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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 26 2012 11:55 GMT
#141
On July 26 2012 20:16 Promethelax wrote:

Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 11:57 Golbat wrote:
if i'm not too late to sign up,

/in

This will be my first game =D


You are my hero, I pledge to only lynch you if you are scum and deserve it.


as opposed to.... ? ^_^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 26 2012 18:37 GMT
#142
On July 26 2012 20:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2012 20:16 Promethelax wrote:

On July 26 2012 11:57 Golbat wrote:
if i'm not too late to sign up,

/in

This will be my first game =D


You are my hero, I pledge to only lynch you if you are scum and deserve it.


as opposed to.... ? ^_^


!!FUN!!

or maybe even !!SCIENCE!!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 26 2012 19:01 GMT
#143
Alright, it's time for role PMs to go out. Please refrain from posting in the thread until the Day post goes up.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 26 2012 20:00 GMT
#144
Newbie Mini Mafia XXII



[image loading]
It's okay. He's in a better place now.


It was a quiet day in Liquidia, and the town was gently rising over the horizon. A ray of sunshine shone through Qatol's window, and landed gently on his face. Qatol began to stir. He let out a yawn, and rolled over in his bed, landing on something he wasn't quite expecting.

Qatol's dog barked at him.

"Risen, get out of my bed." Qatol growled, pushing Risen onto the floor. Risen scampered off into the hall, and immediately starting barking. Qatol followed him out, and found ghost_403's cold, lifeless body.

Qatol began to panic. He ran out the door trying to find help.

Marvellosity stayed calm. You can't afford to panic while lining up your shot from the rooftop of a house down the street.



ghost_403 the Ghast was found dead! Again!
Qatol the guy who always rolls VT was shot through the heart!
Risen the puppy ran off into the distance!
Marvellosity the Hired Hitman disappeared into the shadows!



Day 1 has begun! You have 49 hours to identify which of you was responsible.
Deadline is at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). This post went up an hour early.

Good luck and have fun!
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25561 Posts
July 26 2012 20:03 GMT
#145
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 26 2012 20:29 GMT
#146
what the deuce? I'm a bad guy? GHOST YOU ARE IN SO MUCH TROUBLE
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 26 2012 20:33 GMT
#147
On July 27 2012 05:29 marvellosity wrote:
what the deuce? I'm a bad guy? GHOST YOU ARE IN SO MUCH TROUBLE


someone has to kill qatol
can i get my estro logo back pls
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 26 2012 20:33 GMT
#148
Finally it starts!

Now let annihilate this infestation (including you marv, /shoo).
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
July 26 2012 20:41 GMT
#149
First things first:

If we have a town roleblocker, I think its best not to use your role early. You generally have as much chance of hurting a teamate as you do a scum. I'm not saying to NEVER use it, but think carefully and only use it if you are reasonably sure that you are blocking a scum.

Some policy discussion:

Lynch All Liars - I'm of the opinion that there are very, very few cases where lying as a townie is beneficial to town. With that said, there ARE cases where it is a realistic option, so I think blanket policy lynching is a fairly bad thing. Case-by-case basis.

Lynch All Lurkers - As much as lurking hurts town, I feel like at least in newbie games, lurking is almost guaranteed. I encourage everyone to try as hard as they can to avoid lurking sot hat we won't have to discuss this later. Lurking as a townie hurts town. Please don't do it. Again, case-by-case basis.

Are all roleblocks notified, or only people with power roles?
I've seen games where it works both ways, so best to clarify early.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 26 2012 20:52 GMT
#150
Hello all and welcome to Newbie 22! I'm excited to finally be in this game.

I have, much to my delight, rolled town for the first time in a normal mini. I hope to be able to prove to you that I am as innocent as most of you and much more innocent than our scum friends lead by Marv who, shockingly, rolled scum for the millionth time.

On policy: I don't like policy lynches. I feel that town can do better than that and we should lynch scum not liars or lurkers. It is always possible to build cases and to try to lynch scum instead of basing our attacks on a black and white policy.

Keir is right about the town RB though, you should hold your power until d2 at least since blocking a blue role can throw us off immensely. Do not RB until you are sure that someone is scum! If you have a perfect read d1 go ahead but I doubt you do.

Also Keir: I promise to spell your name right this time.

aRyuujin: since you are here would you be kind enough to bless us with one of your Haiku to start some discussion, no need to be silent just because you feel there is nothing to talk about.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
July 26 2012 21:06 GMT
#151
I would like to add to the above for my lovely friendly town players: please use the coach services. BlazingHand loves the attention and bragging rights he gets when town wins. Plus, if you scratch him behind the ears OMG SO CUTE.

And since it has come up, let's not get too caught up on blue roles. Remember, the most important players in this game is me are the vanilla townies.

And last but not least, since I have already contributed a set of haiku, I feel like a limerick will do:

There once was a doggie named Risen
Whose owner was never in prison
>Shot once in the head
>Now sadly, is dead
And the perp has now somehow gone missin'
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 26 2012 21:13 GMT
#152
On July 27 2012 06:06 Obvious.660 wrote:
I would like to add to the above for my lovely friendly town players: please use the coach services. BlazingHand loves the attention and bragging rights he gets when town wins. Plus, if you scratch him behind the ears OMG SO CUTE.

And since it has come up, let's not get too caught up on blue roles. Remember, the most important players in this game is me are the vanilla townies.

And last but not least, since I have already contributed a set of haiku, I feel like a limerick will do:

There once was a doggie named Risen
Whose owner was never in prison
>Shot once in the head
>Now sadly, is dead
And the perp has now somehow gone missin'


To the bolded: I agree completely, too often I see towns (Noob towns in particular) rely on their dt and medic instead of playing the game for themselves. We must actually find scum. It should be possible (50/50) for a town to win with no blue roles and I hope we can prove that this game.

If you are a blue and are scared of being shot don't be: play the game like a VT, that is your best option for survival and our best option for winning. when you claim make sure it is for a good reason that will help town and make sure that you have breadcrumbs of your role/actions to show us as well.

So everyone knows I have work in a few hours (9pm) but when I come back I'm going to stay up to watch some GSL so I'll be around in another 12 hours or so.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 26 2012 21:20 GMT
#153
As the game begins
A little bit about me:
First game on TL

I've played IRL
Which is different from forums
Half the people cheat -_-

New players are still
Developing their play style
Avoid meta reads

I mostly agree
with everything posted here
Lets kill mafia
can i get my estro logo back pls
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
July 26 2012 21:21 GMT
#154
Okay, a few things before we get the scumhunt really rolling: (these are from experience and reading through others' games):

1:
Don't roleclaim D1. Don't. Aside from any potential masons, there are no roles (including those of mafia) that can be activated during the day, so there is no way to get proof that you are the blue (or green!) role you say you are. If you're townie and you claim before absolutely necessary, you're just giving the scum the only information they didn't begin the game with. Claiming is a fairly difficult subject, but in no way that I can think of is claiming D1/N1 beneficial to town. Don't do it. If you want to see what happens, read NMM 12. Dont. Do. it.

2:
Don't discuss policy. At least don't come to an absolute consensus. Speak in vague but absolute sounding terms about encouraging activity. Easiest way for scum to win is to have town all say "Yeah, Lurkers are a bad target, we'll always lynch our best read". Its a pretty common scum strategy to lurk while the active townies FOS all over each other, and eventually kill themselves.

3:
Get help from coaches and guides. Ver didn't write 2,341,839 pages on TLM XXX for his doctoral dissertation, its a useful document to learn from. The coaches didn't /coach to get special status in the OBS QT.

With that, I'm going to vote right now. One player has already been confirmed as scum, and for that he must die. ##Vote:. Marvellosity I love you man, but you killed the host. And his name was in blue.
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
July 26 2012 21:23 GMT
#155
EBWOP:
You all owe me royalties for writing poems. $10 from all of you, thank you very much!
I love the smell of napalm in the morning... it smells like... victory. -_^ Favorite SC2 match ->Liquid`HerO vs. SlayerS CranK g.1 @MLG Summer Championship
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 26 2012 21:29 GMT
#156
On July 27 2012 05:52 Promethelax wrote:
Hello all and welcome to Newbie 22! I'm excited to finally be in this game.

I have, much to my delight, rolled town for the first time in a normal mini. I hope to be able to prove to you that I am as innocent as most of you and much more innocent than our scum friends lead by Marv who, shockingly, rolled scum for the millionth time.

On policy: I don't like policy lynches. I feel that town can do better than that and we should lynch scum not liars or lurkers. It is always possible to build cases and to try to lynch scum instead of basing our attacks on a black and white policy.

Keir is right about the town RB though, you should hold your power until d2 at least since blocking a blue role can throw us off immensely. Do not RB until you are sure that someone is scum! If you have a perfect read d1 go ahead but I doubt you do.

Also Keir: I promise to spell your name right this time.

aRyuujin: since you are here would you be kind enough to bless us with one of your Haiku to start some discussion, no need to be silent just because you feel there is nothing to talk about.


About the bolded part, I think that early on in a game, there really isn't that much to go on in order to choose who to vote for. I also think that which an inactive player isn't necessarily scum, they aren't very helpful to town.

Same goes for liars.

That's my two cents.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 26 2012 21:34 GMT
#157
The target of a roleblocker is always notified of a roleblock.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 26 2012 21:41 GMT
#158
On July 27 2012 06:29 Zorkmid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 05:52 Promethelax wrote:
Hello all and welcome to Newbie 22! I'm excited to finally be in this game.

I have, much to my delight, rolled town for the first time in a normal mini. I hope to be able to prove to you that I am as innocent as most of you and much more innocent than our scum friends lead by Marv who, shockingly, rolled scum for the millionth time.

On policy: I don't like policy lynches. I feel that town can do better than that and we should lynch scum not liars or lurkers. It is always possible to build cases and to try to lynch scum instead of basing our attacks on a black and white policy.

Keir is right about the town RB though, you should hold your power until d2 at least since blocking a blue role can throw us off immensely. Do not RB until you are sure that someone is scum! If you have a perfect read d1 go ahead but I doubt you do.

Also Keir: I promise to spell your name right this time.

aRyuujin: since you are here would you be kind enough to bless us with one of your Haiku to start some discussion, no need to be silent just because you feel there is nothing to talk about.


About the bolded part, I think that early on in a game, there really isn't that much to go on in order to choose who to vote for. I also think that which an inactive player isn't necessarily scum, they aren't very helpful to town.

Same goes for liars.

That's my two cents.


Day 1 is like any other day, we don't have all the information we want to have but we should use what information we do have to lynch a guy who looks scummy. Not a guy who looks like bad town.

Marv said it best in the QT for I can't believe its not themed mini mafia: "best town play is to lynch scum" post 101 if you are curious. It was in reply to something dumb I said.

While I'm not saying we will hit scum without fail we should try to. We can eliminate shitty players later with Vigi shots or scum will shoot them. A lurky scum team will have no ability to control where we look, if me and my boys had lurked in XIX we would have been crushed in LYLO but because 2/3 of us were active we managed a perfect victory despite Keirathi replacing in and figuring out all three of us at just the wrong time.

aR: you make me happy with your Haiku
Obvious: your limerick is excellent as well
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 26 2012 21:43 GMT
#159
I'm not saying that the "best town play" isn't to lynch scum, I'm just saying that in the absence of that inactivity and liars are the next logical targets.

Warning: Nub question::::We HAVE to lynch someone each day, right?
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
July 26 2012 21:45 GMT
#160
On July 27 2012 06:43 Zorkmid wrote:
I'm not saying that the "best town play" isn't to lynch scum, I'm just saying that in the absence of that inactivity and liars are the next logical targets.

Warning: Nub question::::We HAVE to lynch someone each day, right?


No, we do not. We can no-lynch by making sure that no single candidate has a majority on them.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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