Mad Men Mafia - Page 65

On August 10 2012 07:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
IMO Toad should absolutely not out the guy. If we do, even if we lynch talis and he flips scum, our DT will die. Maybe he could give out the logs but without name? If Toad really feel that the person to claim DT is scum, then he should consider outing him and lynching him instead.

The one advantage we have with outing the guy(other than knowing who we are trusting...)is that we will have a confirmed DT if Tallis flips You could argue that he is a good medic target but we don't even know if we have a medic which makes it risky. Also scum could just perma RB the guy if they want too as well, assuming Tallis isn't the scum RB.

On August 10 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:

I still can't tell if the guy is mafia or if it's talis.

I found his breadcrumb all right. I see what he was doing now and it's all fine but mafia could set that kind of stuff up as well.
Again, I posted it in an instant without thinking about it. Should not have posted it and I'm going to ignore it now that I can't make out which of the two guys is the mafia and who's faking.

I hope the rest of you does the same and just proceeds as if I never said a thing. kk thx bye :3

On August 10 2012 07:41 JingleHell wrote:
I take it, then, CD, that while you're living up to that profile of your posting I made, you're not going to defend yourself?

Or were you not reading the thread well enough to spot it, since you're only worried about what's most current in the thread, like scum?

On August 10 2012 07:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Why should we ignore it? We are 99,9% guranteed to get a mafia, either this day or the next. The only scenario we don't get a mafia is if Tallis is miller but that is highly unlikely.

I'm going to bed now. But before that.

##Vote: talismania

On August 10 2012 07:46 CountDropula wrote:


Shhhh...

Quiet...

Watch the play,

You will see.

You will believe.

On August 10 2012 07:47 Toadesstern wrote:

because we kind of can't afford to misslynch right now, even if we're getting a mafia the next day because it might just be over?

On August 10 2012 09:01 marvellosity wrote:
hmm. DT stuff I don't quite get.

Should we just lynch zeph or glasse instead

Glasse especially for his annoying "I'm playing like a dick, but I refuse to stop playing like a dick even though I'm telling everyone I'm playing like a dick" attitude

On August 10 2012 08:47 talismania wrote:


We can't really ignore this toad. How certain are you that it's either/or? This game seems fucked by this one move.

Scenarios spelled out (someone check me if I'm wrong):

17 alive now. Lynch me, I flip miller. 14 alive next day assuming no protects and no more vigis. One more mislynch to give before it's lylo the rest of the way.

17 alive now. Lynch me, I flip vanilla townie. 14 alive next day. Lynch the DT (toad outs during the night to avoid NK complication) and the game is still difficult but now two mislynches to give.

17 alive now. Lynch the DT. He flips DT. 14 alive next day. Lynch me. I flip miller. Lylo the rest of the way (worst case scenario).

17 alive now. Lynch the DT. He flips mafia. Best case scenario.

17 alive now. Lynch outside of me and the DT. Hit mafia - great and go from there. Hit town - then lynch me and stare down the barrels of 5 consecutive lylos.

I won't entertain the scenarios where I'm mafia because I'm not but I doubt any of you will have a problem doing so.

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My problem is that I can't see how this figures into a scum plot. Unless I'm just completely wrong about VE, why this all of a sudden? I guess it can fit with VE but it means a more subtle thing, where VE completely makes up the zephirdd bit as a misdirection or something.

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Hmm I guess I should defend myself or something? This is weird. I don't want to play against my wincon by suggesting that you lynch me first, but lynching the DT seems like it would be doing the same thing, as it's the higher-variance choice. Zugzwang. Lynching outside the pair seems equally high variance.