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Stutters695
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:08 Stutters695 wrote: Sorry guys I reformatted my laptop for GW2 and had some driver issues. I'd like to second Z-Boson's post here: We should either be lynching Z-Boson or Solarsail today without question. Currently its a 5/2 split. If we go after Golbat and he isn't scum for some reason unless there is no night kill again we put ourselves back into LYLO at 3/2 where every town has to hit the same scum or its GG. If we lynch Solarsail or Z-Boson and we hit the wrong one, we still end up at LYLO 3/2 but we have essentially confirmed a scum (town has 0 reason to lie about being roleblocked or roleblocking in the circumstances it happened in). We simply lynch the other person next day and at least salvage it to 2/1 pretty easily. Note: everything from here on is WIFOM on trying to reason who to lynch, but it should be clear that one of them has to die. So in my mind it becomes a question of if we should believe Z-Boson or Solarsail. Looking back at the facts we have these roleblocks claimed by the people who got blocked: N1: DarthPunk N2: Obvious, Darthpunk (Z-Boson claims he RB'd YH) N3: None (Z-Boson claims he RB'd Solar, solar denies) It's pretty safe to assume DarthPunk is telling the truth. He's had a pretty strong town presence all game and would be a fairly good RB target. So that leaves 1 unexplained RB N2 and N3. If Obvious is telling the truth that backs Solar claiming Z-Boson is lying about his RBs and he's scum. If he's not it means both Solar and Obvious are lying and its hard to believe the scums would commit themselves together on something that's easily verifiable. Of course the converse is if Z-Boson is telling the truth we lynch our RB in exchange for a gauranteed scum kill next round. I'm going to reread their filters now to figure out who I think we should lynch but I encourage everyone to consider one of those two as our target today. and if golbat is scum that is still a perfectly legitimate scenario. Several of us are convinced that he is scum, and if he is when he flips red we will look at Z-Boson and solar. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
I am fairly certain of a Z-BOSON and GOLBAT scum team. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
Why would YH distance himself from Golbat by accusing him instead of trying to do something similar with the third scum who isn't lurking and asking to get poilcy lynched like Golbat is. It doesn't make sense at all. We should have policy lynched him d1 or d2 yes but having more info on more people before a LYLO or MYLO is only beneficial. Lynching Golbat we get nothing unless he flips red and if he doesn't we've just wasted a lynch and put ourselves against the chopping block. | ||
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Stutters695
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On August 26 2012 07:49 Stutters695 wrote: You're missing the point though. If Golbat isn't scum (its not a 100% certainty) we're putting ourselves in a 50/50 shot to win or lose on a MYLO the next day instead of having a near 100% chance to take it down to 1 scum by the next lynch. Why would YH distance himself from Golbat by accusing him instead of trying to do something similar with the third scum who isn't lurking and asking to get poilcy lynched like Golbat is. It doesn't make sense at all. We should have policy lynched him d1 or d2 yes but having more info on more people before a LYLO or MYLO is only beneficial. Lynching Golbat we get nothing unless he flips red and if he doesn't we've just wasted a lynch and put ourselves against the chopping block. except we have another night and potentially another roleblock to determine who of solar/Z-Boson is scum. The negative scenario you are espousing is reliant on the idea that golbat will flip green. I believe that is unlikely and therefore am not as worried as you are to that outcome. Let me put it another way. If we mislynch in order to get Solar/Z-boson is Golbat going to be an asset or liability at Endgame? Let me answer this for you. Town Golbat would be a huge liability. Scum Golbat would be a huge liability. There is no reason not to vote for golbat now. even if he is town it is better for us for him to be out of the equation than debating his lynch on day six. | ||
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Stutters695
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Stutters695
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##Unvote ##Vote Golbat | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25550 Posts
Vote count: Golbat (5): Golbat, goodkarma, DarthPunk, Obvious.660 stutters Z-BosoN (1): Solarsail (1): Z-BosoN Golbat currently set to be lynched. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img2.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/480/86558603-shootout-nyc.jpg) Never get caught holding the smoking gun. Dr. slOosh still had a strange feeling about what happened out at EchelonTee's ranch. Why did they send for an emergency visit, but when he got there, he couldn't find anything wrong? Something wasn't right. He decided to confide in syllogism and see if he thought that anything sounded out of place. "Yea, something definitely sounds off about that," syllogism says after slOosh finishes his story. "Maybe we should take a ride back out there and check things out. And lets bring a couple of extra guys, just in case." EchelonTee was sitting at his ranch by himself that evening. wherebugsgo and Ace were out at the big Bel Monte ranch, tending to other family affairs. Suddenly, he hears horses approaching. "Huh, I wonder who that could be?" After a few minutes, there's a knock on the door, and he gets up to see who came calling when he wasn't expecting anyone. "Howdy, Doc, syllo. What can I do for you gentlemen?" he says, completely forgetting that he was supposed to be sick. "Well, you sure seem to be feeling better. Mighty quick getting well, huh?" EchelonTee's heart hammers. "Oh, well yea Doc, I guess you fixed me right up." "Hmmm. Yes, yes. I reckon I did. Mind if we come in? We wanted to have a word with you?" "Sure, sure. Come on in." They chitchatted for a few minutes, then syllogism pipes up. "Hey, EchelonTee, mind if I use your bathroom?" "Of course, its just down the hall on your left." After a few minutes, syllogism calls out from somewhere in the back of the house, "Hey, Doc, you better come take a look at this." They both stand, and start walking towards the hallway. But EchelonTee knows where this is going. He slips his hand onto his gun and follows quietly. When slOosh finds syllogism, he's not in the bathroom. There's another small room off of the hallway that looks like it wasn't intended for guests. And inside, hanging on the wall, are pictures of prominent townfolks. Large red X's had been drawn over the pictures of the men that had died since the shootout that started this whole business. "Well, well, well. Look what we have here," slOosh says. EchelonTee realized the gig was up, so he started to draw his weapon. But he was too slow, slOosh and syllogism already had theirs out first. So he did the thing left that he could do; he started running. He didn't make it far, however. Keirathi and sciberbia were still waiting outside. When EchelonTee came running out, with the other two men chasing him, they didn't hesistate. They both pulled out their rifles and fired. Golbat, as EchelonTee the mafia goon, has been killed Night 4 has started. You have 24 hours to get in your actions. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
GG Golbat. WP town. We got this. <3 | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
FoS Solarsail | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
2. Thus either I or him are scum 3. I am prepared to be lynched in order to implicate Z-Boson and will self-vote to do so if necessary. If anyone knows of a way (I would be not have been informed) AND (Z-boson is not lying) please inform me as that is essential to my plan. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On August 26 2012 10:24 Solarsail wrote: 1. If there is absolutely no way that Z-Boson could have roleblocked me as a night action without me recieving notification about it, he is definitely lying and hence definitely scum. 2. Thus either I or him are scum 3. I am prepared to be lynched in order to implicate Z-Boson and will self-vote to do so if necessary. If anyone knows of a way (I would be not have been informed) AND (Z-boson is not lying) please inform me as that is essential to my plan. No. It is impossible. Either you or Z-Boson is lying. And here is what I propose. If we have a roleblocker or jailkeeper. RB Z - BOSON if their is no NK we lynch Z-Boson if their is we lynch Solar. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On August 26 2012 10:14 DarthPunk wrote: LoL that flavour. Golbat claims sick and EchelonTee pretending to be sick. LMAO GG Golbat. WP town. We got this. <3 That was...unintentional. :o | ||
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
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Solarsail
United Kingdom538 Posts
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
I would like to thank everyone for getting behind the Golbat lynch  .We have one scum left to track down. With either Z-Boson or SolarSail lying about an RB, and town able to afford a mislynch, I'm struggling to see how town can lose at this point. I don't advocate anyone to give up early, as that's no fun for town or scum. But at this point, unless someone can give me a scenario where town doesn't win, I'd say that it's in everyone's best interest if the following happens: @Remaining Scum (Z-Boson or SolarSail): This was a fun game full of ups and downs for both sides, and I would like to thank all of the scum this game for giving it their best to win. But at this point, there is no manner in which you can win. So I request you concede now. You will be saving us days of waiting for an inevitable outcome. Day Length Change: Should the remaining scum refuse, I would propose we change day length from 48 hours to 24. I don't feel we really have much more to discuss at this point. We get behind either a Z-Boson or SolarSail lynch tomorrow. And if we mislynch, we get behind the one we didn't lynch the next day. We can come to a consensus this night cycle on who to lynch by requesting an RB on a specific target and seeing what happens the next day, as DarthPunk proposes, or we could do it by flipping a coin... I really don't know how much it matters at this point, but I would appreciate everyone's input on this matter. Again, thank you all for not getting sloppy and dividing the vote so close to the end of the game. We've got this . | ||
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