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CountDropula
Profile Joined April 2012
United States61 Posts
August 09 2012 22:39 GMT
#1281
CountDropula Presents...


A Midsummer Night's Mafia!
(Act I: A Puppet Pageant)

A story of betrayal and revelation.

Starring Talismania as Scum-marionette!

And Zephirdd as Scumpuppet!

Directed by the Puppeteer

*Curtain rise*

Count: Welcome, one and all, and enjoy the show!

And for the mafia in the audience

shake in your seats,

Especially you,
Understudy.

Now,

Scumpuppet!
Scum-marionette!
What do you think of each other?

Talk to each other. 
Out each other.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 09 2012 22:40 GMT
#1282
On August 10 2012 07:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
So now what, you hold the logs until tomorrow, or give them out so we can make our reads on the claim and let the scum WIFOM the shot vs the medic(s)?
IMO Toad should absolutely not out the guy. If we do, even if we lynch talis and he flips scum, our DT will die. Maybe he could give out the logs but without name? If Toad really feel that the person to claim DT is scum, then he should consider outing him and lynching him instead.

The one advantage we have with outing the guy(other than knowing who we are trusting...)is that we will have a confirmed DT if Tallis flips You could argue that he is a good medic target but we don't even know if we have a medic which makes it risky. Also scum could just perma RB the guy if they want too as well, assuming Tallis isn't the scum RB.

I still can't tell if the guy is mafia or if it's talis.

I found his breadcrumb all right. I see what he was doing now and it's all fine but mafia could set that kind of stuff up as well.
Again, I posted it in an instant without thinking about it. Should not have posted it and I'm going to ignore it now that I can't make out which of the two guys is the mafia and who's faking.

I hope the rest of you does the same and just proceeds as if I never said a thing. kk thx bye :3
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 22:41 GMT
#1283
I take it, then, CD, that while you're living up to that profile of your posting I made, you're not going to defend yourself?

Or were you not reading the thread well enough to spot it, since you're only worried about what's most current in the thread, like scum?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 22:45 GMT
#1284
On August 10 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
So now what, you hold the logs until tomorrow, or give them out so we can make our reads on the claim and let the scum WIFOM the shot vs the medic(s)?
IMO Toad should absolutely not out the guy. If we do, even if we lynch talis and he flips scum, our DT will die. Maybe he could give out the logs but without name? If Toad really feel that the person to claim DT is scum, then he should consider outing him and lynching him instead.

The one advantage we have with outing the guy(other than knowing who we are trusting...)is that we will have a confirmed DT if Tallis flips You could argue that he is a good medic target but we don't even know if we have a medic which makes it risky. Also scum could just perma RB the guy if they want too as well, assuming Tallis isn't the scum RB.

I still can't tell if the guy is mafia or if it's talis.

I found his breadcrumb all right. I see what he was doing now and it's all fine but mafia could set that kind of stuff up as well.
Again, I posted it in an instant without thinking about it. Should not have posted it and I'm going to ignore it now that I can't make out which of the two guys is the mafia and who's faking.

I hope the rest of you does the same and just proceeds as if I never said a thing. kk thx bye :3
Why should we ignore it? We are 99,9% guranteed to get a mafia, either this day or the next. The only scenario we don't get a mafia is if Tallis is miller but that is highly unlikely.

I'm going to bed now. But before that.

##Vote: talismania
CountDropula
Profile Joined April 2012
United States61 Posts
August 09 2012 22:46 GMT
#1285
On August 10 2012 07:41 JingleHell wrote:
I take it, then, CD, that while you're living up to that profile of your posting I made, you're not going to defend yourself?

Or were you not reading the thread well enough to spot it, since you're only worried about what's most current in the thread, like scum?


Shhhh...

Quiet...

Watch the play,

You will see.

You will believe.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 09 2012 22:47 GMT
#1286
On August 10 2012 07:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
So now what, you hold the logs until tomorrow, or give them out so we can make our reads on the claim and let the scum WIFOM the shot vs the medic(s)?
IMO Toad should absolutely not out the guy. If we do, even if we lynch talis and he flips scum, our DT will die. Maybe he could give out the logs but without name? If Toad really feel that the person to claim DT is scum, then he should consider outing him and lynching him instead.

The one advantage we have with outing the guy(other than knowing who we are trusting...)is that we will have a confirmed DT if Tallis flips You could argue that he is a good medic target but we don't even know if we have a medic which makes it risky. Also scum could just perma RB the guy if they want too as well, assuming Tallis isn't the scum RB.

I still can't tell if the guy is mafia or if it's talis.

I found his breadcrumb all right. I see what he was doing now and it's all fine but mafia could set that kind of stuff up as well.
Again, I posted it in an instant without thinking about it. Should not have posted it and I'm going to ignore it now that I can't make out which of the two guys is the mafia and who's faking.

I hope the rest of you does the same and just proceeds as if I never said a thing. kk thx bye :3
Why should we ignore it? We are 99,9% guranteed to get a mafia, either this day or the next. The only scenario we don't get a mafia is if Tallis is miller but that is highly unlikely.

I'm going to bed now. But before that.

##Vote: talismania

because we kind of can't afford to misslynch right now, even if we're getting a mafia the next day because it might just be over?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 22:52 GMT
#1287
On August 10 2012 07:46 CountDropula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:41 JingleHell wrote:
I take it, then, CD, that while you're living up to that profile of your posting I made, you're not going to defend yourself?

Or were you not reading the thread well enough to spot it, since you're only worried about what's most current in the thread, like scum?


Shhhh...

Quiet...

Watch the play,

You will see.

You will believe.


I already believe that you're scummy as hell, ignoring cases against you, posting rubbish, ignoring the thread, and hiding among the clutter.

What else, exactly, am I supposed to be seeing?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 22:53 GMT
#1288
And I'm very much NOT convinced Talis is scum, especially without knowing who's claimed DT.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
August 09 2012 23:00 GMT
#1289
"The play" obviously.
Jingle, whats your current take on VE?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 23:08 GMT
#1290
I still think he's a strong lynch candidate, for the same reasons I did already, with a mislynch he helped push added on top of it.

However, I think that if people aren't interested in VE, CD is also a great target.
CountDropula
Profile Joined April 2012
United States61 Posts
August 09 2012 23:27 GMT
#1291
Lazermonkey

You are worthy.

If you vote with me for scumpuppet today
I'll vote with you for scum-marionette tomorrow

We do not need to trust each other
In order to do the right thing

talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 23:47 GMT
#1292
On August 10 2012 07:47 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
So now what, you hold the logs until tomorrow, or give them out so we can make our reads on the claim and let the scum WIFOM the shot vs the medic(s)?
IMO Toad should absolutely not out the guy. If we do, even if we lynch talis and he flips scum, our DT will die. Maybe he could give out the logs but without name? If Toad really feel that the person to claim DT is scum, then he should consider outing him and lynching him instead.

The one advantage we have with outing the guy(other than knowing who we are trusting...)is that we will have a confirmed DT if Tallis flips You could argue that he is a good medic target but we don't even know if we have a medic which makes it risky. Also scum could just perma RB the guy if they want too as well, assuming Tallis isn't the scum RB.

I still can't tell if the guy is mafia or if it's talis.

I found his breadcrumb all right. I see what he was doing now and it's all fine but mafia could set that kind of stuff up as well.
Again, I posted it in an instant without thinking about it. Should not have posted it and I'm going to ignore it now that I can't make out which of the two guys is the mafia and who's faking.

I hope the rest of you does the same and just proceeds as if I never said a thing. kk thx bye :3
Why should we ignore it? We are 99,9% guranteed to get a mafia, either this day or the next. The only scenario we don't get a mafia is if Tallis is miller but that is highly unlikely.

I'm going to bed now. But before that.

##Vote: talismania

because we kind of can't afford to misslynch right now, even if we're getting a mafia the next day because it might just be over?


We can't really ignore this toad. How certain are you that it's either/or? This game seems fucked by this one move.

Scenarios spelled out (someone check me if I'm wrong):

17 alive now. Lynch me, I flip miller. 14 alive next day assuming no protects and no more vigis. One more mislynch to give before it's lylo the rest of the way.

17 alive now. Lynch me, I flip vanilla townie. 14 alive next day. Lynch the DT (toad outs during the night to avoid NK complication) and the game is still difficult but now two mislynches to give.

17 alive now. Lynch the DT. He flips DT. 14 alive next day. Lynch me. I flip miller. Lylo the rest of the way (worst case scenario).

17 alive now. Lynch the DT. He flips mafia. Best case scenario.

17 alive now. Lynch outside of me and the DT. Hit mafia - great and go from there. Hit town - then lynch me and stare down the barrels of 5 consecutive lylos.

I won't entertain the scenarios where I'm mafia because I'm not but I doubt any of you will have a problem doing so.

______________


My problem is that I can't see how this figures into a scum plot. Unless I'm just completely wrong about VE, why this all of a sudden? I guess it can fit with VE but it means a more subtle thing, where VE completely makes up the zephirdd bit as a misdirection or something.

___________


Hmm I guess I should defend myself or something? This is weird. I don't want to play against my wincon by suggesting that you lynch me first, but lynching the DT seems like it would be doing the same thing, as it's the higher-variance choice. Zugzwang. Lynching outside the pair seems equally high variance.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 23:49 GMT
#1293
Where's marv been at? You caught up to speed yet?

Also @toad - why didn't you mason me? Not to be vain but I figured I would be high on your list given that I'm such a chatty type and that you were finding me "weird" and whatnot.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 23:55 GMT
#1294
I think knowing who's claiming DT would help a lot. I want more than a claimed redcheck by an unknown. Without knowing why we're supposed to trust them, it smells like a gambit.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 10 2012 00:01 GMT
#1295
hmm. DT stuff I don't quite get.

Should we just lynch zeph or glasse instead

Glasse especially for his annoying "I'm playing like a dick, but I refuse to stop playing like a dick even though I'm telling everyone I'm playing like a dick" attitude
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 10 2012 00:05 GMT
#1296
On August 10 2012 09:01 marvellosity wrote:
hmm. DT stuff I don't quite get.

Should we just lynch zeph or glasse instead

Glasse especially for his annoying "I'm playing like a dick, but I refuse to stop playing like a dick even though I'm telling everyone I'm playing like a dick" attitude


Right now we don't have a DT. We have what could easily be a fakeclaim.

If it's a scum who's already a high visibility potential lynch, even grabbing one more mislynch for them before dying would be huge.

Without having more information about the claim, I feel safer going into a scummy target. What did you think about my Dropula case?
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 10 2012 00:05 GMT
#1297
I'd like to wait a little and see what's going to happen. I'm not going to out the DT today until I somehow come to the conclusion that he is mafia. Maybe this whole thing will clear up in a while.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#1298
I still can't get over how this managed to happen - toad what made you pick the person you did? I mean that's why I assumed it must be dropula but he's still going on about lynching zephirdd then me (I think?) so that doesn't make too much sense.

@marv if we're going to lynch outside of me and whoever is accusing me I could maybe go for glasse. I'd prefer VE or BKE though. Hassy too but I'm worried about why he's been this inactive. Apparently he gave BC an ok excuse since he wasn't modkilled.
CountDropula
Profile Joined April 2012
United States61 Posts
August 10 2012 00:06 GMT
#1299
On August 10 2012 08:47 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 07:47 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:45 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:40 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 07:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
So now what, you hold the logs until tomorrow, or give them out so we can make our reads on the claim and let the scum WIFOM the shot vs the medic(s)?
IMO Toad should absolutely not out the guy. If we do, even if we lynch talis and he flips scum, our DT will die. Maybe he could give out the logs but without name? If Toad really feel that the person to claim DT is scum, then he should consider outing him and lynching him instead.

The one advantage we have with outing the guy(other than knowing who we are trusting...)is that we will have a confirmed DT if Tallis flips You could argue that he is a good medic target but we don't even know if we have a medic which makes it risky. Also scum could just perma RB the guy if they want too as well, assuming Tallis isn't the scum RB.

I still can't tell if the guy is mafia or if it's talis.

I found his breadcrumb all right. I see what he was doing now and it's all fine but mafia could set that kind of stuff up as well.
Again, I posted it in an instant without thinking about it. Should not have posted it and I'm going to ignore it now that I can't make out which of the two guys is the mafia and who's faking.

I hope the rest of you does the same and just proceeds as if I never said a thing. kk thx bye :3
Why should we ignore it? We are 99,9% guranteed to get a mafia, either this day or the next. The only scenario we don't get a mafia is if Tallis is miller but that is highly unlikely.

I'm going to bed now. But before that.

##Vote: talismania

because we kind of can't afford to misslynch right now, even if we're getting a mafia the next day because it might just be over?


We can't really ignore this toad. How certain are you that it's either/or? This game seems fucked by this one move.

Scenarios spelled out (someone check me if I'm wrong):

17 alive now. Lynch me, I flip miller. 14 alive next day assuming no protects and no more vigis. One more mislynch to give before it's lylo the rest of the way.

17 alive now. Lynch me, I flip vanilla townie. 14 alive next day. Lynch the DT (toad outs during the night to avoid NK complication) and the game is still difficult but now two mislynches to give.

17 alive now. Lynch the DT. He flips DT. 14 alive next day. Lynch me. I flip miller. Lylo the rest of the way (worst case scenario).

17 alive now. Lynch the DT. He flips mafia. Best case scenario.

17 alive now. Lynch outside of me and the DT. Hit mafia - great and go from there. Hit town - then lynch me and stare down the barrels of 5 consecutive lylos.

I won't entertain the scenarios where I'm mafia because I'm not but I doubt any of you will have a problem doing so.

______________


My problem is that I can't see how this figures into a scum plot. Unless I'm just completely wrong about VE, why this all of a sudden? I guess it can fit with VE but it means a more subtle thing, where VE completely makes up the zephirdd bit as a misdirection or something.

___________


Hmm I guess I should defend myself or something? This is weird. I don't want to play against my wincon by suggesting that you lynch me first, but lynching the DT seems like it would be doing the same thing, as it's the higher-variance choice. Zugzwang. Lynching outside the pair seems equally high variance.


Standing ovation,
Scum-marionette
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 10 2012 00:07 GMT
#1300
Guess: CD is sinensis.
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