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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 19:08 GMT
#1241
And if me and Lazer can agree about someone without screaming at eachother, it might just be a bad sign...
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:17 GMT
#1242
On August 10 2012 04:07 Hopeless1der wrote:
I would pretty much say hes absolutely a smurf. Every one of his posts are in this game. It also seems like this puppet master routine was planned, but I can't make heads or tails of his affiliation based on that nonsense. His shitty tunnelling on the other hand is very suspicious and I think that the tunnelling is the core of the case against him. Still, I find VE's latest post/case to be worse than what Dropula has done so far. Dropula will be my second choice of lynch if my case against VE doesn't get any more support.
My thoughts exactly, although I have told IRL friends to try mafia on TL and they havn't been posting anything but in the mafia forums AFAIK. So this it's kinda WIFOM to say that he is a smurf but if he is a smurf he is 101% scum.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#1243
On August 10 2012 03:43 talismania wrote:
Toad can you at least answer if he said I was a goon or a roleblocker? Can't just leave the thread hanging like that.

he said "Talis the mafia goon". That's all I'm going to say.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:19 GMT
#1244
On August 10 2012 04:08 JingleHell wrote:
And if me and Lazer can agree about someone without screaming at eachother, it might just be a bad sign...

<3
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 19:25 GMT
#1245
He claims to be new::

On August 05 2012 23:28 CountDropula wrote:
Not a smurf, I'm new.

Changing votes like that was a mistake. Honestly i was too hasty, and that's it.
Made a mistake, but is it really that suspicious?

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:26 GMT
#1246
On August 10 2012 04:25 talismania wrote:
He claims to be new::

Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 23:28 CountDropula wrote:
Not a smurf, I'm new.

Changing votes like that was a mistake. Honestly i was too hasty, and that's it.
Made a mistake, but is it really that suspicious?

Ya, I know. But you are allowed to lie about being a smurf, right?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 19:27 GMT
#1247
On August 10 2012 04:26 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:25 talismania wrote:
He claims to be new::

On August 05 2012 23:28 CountDropula wrote:
Not a smurf, I'm new.

Changing votes like that was a mistake. Honestly i was too hasty, and that's it.
Made a mistake, but is it really that suspicious?

Ya, I know. But you are allowed to lie about being a smurf, right?


Nonsense. People have to tell the truth in this game. Are you mafia?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 19:27 GMT
#1248
Would kinda eliminate the value of a smurf if you have to admit it, I think.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 19:28 GMT
#1249
On August 10 2012 04:18 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 03:43 talismania wrote:
Toad can you at least answer if he said I was a goon or a roleblocker? Can't just leave the thread hanging like that.

he said "Talis the mafia goon". That's all I'm going to say.


huh. well at least this more or less proves that you're town unless you're way craftier than I remember.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:28 GMT
#1250
Yes, that's was what I was assuming thus I was puzzled to why Talis wrote what he wrote.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 19:29 GMT
#1251
On August 10 2012 04:27 JingleHell wrote:
Would kinda eliminate the value of a smurf if you have to admit it, I think.


Most of the times smurfs do play in public. But maybe that's at the host's discretion.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 19:31 GMT
#1252
On August 06 2012 09:44 Synystyr wrote:
Active mode starting now

grush and CountDropula are the most counterproductive people in this thread. They're being trollish for the sake of screwing with our heads and making us point fingers at each other instead of them. If they weren't scum, they'd be more helpful than they are now. Stop with the hints and talk straight at us.


What ever happened to "active mode"?

You had two posts before this, three posts afterwards. Five or so posts pre-game.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 09 2012 19:34 GMT
#1253
Smurfs never tell people who they are... That's the purpose of a smurf.

Eventually people figure them out or they screw up big time themselves when posting with their origninal account but smurfs lie about wether or not they are a smurf for obvious reasons.

He is 99% a smurf, although I don't agree that he has to be mafia, nor do I think it is likely for him to flip mafia. Though with bugs flipping green the chances increase I guess..
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:37 GMT
#1254
On August 10 2012 04:28 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:18 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 03:43 talismania wrote:
Toad can you at least answer if he said I was a goon or a roleblocker? Can't just leave the thread hanging like that.

he said "Talis the mafia goon". That's all I'm going to say.


huh. well at least this more or less proves that you're town unless you're way craftier than I remember.
How does this prove that Toad is town? Wouldn't this just mean that his ''source'' is town and you are scum or the other way around? I guess it could mean that both you and the other guy are both town if you are a miller.

But how does this mean Toad is town? It's very possible that the guy just told Toad to say he got a red check on you in the thread. This way he wouldn't out himself as DT but still let us know that he got a red check. As there really isn't a reason for town not to out this in the thread Toad is more or less forced to do that no matter what alignment he is.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:39 GMT
#1255
On August 10 2012 04:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Smurfs never tell people who they are... That's the purpose of a smurf.

Eventually people figure them out or they screw up big time themselves when posting with their origninal account but smurfs lie about wether or not they are a smurf for obvious reasons.

He is 99% a smurf, although I don't agree that he has to be mafia, nor do I think it is likely for him to flip mafia. Though with bugs flipping green the chances increase I guess..
Well I guess the purpose with being a smurf is to avoid people judging you by your meta. Why would someone smurf and then troll the thread to death if he got town? It doesn't make sense. But I guess he could be doing it just to fuck with everyone...
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 19:45 GMT
#1256
On August 10 2012 04:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:28 talismania wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:18 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 03:43 talismania wrote:
Toad can you at least answer if he said I was a goon or a roleblocker? Can't just leave the thread hanging like that.

he said "Talis the mafia goon". That's all I'm going to say.


huh. well at least this more or less proves that you're town unless you're way craftier than I remember.
How does this prove that Toad is town? Wouldn't this just mean that his ''source'' is town and you are scum or the other way around? I guess it could mean that both you and the other guy are both town if you are a miller.

But how does this mean Toad is town? It's very possible that the guy just told Toad to say he got a red check on you in the thread. This way he wouldn't out himself as DT but still let us know that he got a red check. As there really isn't a reason for town not to out this in the thread Toad is more or less forced to do that no matter what alignment he is.



Well the way I see it, I am town. If toad were scum, he would know I'm town. There'd be no reason for him to go mum like this in that case. I mean it's like a free mislynch.

A bit of an academic point though everything else about toad's play screams town as well.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 09 2012 19:49 GMT
#1257
On August 10 2012 04:39 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:34 Toadesstern wrote:
Smurfs never tell people who they are... That's the purpose of a smurf.

Eventually people figure them out or they screw up big time themselves when posting with their origninal account but smurfs lie about wether or not they are a smurf for obvious reasons.

He is 99% a smurf, although I don't agree that he has to be mafia, nor do I think it is likely for him to flip mafia. Though with bugs flipping green the chances increase I guess..
Well I guess the purpose with being a smurf is to avoid people judging you by your meta. Why would someone smurf and then troll the thread to death if he got town? It doesn't make sense. But I guess he could be doing it just to fuck with everyone...


Well, let's be perfectly honest... this game hasn't been an ideal situation of town cooperating and scum hunting based on cases. Maybe he started off trying to make his "case" against Zeph properly, it was getting ignored due to being six times longer than it needed to be, so he started trolling.

It would fit the rest of the game pretty well, and it seems that sensationalism has been creating more lynches than logic, all to no avail so far. So he swapped his methods around to keep trying to push a lynch.

Way I see it, there's three scenarios.

A: Fake bus attempt in case Zeph gets flipped red later.

B: Attempt to push through a mislynch, (if Zeph is town, which I guess is still possible) selling on how long he's been suspicious, without being the one who swings voters.

C: Intentionally useless fluff posting.

His posts and case aren't something I can plausibly call contributory or serious, but they're visible and tunnely enough to keep people from calling them out as scummy right off the bat because he calls so much attention to himself.

I suppose in interest of fairness I should come up with some hypotheticals that match the posting that assume CD is town.

A: He's trying to get the person he sees as the right guy, using the wrong reasons, due to how the vote swings have pushed through. If he's doing this, it's an insult to all of us, and a desperate sort of gamble that most townies don't need to try to take.

B: Playing under the influence or trolling townie.

I kind of find the scum scenarios more plausible, although, to be fair, this is all WIFOM.

Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
August 09 2012 19:50 GMT
#1258
On August 10 2012 01:33 talismania wrote:
If he said I was a roleblocker then he's lying.

Perhaps I missed it, but who ever mentioned you being a roleblocker?
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
August 09 2012 19:51 GMT
#1259
On August 10 2012 04:45 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 04:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:28 talismania wrote:
On August 10 2012 04:18 Toadesstern wrote:
On August 10 2012 03:43 talismania wrote:
Toad can you at least answer if he said I was a goon or a roleblocker? Can't just leave the thread hanging like that.

he said "Talis the mafia goon". That's all I'm going to say.


huh. well at least this more or less proves that you're town unless you're way craftier than I remember.
How does this prove that Toad is town? Wouldn't this just mean that his ''source'' is town and you are scum or the other way around? I guess it could mean that both you and the other guy are both town if you are a miller.

But how does this mean Toad is town? It's very possible that the guy just told Toad to say he got a red check on you in the thread. This way he wouldn't out himself as DT but still let us know that he got a red check. As there really isn't a reason for town not to out this in the thread Toad is more or less forced to do that no matter what alignment he is.



Well the way I see it, I am town. If toad were scum, he would know I'm town. There'd be no reason for him to go mum like this in that case. I mean it's like a free mislynch.

A bit of an academic point though everything else about toad's play screams town as well.
I don't get this. If Toad is scum and you are town and we lynch you and you flip town, then we know that the guy is scum unless you flip miller. How will Toad look bad for that?

Yhea, I'm also thinking Toad is town. At least atm.
talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
August 09 2012 19:52 GMT
#1260
I did? I'm under the impression that the DT gives roles. Therefore a DT could see someone as either mafia goon or mafia roleblocker.
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