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No VE, I have no idea whom you suspect a the moment. In fact, your filter is about as contentless as I've ever seen it be. You're posting a lot, which generally means you're town, but the content is absolutely terrible at the moment.
The one coherent post you've made so far is an idea you threw out against Obvious, which kind of makes sense.
On August 22 2012 07:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 07:47 Obvious.660 wrote:On August 22 2012 07:42 Shady Sands wrote:On August 22 2012 07:39 Obvious.660 wrote:
Lurkers absolutely suck past day 2, so I agree that lurker lynches are a good fallback option. I'm also wary of easy lynches too. My experience with TL mafia has been that if it's too easy it's probably too good to be true. We're not even past 24 hours yet though so let's not get too ahead of ourselves by focusing on lurkers just yet.
Also, I agree with Shady that the LoveDoctor doesn't smell right. His olfactory glands are probably on his elbows. This doesn't smell right either. First you say: Lurker lynches good backup Then you say: Easy lynches bad Then you say: Not good to do lurker lynches just yet. Then you make a non-sequitur attempt at humor. So basically if we shouldn't go for lurker lynches, and we shouldn't call out the guy who is obviously scummy, then what, exactly, should we be doing? I said we shouldn't focus on lurkers for the first 24 hours, so we can talk about, you know, things that don't involve lurkers that might get us somewhere, y'feelme? You don't have to like my humor, either mang. I'm suspicious of you for not tunneling the shit out of anyone yet. Where's the crazy outspoken town Shady Sands I've witnessed? Ooohhh...stick. Because people aren't scummily lurking until halfway through the day, right? Like, they could just not be around or not be aware of the game yet? I see what you're getting at. So what kind of thread-relevant stuff not related to lurkers do you suggest we discuss? You didn't seem interested in discussing the prospect of Palmar scum...my vote and Shady's vote has been on him for the majority of the game now I think - and while you vehemently disagreed with Palmar's random-lynching idea, you didn't seem to consider that such an anti-town idea could have come from scum. At least, if you did you didn't mention it in-thread. Sup?
But while it's a sensible post to make, you take very little stance with it.
Outside of this there is almost no content in your four pages of filter. So I'd really like it if you actually just took a look at two players or so and wrote a pretty clear analysis of their play so far. Feel free to pick any players you like in the game.
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On August 22 2012 11:02 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear what caused you to suspect him in the first place Bluelightz, even if you seem to have then backed out of the idea of him being scum.
It helps me understand how you play.
Scum because he was just telling people the obvious thing to do while not doing it himself but Town because for his response.
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Oh you...like I wasn't gonna do that anyway.
I'm at work right now, but I can assure you I'll be doing just that.
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On August 22 2012 11:10 Bluelightz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2012 11:02 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear what caused you to suspect him in the first place Bluelightz, even if you seem to have then backed out of the idea of him being scum.
It helps me understand how you play. Scum because he was just telling people the obvious thing to do while not doing it himself but Town because for his response.
What obvious thing to do was he telling people to do without doing it himself? Can you quote the post directly?
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I'm still perturbed by lack of Jangalang too.
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@Lvdr you seem to be pretty solidly against the idea of a Random Lynch, yet you've so far offered no true alternative to it, besides a weak accusation of Shady. In fact you're calling for VE to explain something in a perceived "downtime" which I'm not quite sure how to interpret.
Do you think there is no reason to be looking at the players at the moment?
If the day was ending today, who would you vote, and why?
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the perfect one graces you with his presence.
Any particlar questions while i read through the thread? from my brief glance i am opposed to random lynch because i think its stupid.
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On August 22 2012 11:19 iamperfection wrote:
the perfect one graces you with his presence.
Any particlar questions while i read through the thread? from my brief glance i am opposed to random lynch because i think its stupid.
HONESTY REIGNS!
Welcome to the thread.
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I've been actively reading the thread, but there is just not a lot a content so far. It seems most people are playing pretty conservatively so far, and there aren't really any big talking points (outside of the rando-lynch that I weighed in on)
As for lynch policy, I support lynching lurkers D1. Whether it is necessary or not, lynching lurkers is good for forcing activity, and seems to give a decent chance for catching mafia as well.
If the day was ending now (I think this is what you mean?) I think town would be screwed because there is very little to vote on.
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@Palmar You've gone all silent on me. I have questions.
Do you think there is no reason to be looking at the players at the moment?
If the day was ending today, who would you vote, and why?
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I am looking at players, something you seem to be refusing to do, you have hardly given a stance on anyone. If the day ended right now I'd probably be voting talismaniac or you, based on your replies so far.
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Well I don't find myself very suspicious so that vote is out. Reading Talismania's filter what do you find suspicious? As hes made only a few posts, I find little to be suspicious of so far.
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YOU'RE ALL SUSPICIOUS.
Yes, even you.
But we have a common enemy. One who cares not for finding scum, who cares for nothing but himself. I'll tell you his name.
Shady Sands
Whatever you think of me, I can assure you this one means you harm. Hide your kids. HIDE YOUR WIVES!!!!!
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Throughout his filter, Shady Sands does nothing but fling baseless suspicion around the thread at anyone posting for any reason. Go look for yourself, he literally hasn't said anything of substance for me to quote as proof. Every post he makes is a leading, accusatory, one-time interaction with someone in the thread...or arguing with marvellosity. Never have we seen a read or an opinion of his own. Even in arguing with marvellosity I don't get the feeling that Shady thinks marv is scum - and that DOMINATES his filter.
##Unvote
##Vote Shady Sands
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There is a complete lack of
Jangalang
Kville
and to a lesser degree
iamperfection
talismania
I'm confident there's at least one scum among those four names.
Added to Shady Sands, I'm thinking this game might be....too easy?
So, standard operating procedure: I want thoughts on Shady Sands. I think you all should vote for him too, scummiest in the thread, etc. etc.
He's faking activity, and poorly. He has quite a few posts considering the number of people who haven't posted at all - and there's just nothing.
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Actually Bz and Chezinu can be added to those four names, so after Shady flips it's not all titties and beer just yet...but yeah, confidence high on shadyScum right now.
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On August 22 2012 08:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
AND WHERE THE FUCK IS JANGALANG?!
On August 22 2012 11:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm still perturbed by lack of Jangalang too.
Taking my sleep of beauty boy, I need to look good in the company I'm doing my internship.
On August 22 2012 08:35 talismania wrote:
Hey people I don't know: who are you and how you play?
How I play? Well, wish I played long enough to know it. This is my first game of Mafia in my life.
On August 22 2012 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
He wants your thoughts on your peers - how do they play, how is their skill level. He wants you to analyze them as players for the good of the town.
Good idea to be honest, let me start with this:
On August 17 2012 05:33 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2012 00:23 Bluelightz wrote:
/replacement
Player list is too godly to not to :-D.
My nickname is BL :D This newbin in my blood, it came from a family tree. My grandaddy was a newb. My great great grandadddy was a newb. I'm talkin' bout newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN. + Show Spoiler +newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.
newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.
newbin been since newbin since been newbin SINCE BEEN NEWBIN.
However though, meta analysis doesn't work pretty well with people that have short history or Chezinu. So, in order to analyze two of us, we have to figure out what the guys (chezinu and me, you know... jangalang, dingaling, djingbing, whatever you call me). Unlike me though, Chezinu is easier to figure out. If someone knows what him/herself is doing, you can know what he/she is doing too. The problem with me though is I do not (Newbin been since newbin since been newbin since been newbin baby).
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OK, back to actual game stuff:
On August 22 2012 09:48 Lvdr wrote:To jump back to the rando-lynch topic: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359836¤tpage=12#235In this post you explain the strategy, but it doesn't seem particularly strong. 1. There is a good argument for a townie to be against it: more likely to kill town than mafia. 2. If it becomes policy, mafia would have to be insane to try and back out... particularly after a name is chosen. 3. If it is adopted unanimously, there will be no 'voting evidence' to look at later on in the game.
I agree with lovedoc in this. Random lynch is stupid imo and gives no discussion base for day 2 and imo it means that we're doing the scum's job for them. Lynching based on d1 reads seems better to me.
The idea of random lynch is too stupid to be put in action. My first impressions about the reasons why Palmar threw it in were:
a) Palmar is a townie and trying to go for individual pickoffs starting from people who are FOR the random lynch
b) Palmar is a townie and trying to go for individual pickoffs starting from people who are AGAINST the random lynch
c) Palmar is a scumbag and trying to create bandwagons for people who are AGAINST the random lynch claiming that the guy is not a townie just because they gave a thumbs down on the random lynch.
(Note: Marv told me that sometimes things are just the way they look in mafia, which I don't agree for this particular case)
Then I saw this post of Palmar:
On August 22 2012 11:16 Palmar wrote:
@Lvdr you seem to be pretty solidly against the idea of a Random Lynch, yet you've so far offered no true alternative to it, besides a weak accusation of Shady. In fact you're calling for VE to explain something in a perceived "downtime" which I'm not quite sure how to interpret.
Do you think there is no reason to be looking at the players at the moment?
If the day was ending today, who would you vote, and why?
Which eliminated the option a from my list. VE seems to be FOR the random lynch (or he's copycatting Chezinu), which Palmar didn't pick on.
On August 22 2012 11:02 Palmar wrote:
I'd like to hear what caused you to suspect him in the first place Bluelightz, even if you seem to have then backed out of the idea of him being scum.
It helps me understand how you play.
I think it is irrelevant. He just tried to bait him in, couldn't get the bait he wanted to get, backed out. It looks like
a) He's going for individual picking method and trying to really scumhunt
b) He's a scum trying to pretend he's joining the pro-town discussions and shit and may lurk the rest of the day off.
If he tries to lurk the rest of the day off or just try to do the same trick for more times, he'll look scummy to me. Nice little cute trick though, he might employ that in the future.
So, up to now, my reads are:
1- Lovedoc: He looks like just a friendly neighbourhood townie, who seemed to be in for traditional ways.
2- Palmar: He either seems like a DT or a scum, more likely to be a DT. I don't know which one, but it is irrelevant. Either way, he's going to give away scumbags.
3- VE: His style seems... trollish? Posting short and contentless stuff while observing the thread and people, then makes his move.
4- iamperfection: Lurky player, controversial posts, not a good read up to now. An odd idea (random lynch for the particular case) is not necessarily a stupid one (whereas stupid ones are necessarily odd ones). I think the idea is pretty stupid too, I agree with Lovedoc's reasons on that.
5- Bluelightz: Nice little tricks, looking like trying to get into the pro-town discussion. At least looking like.
VE's FoS on Shady took my attention at the last minute though, I'll check his filter too.
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EBWOP: Like I said before, Palmar never picks on Shady Sands either, who seemed to agree with the random lynch thing.
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If only you knew sir. LOL
I love unbiased observations.
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Yes please...comment on my only bit of real actionable content before you write me off as trollish Dj.
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