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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
July 23 2012 16:16 GMT
#1061
Alrighty guys, looking towards the next day lynch right now really. Since a lot of us have doubts about fulla I thought I’d do a full analysis of his filter to see what I came up with.

He starts off with a short “welcome everyone” then goes quiet for over a day. This doesn’t say much in itself but I feel like mafia in the QT would have said something like “don’t lurk guys”. Small edge towards town.

He comes back in and says he’s noob but has been reading and keeping up.

On July 18 2012 05:49 Fulla wrote:
I'm back for a few hours now, until deadline so I'll try to respond to everything.

Tube
I don't think he's suspicious simply for posting 1 liners, it just comes across as an eager noob trying to play the game to me. When challenged and asked to stop tube he responded and tried to improve.

I think it comes down to 2 things:
- What are the realistic chances of him flipping scum?
- Should he flip town, do we atleast learn anything, such as accuser X/Y are 100% scum then. So we get them after. or the blues know who to check.

This is why I asked my question as whether statistically over eager/excited 1liner posters in the first 24 hours, do they usually flip scum? If like 90% never do, I'd lean strongly to not lynching him. I atleast thought this was a relevant question.

Next up Obvious..
Next day he comes in and sort of defends tube. He explains that tube’s attitude is overly eager and says the 1 liners are not necessarily suspicious. He then posts what could be interpreted as a wishy-washy convoluted analysis about whether or not we’ll gain any knowledge from his flip. No strong commitment. But it is consistent with his earlier stance. This post is slightly suspect o me because he says a lot without really saying anything. What are his reads, what’s his action plan? Sounds like he’s just undecided.

Next he defends obvious initially, but then casts his vote on him nevertheless when obvious disappears. I guess this can be justified considering the fact that obvious disappeared making him more suspicious.

He says Harry was a town read but his bad posts made him doubt himself. He then agrees that Harry is town. Seems like decent enough reasoning to me.

On July 19 2012 23:39 Fulla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 23:23 JingleHell wrote:
That reads painfully like an OMGUS, Fulla.


I actually had to look that up on google. So he votes me, I get angry and react voting him back?

The point was:
- He didn't contribute to other suspicions/discussions.
- Kept on and on about how inactive I am. (other inactive players what about them?) Why so over the top?
- Seems he REALLY wanted me in the spotlight with suspicion.
- Still managed to come in and make sure obvious was lynched.
- But try to stay out of it with me and his target.

Is that not dodgy?
He has a mafia read on hopeless which I’m not sure what to think about. He’s consistent on him, at least. His case is quoted above.

I think I’m leaning town in my read. From what he’s posted, his strategy and tone seem to be consistent. His readings on tube and Harry appear reasonable and supported based on their actions in context. I personally agree with his Harry reads.

I’ll ask you though, fulla, why/how did you read Harry as town initially? He had very few posts until the kill obvious one-liners which is what made you go back on your initial read. This is the biggest criticism I can come up with for your play.

I’m very satisfied with our choice to lynch tube. I think going on the posting behavior and actions this is our best call. 48 hours ago we were going at each other pretty hard so I think it would have been tempting to lurk more heavily, which could explain tube’s posting. Hopefully we bag another one of the suckers. If tube flips mafia then you’ve got some explaining to do, hopeless.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
July 23 2012 17:02 GMT
#1062
##Vote Tube
I'm probably going to have some explaining to do either way tonight.
What pushed me over the edge on tube was that I hadn't really considered the timing of his vote against iamperfection just before wiggles was being lynched (despite hapa clearly pointing it out). With YourHarry's analysis, and iamperfection fighting to keep the pressure on tube+ Show Spoiler +
On July 23 2012 22:58 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 22:19 tube wrote:
I didn't jump on the obvious bandwagon I saw reasons of my own to vote him and I think I was the second vote on him.
Wiggles was definitely going to die that day so I voted perfection to show that I still thought of him as scum.

"honestly mafia is laughing at you" wasn't at wiggles read the context again

its crap like this man it would have taken two seconds to go back and you would have seen i was the second vote on obcious.

Also it was sure thing that drwiggle was going to be lynched when you voted for me? Try again go look back he had 0 votes when you voted for me. So unless you had the gift of foresight you couldnt have known and why would you lie about it now?

, I feel good about lynching tube.

Sorry that I didn't give too much yesterday. Currently at work so I may have a chance to catch up during lunch, otherwise I'll be back after the deadline.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
July 23 2012 18:37 GMT
#1063
eh you guys are making a mistake lol
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
July 23 2012 18:38 GMT
#1064
On July 24 2012 03:37 tube wrote:
eh you guys are making a mistake lol
The way you've played would suggest otherwise.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
July 23 2012 18:44 GMT
#1065
V-V-V-V-VOTECOUNT

Nobody missed the votecounts?


iamperfection (0): calgar, Hopeless1der

tube (7): iamperfection, calgar, YourHarry, Hapahauli, Speedbump, Fulla, Hopeless1der

Not yet voted: tube

tube is set to be lynched

You have about 4 1/4 hours till the deadline. Please use the correct format for voting, including ##s and unvotes when needed. Wrong votes will not be found by cntrl-f
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
July 23 2012 18:47 GMT
#1066
On July 24 2012 03:37 tube wrote:
eh you guys are making a mistake lol

Are you going to vote?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 23 2012 21:04 GMT
#1067
On July 24 2012 03:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2012 03:37 tube wrote:
eh you guys are making a mistake lol

Are you going to vote?


Mafia dying w/out giving any reads. Pretty standard.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
July 23 2012 22:02 GMT
#1068
Not even trying to defend?
New Hearthstone Cards ----> www.youtube.com/FullasGames
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
July 23 2012 22:04 GMT
#1069
On July 24 2012 07:02 Fulla wrote:
Not even trying to defend?
Hapa has already explained why. Respond to my question, please.
Fulla
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom519 Posts
July 23 2012 22:17 GMT
#1070
On July 24 2012 01:16 calgar wrote:
I’ll ask you though, fulla, why/how did you read Harry as town initially? He had very few posts until the kill obvious one-liners which is what made you go back on your initial read. This is the biggest criticism I can come up with for your play.


Initially (very early on) he was a bit dodgy with what he saying, like everyone else he was raising my eyebrows.

Then he went up against a confirmed JK Town, I found it completely bizarre!!! I didn't think a scum would do this, especially with everyone jumping on the lynch Harry bandwagon so fast and no team mate trying to divert attention to someone else.

If you read my posts at the time, I was urging caution and suggesting to lynch some else. Fortunately Wiggles screwed himself over so we found him.

New Hearthstone Cards ----> www.youtube.com/FullasGames
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 00:24 GMT
#1071
"Where is my prune juice" - Jingle

It's past deadline, isn't it?
Never!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#1072
Hmmm, this be true. Hang on a sec
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#1073
you've been forgotten TT
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Speedbump
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
New Zealand338 Posts
July 24 2012 00:36 GMT
#1074
Back in my day, at least you young punk mods would play Bridge with us before forgetting us. *shakes fist*

@Fulla: I woke up late for an interview this morning. I can give my analysis part-way in the night.
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 00:38:27
July 24 2012 00:37 GMT
#1075
[image loading]


It was a simpler time back then. When cars were rare and safety belts a nuisance. Of course that never stopped the seniors at the home. Feeling like a day out that broke into the home garage and stole the travel bus. All excited about a trip to the ocean they careened around the parking lot, doing donuts in a people mover.

Sadly, tube forgot to buckle up and was thrown out of the side window.


tube the Senior has been thrown from a vehicle


It is night time. Deadline is in around 23.5 hrs at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Please send me your actions as soon as possible.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
July 24 2012 00:50 GMT
#1076
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
July 24 2012 00:54 GMT
#1077
Wellllllll shit.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 01:23 GMT
#1078
LOL. Shit
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 01:24 GMT
#1079
Mod could you update the player list on page 1? Thanks!
Never!
YourHarry
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
July 24 2012 01:27 GMT
#1080
Detective should leave breadcrumbs. We should all post breadcrumb posts so scums don't know which one of us is the detective. This should be done minutes before deadline, preferably.
Never!
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