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On July 26 2012 04:34 MajuGarzett wrote:
Sorry for being gone for so long though I feel not being present isn't a good way to decide a vote.
I agree with heist about themichael's play. He says he just wants to lynch someone randomly. Though he says he would rather lynch for information he is one of the first people to vote before much time has passed and info can be gathered. Also choosing completely randomly is unlikely. He should have at least had some reason for sinensis such as that sinensis had already voted so his lynch would give info. Michael just disregards all logic and votes for whomever he pleases.
##Vote: TheMichael
EBWOP
I meant is stupid, I fused it with the thought that he just voted for some town player not making the vote completely random.
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Not sure who themichael is, you guys might want to change your votes  I have some time right now so I'm going to go through michael's stuff from LI/SS.
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Kenpachi was the first 1 to reply, but since then has said nothing. What does he have to say?
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Ok, I just glanced through LI and Space Station (town games of michaelthe). I really think michaelthe's random lynch/vote on Sinensis doesn't really tell us anything about his alignment.
In Space Station he makes a random vote for mayor and says that he'd like to randomly lynch to kill scum. In LI, he votes for someone because he doesn't like their strategy.
What he's done this game looks pretty similar to me. Could he be scum? Sure, but what he's done so far looks like exactly what he does as town too.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 13 2012 09:51 michaelthe wrote:
I vote we start with a self-imposed "Accelerated Start". Everyone goto random.org and roll 1-30. You must vote for that person. You can change your vote to some one else but cannot simply unvote.
I rolled 23.
##Vote: MrZentor On April 13 2012 11:08 michaelthe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2012 11:03 Node wrote:
All right everybody, for this game I'm determined to suck less than I have recently. After re-reading Ver's XXX analysis I've come up with a few goals for my play this game, including making extensive use of PMs, paying attention to player history, being better at differentiating between scum and bad town play, and posting more in general. I'd like to encourage everyone else to adopt similar goals, especially the newer players among us. ^_^
Also, all you prospective captains: I'm going to need more than "hey vote for me". I don't intend to vote for anybody that doesn't have a halfway decent plan for a lynch. (and no, launching Ace out of the airlock for the hell of it doesn't count) I would random lynch. More likely to hit scum imo.
On April 09 2012 03:06 michaelthe wrote:
Scummiest of all so far: GMarshal. What type of goobag Eastern Orthodox bullcrap is this, starting a game on the REAL Easter date!
For serious though, this may make killing lurkers on day1 retarded. It is an actual holiday....
2cents on the bullcrap so far:
Risen/ET: Agree with the sentiment of many that this was just two monkeys needlessly flinging poo.
Tunkeg's list: By your list I am a top 9 player with 1 win as scum in a noob game. Clearly this list is 100% accurate, I'm pretty good at this game. As one of the stronger players, I feel a need on this Easter holiday to help crap players like jackal. Jakal: I will act as your guide this game, all you need to do is embrace me as your mentor, guide, guru, and sensei.
FourFace:
1. You posted you wanted to try a kidney/bladder strategy this game before the game even started.
2. You claimed town and a desire to be less active, but said you would continue to test your strategy.
3. You added to the strategy by creating an alter-ego, which serves simply to confuse the f*** outa the town.
Good news!!! I have early results!
Your strategy is crap.
##vote FourFace On April 09 2012 03:28 michaelthe wrote:
and ebwop:
Two Options:
1. He is scum. I havent seen any great reads so far, so I'd say chances of this are 6/30, 20%.
2. He is town testing a stupid strategy. Even if scum or town, chances of it being a stupid strategy: 100%
so we have 120% chance that this is a good lynch.
Fulla, why is it that you have nothing to say about what's going on?
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It's 3 hours till lynch and there are honestly no other good alternatives in my mind. The case is weak, but it's day 1 and the case on anyone is going to be weak. I'm just going with my biggest suspicions.
In regards to TheMichael, the issue isn't the fact that he placed a random vote on someone. In fact, I would argue that his vote is NOT random at all. He specifically targeted Sinensis right after Sinensis makes a hasty vote on Ghost. I feel like he's jumping on the easy townie. Of course, I could be misreading it, but who is the better alternative here in that case?
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Eh I don't think it's ghost_403 he didn't bite the way I wanted him to.
Plus I support killing grush57 at any stage of any game as it is ALWAYS the right decision. Leaving my vote on him while I'm at work.
##vote: grush57
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On July 26 2012 06:13 heist wrote:
It's 3 hours till lynch and there are honestly no other good alternatives in my mind. The case is weak, but it's day 1 and the case on anyone is going to be weak. I'm just going with my biggest suspicions.
In regards to TheMichael, the issue isn't the fact that he placed a random vote on someone. In fact, I would argue that his vote is NOT random at all. He specifically targeted Sinensis right after Sinensis makes a hasty vote on Ghost. I feel like he's jumping on the easy townie. Of course, I could be misreading it, but who is the better alternative here in that case?
I thought deadline was 10pm EDT?
We still have 5 hours.
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9:00 KST
Why is there always confusion... this is why I put the TL time in addition to the [time] bracketed time..
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Mattchew is replacing grush57.
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reading... will catch up in the next hour or so
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Mattchew's on my autolynch list. LET'S GET 'IM.
lololjkjkjk
Got 20 minutes until I have to get out of here. Thoughts in a second.
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I'd actually be pretty happy lynching Heist at the moment.
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On July 26 2012 06:46 ghost_403 wrote:
I'd actually be pretty happy lynching Heist at the moment.
Any particular reason for that? I like his vote and he's been active at the very least.
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Ok how has no one suggested a minimum wait time on the voting process (atleast d1 and d2)? Allowing people to sit on their lynch target for 2 days is irresponsible.
Being that people have already been sitting on votes, I am going to vote Majugarzett right now, because he is just my first scumread. The fact that he has not reconsidered his vote on themichael after ignoring Hiropro and his concerns to the root of the entire reasoning for Maju's vote.
Ghost care to elaborate on the Heist?
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@maju: Don't you think his vote is a bit hypocritical? Take another look at it:
On July 26 2012 03:51 heist wrote:
Trying to implement the plan at this point I suppose is futile. So full steam ahead with getting our votes in as early as possible for it to make a difference.
There are essentially 4 lurkers: grush57, Fulla, Kenpachi, MajuGarzett. I was considering voting for one of them, but there's simply no information on them.
grush57 - is useless and tends to lurk no matter his alignment. Possible modkill anyways.
Kenpachi - I don't think a veteran like him would choose to purposefully lurk through all of day 1. Reserve judgment.
Fulla - despite his initial enthusiasm, not a single post. Don't know what to think. Possible modkill anyways.
MajuGarzett - has one question. I'm frankly not seeing the connection between this single action here and his play from the other game. Ghost you said it in your post, his absence in the thread is a NULL TELL.
Null tell for all of them. A better target for me is TheMichael.
This is my impression:
Sinensis is a slightly confused, overeager townie. Sinensis' plan is a flop and his vote on ghost is honestly irrational and based on fluff. In other words, he's the perfect easy target for scum. Sinensis was the easiest target, just really setting himself up at that point in the game.
TheMichael jumps on him immediately with a counter vote. I've tried to prod him on his one real post of substance, and frankly I don't like his response. He doesn't care who dies and implies that he's really really weak in Power Level. He is the most suspicious one to me so far, and I'll be putting my vote on him.
##Vote: TheMichael
His reason for suspecting that Sin was town was because he made a foolish move. Then, he immediately votes michaelThe for jumping in with a counter vote. It seems to me that his counter vote could just as easily make him an easy target. [to be continued]
I'd like to take more time to work this out, but I have to run out the door. I might have a moment to pop in later, but I'm not optimistic. I would encourage everyone to at least take a look at heist. michaelThe isn't a terrible lynch, but we can do better.
##vote heist
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catching up now, welcome mattchew
I'm gonna unvote, I don't really want to kill Mattchew right now.
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On July 26 2012 07:09 s0Lstice wrote:
catching up now, welcome mattchew
I'm gonna unvote, I don't really want to kill Mattchew right now.
this game is very slow. lets converse for a bit, what do you think of Maju and his vote on michael, and what do you think of Hiropro's defense of michael
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firstly, I agree with the defense. I don't think there is a strong meta argument to be made on Maju at the moment. There is just not enough to go on in that regard.
I however find his vote on michaelthe pretty suspicious. I think this is a good enough reason to kill him today, honestly. It feels a lot like a scummer latching on to the first blatantly scummy thing a townie does and running with it. His tone when he explained the vote seemed really played up. It's obvious the reasoning is pretty shitty (why not be upfront about it), but he talks it up anyway. Do you agree Matt?
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also tell me what you think of sinensis matt
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