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ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 25 2012 13:23 GMT
#141
@heist: I still think the plan is foolish. Like I stated before, this game has a lynch mechanic designed to punish last minute vote switches. That's exactly what this plan encourages. With a small subset of people voting one way early on in the day, it becomes increasingly difficult to control the outcome of the lynch. As town, I don't like those kinds of plans.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 14:41 GMT
#142
I was hoping for more than this -_-
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 25 2012 14:52 GMT
#143
@hiro: I'm pretty disappointed too. I'm thinking we should start a 5th party, and just get rid of everyone else.

How do you feel about starting with Grush?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 14:54 GMT
#144
kk, but I get to be Director of Recruitment
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
July 25 2012 15:05 GMT
#145
Not this again... I had enough of Chezinu in Bastard 2 xD
Bio - Breaking it down
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 25 2012 15:07 GMT
#146
In that case, I'm declaring myself the Minister of War, and I'm thinking we should start with BioSC, because of stuff like this:

On July 25 2012 01:32 BioSC wrote:
Hello all,

Glad to see people posting and all. With regards to roleclaiming:

+ Show Spoiler +
Not all of the above red roles will be in the game. In fact, three won't be. Hmm...


This line makes me not want to. It's heavily implied that the "Scum" team have fake claims.

As to claiming power levels (base/max/whatever) I'm also hesitant about that. Leaving the strategy of switching votes at the last minute to me feels like giving mafia more control over the lynch. What if they all have really high base powers? What if there are other mechanics involving power levels with their characters? Honestly, sticking to good old fashioned scumhunting and accountability jazz will probably be the way to handle voting/lynching.


This is a really empty post. I can certainly understand being lost or disoriented with this kind of vote mechanic, but that's not what I'm seeing here. Instead, he's just stating the obvious, and taking a long time to do it. And look at how he ends this post: completely neutral and unhelpful. He's not trying to figure out what's going on in this game, he's trying to blend in.

@hiro: What do you think about going to war with him?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
July 25 2012 15:09 GMT
#147
Stating the obvious? I was stating my stance on the plans at the time. lol
Bio - Breaking it down
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 25 2012 15:18 GMT
#148
@bio: So what are your thoughts now? You still against the vote switching plan, or you want to just treat this like a normal game? Who do you think we should be lynching today?
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 15:24 GMT
#149
On July 26 2012 00:07 ghost_403 wrote:
In that case, I'm declaring myself the Minister of War, and I'm thinking we should start with BioSC, because of stuff like this:

Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 01:32 BioSC wrote:
Hello all,

Glad to see people posting and all. With regards to roleclaiming:

+ Show Spoiler +
Not all of the above red roles will be in the game. In fact, three won't be. Hmm...


This line makes me not want to. It's heavily implied that the "Scum" team have fake claims.

As to claiming power levels (base/max/whatever) I'm also hesitant about that. Leaving the strategy of switching votes at the last minute to me feels like giving mafia more control over the lynch. What if they all have really high base powers? What if there are other mechanics involving power levels with their characters? Honestly, sticking to good old fashioned scumhunting and accountability jazz will probably be the way to handle voting/lynching.


This is a really empty post. I can certainly understand being lost or disoriented with this kind of vote mechanic, but that's not what I'm seeing here. Instead, he's just stating the obvious, and taking a long time to do it. And look at how he ends this post: completely neutral and unhelpful. He's not trying to figure out what's going on in this game, he's trying to blend in.

@hiro: What do you think about going to war with him?


I don't see really anything scummy with that post. It'd be nice to hear him talk about some of the people in this game, though.



I'm more interested in MajuGarzett.

On July 25 2012 00:58 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 22:47 HiroPro wrote:
Eh revealing your power level isnt such a great idea... Gives mafia an idea of who to eliminate.

I have a very simple way to ensure that lynches happen the way they should: if you are not voting for the candidate with the most votes, then right before the deadline you must switch your vote to this candidate. Effectively, this then becomes a plurality lynch.

That just discourages different viewpoints. How would that be good while trying to scum hunt?


He comes in and asks a question, which is useless and then proceeds to afk. He doesn't offer his opinion on either of the plans suggested in the thread or stick around to make any responses. This is the same type of empty posting that he showed in Bastard 2 as mafia - remember how the only thing he did night 0 was ask what benefits he could gain and cast some light doubt. Contrast to something like LVI as town, where he has no problem making opinions or saying what he thinks personally.



Also, I'm ditching my plan. There's no way it can get implemented when we have 3 people not posting and another 3 who said they won't follow it.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
July 25 2012 15:28 GMT
#150
On July 26 2012 00:18 ghost_403 wrote:
@bio: So what are your thoughts now? You still against the vote switching plan, or you want to just treat this like a normal game? Who do you think we should be lynching today?


I'm against the vote switching plan. Based on the activity level so far in this game, it would be really hard to have everyone on board anyways. Grush, Maju, Kenpachi, and Fulla have yet to post any large amount, with only Maju posting since the game started.

I'm also not liking Michaelthe's nonchalance with day1 lynches. It's fine to not like the random plans that we come up with, but to seriously think rolling a dice and voting at random helps at all is crazy. His only contribution to the game so far is the vote on Sinensis.

For lynch targets, I would be ok with either him or Maju. There are a few people coasting by this game with bare minimum posts, him being one of them. Grush, Kenpachi, and Fulla all haven't posted anything, and I would rather not waste a lynch on someone who's in line to be replaced/modkilled. That being said, should they come back and not contribute, I would be more than happy to start charging my PL.
Bio - Breaking it down
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 15:31 GMT
#151
Let's build some power guys.

##Vote MajuGarzett
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 25 2012 15:34 GMT
#152
TLM LVI:
On June 30 2012 15:50 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 14:23 Bill Murray wrote:
VE's selfvote shenanigans is scummy
I do not agree with faking confirmation bias

How was that confirmation bias?
And how have so many people voted on so little evidence.


DBZMM:
On July 25 2012 00:58 MajuGarzett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 22:47 HiroPro wrote:
Eh revealing your power level isnt such a great idea... Gives mafia an idea of who to eliminate.

I have a very simple way to ensure that lynches happen the way they should: if you are not voting for the candidate with the most votes, then right before the deadline you must switch your vote to this candidate. Effectively, this then becomes a plurality lynch.

That just discourages different viewpoints. How would that be good while trying to scum hunt?


I really don't see any difference between these two posts.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
BioSC
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States636 Posts
July 25 2012 15:35 GMT
#153
Sounds like a Power Level plan to me.

##Vote MajuGarzett
Bio - Breaking it down
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 15:38 GMT
#154
On July 26 2012 00:34 ghost_403 wrote:
TLM LVI:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 15:50 MajuGarzett wrote:
On June 30 2012 14:23 Bill Murray wrote:
VE's selfvote shenanigans is scummy
I do not agree with faking confirmation bias

How was that confirmation bias?
And how have so many people voted on so little evidence.


DBZMM:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 00:58 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 24 2012 22:47 HiroPro wrote:
Eh revealing your power level isnt such a great idea... Gives mafia an idea of who to eliminate.

I have a very simple way to ensure that lynches happen the way they should: if you are not voting for the candidate with the most votes, then right before the deadline you must switch your vote to this candidate. Effectively, this then becomes a plurality lynch.

That just discourages different viewpoints. How would that be good while trying to scum hunt?


I really don't see any difference between these two posts.


Look at his posting right after that. Does he disappear? No, in his very next post he responds to BM and says that his reasoning is poor.
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 25 2012 15:48 GMT
#155
@hiro: So? He didn't disappear in Bastard Mafia 2, where he rolled scum. I see his absence in the thread as being a null tell.
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 25 2012 15:53 GMT
#156
On July 26 2012 00:48 ghost_403 wrote:
@hiro: So? He didn't disappear in Bastard Mafia 2, where he rolled scum. I see his absence in the thread as being a null tell.


eh, true.
heist
Profile Joined April 2011
United States720 Posts
July 25 2012 18:51 GMT
#157
Trying to implement the plan at this point I suppose is futile. So full steam ahead with getting our votes in as early as possible for it to make a difference.

There are essentially 4 lurkers: grush57, Fulla, Kenpachi, MajuGarzett. I was considering voting for one of them, but there's simply no information on them.

grush57 - is useless and tends to lurk no matter his alignment. Possible modkill anyways.
Kenpachi - I don't think a veteran like him would choose to purposefully lurk through all of day 1. Reserve judgment.
Fulla - despite his initial enthusiasm, not a single post. Don't know what to think. Possible modkill anyways.
MajuGarzett - has one question. I'm frankly not seeing the connection between this single action here and his play from the other game. Ghost you said it in your post, his absence in the thread is a NULL TELL.

Null tell for all of them. A better target for me is TheMichael.

This is my impression:
Sinensis is a slightly confused, overeager townie. Sinensis' plan is a flop and his vote on ghost is honestly irrational and based on fluff. In other words, he's the perfect easy target for scum. Sinensis was the easiest target, just really setting himself up at that point in the game.

TheMichael jumps on him immediately with a counter vote. I've tried to prod him on his one real post of substance, and frankly I don't like his response. He doesn't care who dies and implies that he's really really weak in Power Level. He is the most suspicious one to me so far, and I'll be putting my vote on him.

##Vote: TheMichael
Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
July 25 2012 19:08 GMT
#158
Guys sorry, I kept looking for the Samurai thread, I thought it must have been postponed and temporarily hidden or something. Just found out it's this and got renamed. In future PM please!!!!

Since you get stronger from lynching I might as well lynch someone for now. Cancel or change later.

##Vote: Kenpachi

Please PM people who haven't made a post yet? They might not have noticed the rename
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iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 25 2012 19:25 GMT
#159
grush57 has not made a post on TL since July 22, other than that everyone has posted. I'll look for a replacement for grush.

Welcome to the game, sorry about the confusion!
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MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 25 2012 19:34 GMT
#160
Sorry for being gone for so long though I feel not being present isn't a good way to decide a vote.

I agree with heist about themichael's play. He says he just wants to lynch someone randomly. Though he says he would rather lynch for information he is one of the first people to vote before much time has passed and info can be gathered. Also choosing completely randomly is unlikely. He should have at least had some reason for sinensis such as that sinensis had already voted so his lynch would give info. Michael just disregards all logic and votes for whomever he pleases.

##Vote: TheMichael
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