wrote:On August 27 2012 06:45 Djagulingu wrote:
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu. ## unvote
## vote DjagulinguExplain faster. It was half bait half serious. All Chezinu did in day 1 was to look active and bandwagon Obv down. Then, he was also bandwagoning Lvdr until I called him out. Then he switches his vote on me, again in a bandwagoning fashion, creating an NL. Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 08:40 Shady Sands wrote:On August 27 2012 06:45 Djagulingu wrote:
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu. Seconded. Explain faster. Also, now that I think about it, explain this too: On August 24 2012 03:10 Djagulingu wrote:On August 23 2012 20:07 Palmar wrote:
Alright this is the lynch I want
##Vote Obvious
For reasons outlined in my post.
tl;dr version:
1. Posts generic stuff (discussing lurker lynches and such)
2. Spends an absurd amount of time obsessing about my random lynch idea
3. His only attempt at scumhunting is basically rehashing what people already said about Kville
4. Wants to lynch me on something that's a null-tell, without any attempt at further analysing my play.
Please go along with this guys. Well, at least I was right about what Palmar was trying to achieve with random-lynch bullshit. He's picking off the guys who got overly obsessed with it. While liking his read on Obvious, I'm also reading something stupid from Lvdr. He basically defended Shady for the whole day, doing his job for him, which brought 3 options in my mind: 1- Lvdr is a scumbag defending his fellow scumbag 2- Lvdr is a scumbag defending Shady to make him look like a scumbag, after seeing people thinking that Shady is a scumbag. 3- Lvdr is a townie and trying to defend someone who he sees as a townie. Then I see this: On August 23 2012 20:37 Shady Sands wrote:
back in thread. Why is everyone dropping the focus on Lvdr right now when we had him cold yesterday? and think. Think about the reason why would one of the 2 scumbags defend the other while getting bussed by the scumbag he's defending. This kicks the option 1 out of the window and brings another option in its place: 4- Shady is a scumbag trying to pick on controversial townies one by one, trying to create wagons for them. This eliminates option 3 in my mind. Right now, all I know is they both can't be townies. Checking both filters, I see that Shady is reading the thread, producing cases, participating the scumhunt, trying to be helpful at the very least. His attention is pretty scattered though. On the other hand, I look at Lovedoc and see that all he ever posts is some fluff showing no intention to participate in scumhunting, microscopic to no attempt on reading players and sharing his leads, almost like he doesn't even need to read other guys in the thread. All I know is; scum does not have to read people because they know everything, town on the other hand has to. ##Unvote
##Vote: Lvdr Here you say that Lvdr and I can't both be townies. So if Lvdr flips scum, then shouldn't you be suspecting me, too? Back in day 1, when we literally had little to no information, that's what I thought. If Lvdr flips scum, I would pretty much confirm that you are a townie. But, seeing how Lvdr is suspicious, you could have been a scumbag trying to bandwagon him down into a mislynch in day 1 knowing that he's a townie. So yes, if Lvdr flipped a scumbag, I wouldn't suspect you. After all, a day1 bus play is too balls-to-the-wall to execute.
Sorry still sorting through things from the past couple days.
DJ what do you mean by "half-bait"? What were you trying to bait with that post? Like, did you intend for that post to be a little trap of some sort, and if so how would that work?
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On August 28 2012 02:59 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 02:42 Shady Sands wrote:On August 28 2012 02:14 Djagulingu wrote:On August 28 2012 01:19 Shady Sands wrote:On August 27 2012 21:28 Djagulingu wrote:On August 27 2012 21:11 Kville wrote:This is what makes you suspicious: On August 27 2012 07:07 Shady Sands wrote:On August 27 2012 06:45 Djagulingu wrote:
Lvdr lynch will give a big time info to us. If he flips scum, we're good. If he is townie, then we have all the reasons to suspect Chezinu. Please explain. If lvdr were to flip town then chezinu must be scum? But why? .......and what would happen if chezinu were to flip town as well? Your just making us vote town for scum. This is a pure scum play. Eliminating town after town. The lynch is between lvdr and talis, no-one else is going to get the votes.so whoever is on other wagons should reconsider asap. Or if they think both are town, say so now Also marv needs to explain this, why only consider these two? and you werent even here for the rest of the night, so even if we were to give you an explaination it would have been null. The 'reconsideration' wasn't even valid and was just written to display a town feel to the post. Like I said, all Chezinu has done for 2 days of game time is to join bandwagons while not making cases and participating discussions, which is also scum play. Day 1: He joins obvious bandwagon first, then unvotes, then joins back in. Day 2: I start by voting Lvdr, he follows after me; after I call him out and start getting bandwagoned, he joins my bandwagon. He at the very least has to provide reasons why he bandwagoned onto the people who he bandwagoned. Lvdr flipping town thus would 100% guarantee Chezinu being a scumbag who bandwagons townies down, Lvdr flipping scum would create confusions about him (whether he's a townie or a scum bussing Lvdr). In both cases, we would guarantee finding a scum by Lvdr lynch on day 2. THAT is my explanation about Chezinu. Lvdr was just my top scum read (or was he?). He was just posting scummy and also voting scummy. But now he's only #4 in my list though. Talis, iamperfection and Chezinu are above him. Why are you agreeing with Talis and iamperfection being more scummy than Chez now? What makes you think so? I put them in no particular order. I just think that this is the scum team. My best lynch candidate is Chezinu though, especially after seeing him bandwagon every single lynch candidate. On August 28 2012 01:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2012 00:59 Djagulingu wrote:On August 28 2012 00:57 iamperfection wrote:On August 28 2012 00:49 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2012 00:44 iamperfection wrote:
So you didnt see Djagulingu post from your phone? it didnt strike you as odd at all? both kvill and shady asked for explanation just before you posted your comment.
In fact you havent commented on Djagulingu comment at all what do you think of it? All you said was that its a possible slip what is it in your view? Djagalang's explanation is here on this page, if you care to read it. My view is that a bunch of inexperienced townies leapt on a comment that wasn't a scumslip and started a bizarre wagon based off of it. Did the comment need explaining? Yes. Did the comment merit a bandwagon with hardly any time left in the day? Certainly not. So are you buying his explanation? Buying or not buying, he's explaining his reasons. Why don't you try and explain your reasons why you're buying/not buying my explanation? Why do you find it necessary to make a trap? Is it impossible for a (town) chezinu to vote for a (town) Lvdr? It is not impossible for town Chezinu to misvote, I voted for Lvdr too, risking a misvote, but I had a plan with it. Either Chezinu is a sheep and doesn't have any plans whatsoever or he was bandwagoning Lvdr intentionally. The way he bandwagoned the town Obv and town me also supports my claims of Chezinu being a scumbag. The trap part wasn't intentional though, I accidentally trapped him and guess what. It is working. It is working damn so well. It pulled 3 in the price of 1. You, Chezinu and Talismania. All people who are not named iamperfection, Chezinu or Talismania; just look at the bandwagoning patterns of these guys. See how they bandwagoned into Obvious, see how some tried to bandwagon into Lvdr, see how they tried to bandwagon into me. Bluelightz dude, you're the MVP of this game, for last minute lynching Obvious. This post doesn't make sense. It's a WIFOM mindbomb. Dissecting, hold on. WIFOM Mindbomb? Well, I can agree with the mindbomb part but it is hardly wifom. Let me clear the process for you: 1- I was really thinking that Lvdr is a scumbag 2- I voted for him 3- I saw Chezinu voting for him, he had no reasons unlike me. Horrible or not, at least I had my reasons. 4- I looked at Chezinu's voting history. 5- I saw that Chezinu bandwagoned for Obvious as well, with no reason on him either. 6- I posted that thing, which got me bandwagoned and almost lynched. 7- I saw Chezinu bandwagoning on me too, again with no reason. Up until step 3, I was just trying to get a scumbag lynched. In step 3, I saw the opportunity. Up until step 6, my plan was the following: 1- OK, let's lynch Lovedoc. If he flips scum, we got one. 2- If he flips town, people who bandwagoned for Obvious and Lovedoc are scumbags. At the step 6 though, a slight change in the plans happened, VERY accidentally. 2nd voting evidence was now ME instead of Lovedoc and we had a NL instead of a Lvdr lynch. But at the end of step 7, I now have 3 voting evidences instead of 2, thanks to Chezinu bandwagoning both me AND Lvdr.
Oh ok I guess this is the meaning behind half-bait. So it wasn't really a bait in the first place, it was a bait after the fact.
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No response?
I don't think I'm reading this wrong. dj claimed after being asked to explain the post that apparently got him in trouble that he partly intended for it to be part of a trap (hence, "bait"). But I don't know what the actual intended trap was, except that he claims later that the same post accidentally allowed him to detect bandwagonners since it created a bandwagon on him. None of it makes sense. I understand looking at people who bandwagon. But I don't understand how that post is possibly "baiting" a bandwagon if the person he was interested in (Chez) was already on that wagon.
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On August 29 2012 02:48 talismania wrote:
No response?
I don't think I'm reading this wrong. dj claimed after being asked to explain the post that apparently got him in trouble that he partly intended for it to be part of a trap (hence, "bait"). But I don't know what the actual intended trap was, except that he claims later that the same post accidentally allowed him to detect bandwagonners since it created a bandwagon on him. None of it makes sense. I understand looking at people who bandwagon. But I don't understand how that post is possibly "baiting" a bandwagon if the person he was interested in (Chez) was already on that wagon.
So you've got a scum read on DJ then?
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my list:
1.) marvellosity
2.) talismania
3.) Lvdr
8.) Djagulingu
10.) Kville
11.) Miltonkram
so far I think almost everyone is comfortable saying bluelight is town? Add in that I believe shady is innocent along with iamperfection and you get the above list. So now, let everyone highlight 3 names on that list that they think are mafia like this:
1.) marvellosity
2.) talismania
3.) Lvdr
8.) Djagulingu
10.) Kville
11.) Miltonkram
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