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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 09 2012 09:56 Lvdr wrote: He's not llurking 0.0 Anything else aside from the early-game activity? Or perhaps you're mafia trying to start some idle suspicion? | ||
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Axero
United States307 Posts
I have been blessed with my role of townie, and would like to extend neighborly brownies to all my townie brothers and sisters! As for policy: I agree with Hapa's policy of not blindly lynching due to high activity. I'm torn on the lurking policy, just because I'd feel bad if I accidentally voted for a fellow townie; but we must do what we must do to save our homes! | ||
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
On policy, you have to aim at lurkers to make them come out. Ideally there are no lurkers and lynches can be based on info and reasoning. | ||
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goodkarma
United States1067 Posts
 . It's an honor to play with all of you again.Regarding the proposed "lurker lynch" policy: So here's some policy talk from one of the "new guys." Day one lurker lynching is a policy I used to favor, but no longer. It can really limit our ability to put pressure on people now, meaning less information later. Day one may feel useless, as from what I've seen of the statistics it's easy to mislynch day one. But the information gained today from others can be referenced all game. Behavioral patterns become important as the game progresses, and that extra day of information gained from pressuring early is priceless. Here's to hoping that there won't be like 3+ lurkers this game... -_- | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
Thanks much <3 | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 09 2012 10:04 Axero wrote: I agree with Hapa's policy of not blindly lynching due to high activity. I'm torn on the lurking policy, just because I'd feel bad if I accidentally voted for a fellow townie; but we must do what we must do to save our homes! I'm certainly not suggesting picking a random lurker, rather, focusing on lurkers as targets of early game pressure. I'd be very happy taking lynching a scummy lurker D1 - at best, we lynch a mafia, and at worst, we lynch someone who isn't contributing to the scumhunt (barring a strong scum-read on another type of player of course). Thoughts? @ GoodKarma: Welcome from observer-land! On August 09 2012 10:08 goodkarma wrote: Regarding the proposed "lurker lynch" policy: So here's some policy talk from one of the "new guys." Day one lurker lynching is a policy I used to favor, but no longer. It can really limit our ability to put pressure on people now, meaning less information later. Day one may feel useless, as from what I've seen of the statistics it's easy to mislynch day one. But the information gained today from others can be referenced all game. Behavioral patterns become important as the game progresses, and that extra day of information gained from pressuring early is priceless. As I mentioned to Axero, I'm more suggesting a policy of pressuring lurkers aggressively from the start. Furthermore, we've seen several vocal townies in recent games get lynched for being controversial (Golbat and Obvious in Newbie XXI and XXII) - keeping our focus away from extremely active players will help us avoid horrible mislynches like those (barring a scum-sclip from an active player of course). I don't think this policy will narrow our focus in a negative way. Thoughts? | ||
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iamperfection
United States9648 Posts
On August 09 2012 10:18 YourHarry wrote: Guys, just because I act erratically in the beginning doesn't mean it's scummy. I just like getting reactions, OK? Is this allowed? I think after the last game, if I show an inkling of trolling, I would be policy lynched. Do I have a permission to be myself without having to worry about being lynched? Thanks much <3 Why do you think its necessary? I think you can contribute a lot more with just some staight up logic no? It didn't do so well in xxi | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 09 2012 10:18 YourHarry wrote: Guys, just because I act erratically in the beginning doesn't mean it's scummy. I just like getting reactions, OK? Is this allowed? I think after the last game, if I show an inkling of trolling, I would be policy lynched. Do I have a permission to be myself without having to worry about being lynched? Thanks much <3 Do whatever you need to do to scumhunt if you're town! If you're scum, plz roleclaim. No one's going to policy lynch you - I will say I do expect more from you in this game than in XXI, given your thoughtfulness as mafia in the D1 that never existed. Go git 'em! | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On August 09 2012 09:16 Hapahauli wrote: I surprisingly agree with this - if town Harry behaves scummy, and if scum Harry behaves scummy, we might be better of without him no? + Show Spoiler + I'm joking of course, but given how much thought YourHarry put into his scum play for the last two days, I have high expectations of him if he's town. Yeah I'm more or less hoping to hear some policy talk from the newer guys, but I'm also interested in hearing how effective people thought the Day 1 policy was. To me, this is the epitome of town tell. I am almost sure that Hapah is town after this post. He was very adamant last game in disagreeing with iamperfection. Iamperfection argued that I might as well be lynched because I am a bad player and will confuse townies. Hapha was strongly against this - it seemed as if Hapha was disgusted at the thought of justifying lynching a bad townie. Scum hapha would have wanted to avoid confrontation. At least, it would have crossed his mind that people may find him suspicious for shifting his philosophy regarding lynching a scummy townie. I believe that scum Hapha would have argued that lynching a bad townie is still bad - especially when the memory of Hapha strongly disagreeing with iamperfection's justification of lynching me for being incoherent and confusing is obviously fresh in everyone's mind. Thus, I have a strong townie read on Hapha. | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
On August 09 2012 10:25 iamperfection wrote: Why do you think its necessary? I think you can contribute a lot more with just some staight up logic no? It didn't do so well in xxi I dream of catching scums by trolling. Spam the wall with incoherent "YOU ARE SCUM CAUGHT!! ROFLM LYNCH WITH FIRE/" What should sounds like zero-substance BS to innocent townies, could sound like an actual case to guilty scums. As long as I throw in there something that could resemble something of a case. That is my dream. One day... | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On August 09 2012 09:01 Sideni wrote: Awww yeah, here it goes again (and I'm there at the beginning of the game  )Good to have you back! Even though it took you a while to start posting last game, every time you posted it made me smile. You always seem so happy and excited Alright, setting silly fluff aside now. Because I was mafia, my thoughts on how last game went for the townies are probably skewed a bit. I do feel like there was a good atmosphere for discussion. Everyone that chose to stay was a pretty good contributor in my eyes, so I hope that much conversation carries over into this game. I feel like I learned one thing about reads last game that I think it's important for every player to know. First, there is such a thing as a null read. Just because something is not pro-town doesn't mean that it is pro-scum. Bad play is not necessarily scum play. This came into play with my case against Promethelax, where I was truly certain that I had a really good case against him based on what I felt could be interpreted as malicious (ignoring the segment about Golbat, because I had genuinely misread that entire post). I still feel as though he wasn't adding much of his own in-game insight to the discussion, but as I said before, neutral does not prove scummy. The fact that he was town is proof of this. Always keep that in mind, because it can be used to manipulate the town. I'm going out for food in a second, but I'll try to think of anything else I learned. It was a pretty short game, and D2 would have been enlightening. | ||
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
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Lvdr
United States418 Posts
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iamperfection
United States9648 Posts
On August 09 2012 11:06 Lvdr wrote: Both hapa and yh are mafia or both are town? If your going to say something like that at least explain. | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Thanks for your trust, but keep in mind that most players in-game had a strong town read on me in XXI... and we all know what happened out of that! I'll be sure to make my townie motives clear throughout the game =) @Mkfuba07: Hello again! Your games as scum can be so informative/instructive to your townie play; be sure to remember your mentality as scum - mentality is the most important part in making reads on players. I look forward to hearing more of your thoughts, and I certainly hope we're on the same team this time around! | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On August 09 2012 11:06 Lvdr wrote: Both hapa and yh are mafia or both are town? Is Lvdr town or mafia? Is Lvdr creating discussion or sowing suspicion? Also, is Lvdr still intoxicated? | ||
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Kronen
United States732 Posts
On August 09 2012 10:04 Axero wrote: Hi everyone, nice to meet you all! I have been blessed with my role of townie, and would like to extend neighborly brownies to all my townie brothers and sisters! Townie brownie accepted fellow townie (and fellow first-timer)! Thanks all for having me and squeezing me into this game! I'm looking forward to it!  | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
This game though, it just took one post for me to trust you. | ||
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