Newbie Mini Mafia XXI - Page 56

On July 22 2012 08:23 calgar wrote:
Alright townies, I’ll call it like I see it.

Sorry to see you go jingle, we'll bag the rest for ya.

@confirmed townies – I consider everyone besides iamperfection, tube, fulla, and speed to be more or less ‘confirmed’ as town. This is in varying degrees, of course, considering the fact that we're going on guesses based on our reasoning. I feel reasonably confident that there is enough info to make solid assumptions here in most of the cases.

@direction – It’s difficult to say where to go now because the remaining players are a mix of inactivity and suspicious activity which is helping the mafia hide. I think all four of them have been generally inactive, some moreso than others. I assessed what tiny bit of mufaa’s old filter was there and the vague feel I got based off of it was town. Going off of what little that is, I’m inclined to put him/speedbump on hold and go towards the other three for now.

IGMEOY iamperfection, tube, fulla

I'll kick things off with this vote since it seems to be where hopeless and hapa are leaning towards also.
##Vote iamperfection

On July 21 2012 13:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
As a note regarding Jingle's request for protection, I really doubt we have a medic and a jailkeeper. Jailer can be used to simulate a medic if used correctly, and the balance of this game would be insanely town favored if we had both imo.
Can scum KP be roleblocked?
Because that's probably your only way to survive until tomorrow Jingle.

On July 23 2012 14:01 Speedbump wrote:
@Hapahauli: While I'm still suspicious of iamperfection, the cases posted against Tube are very compelling. Tube has spent no time defending himself and sounds like a mafia dying as quiet as possible.

@Hopeless1der: Based on level of suspiciousness each player has, the most probable mafia is tube, Fulla being the secondmost.

Tube is still posting in a manner that makes it very hard to believe that he could be anything other than mafia. Fulla has spent even less time posting towards helping town, mainly avoiding conversation by lurking and posting one-liners. The only time Fulla has tried to help town is through relentless railing of Hopeless1der, who I have a very good town read on.

@YourHarry: I also find the interactions between drwiggl3s and tube to be rather weird. I do not see a town tube to be so willing in his complacency in actively hunting mafia.
With these two posts tube made in Day 1, with the post analysis, the second post makes me adamant that tube is mafia.



As such, ##Vote tube.

On July 21 2012 19:11 Speedbump wrote:

I'm going to re-read everything tonight, and hopefully be caught up a few hours before the end of night.
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On July 25 2012 11:23 YourHarry wrote:
Dude, guys. This is MYLO. We should NOT vote. You can FOS, but voting could allow scums to bandwagon and end the game immediately.

On July 25 2012 11:56 Hapahauli wrote:


I don't mind votes if they lead to discussion. Remember, votes are easily changeable, especially with just under 48 hours left until the lynch deadline. What are your thoughts on the suspicions brought forth so far? (Hopeless1der and Calgar)

On July 25 2012 12:15 YourHarry wrote:
Hapha, are you vanilla?

On July 25 2012 12:36 Hapahauli wrote:


Vanilla Townie (Senior?) indeed - thought I didn't need to make it clear, since I'd have roleclaimed already if I was blue.

On July 25 2012 13:01 YourHarry wrote:


Yea, that's what I assumed but just to make it clear.

I don't know... I suck

Someone help LOL.

On July 20 2012 03:34 drwiggl3s wrote:
I'm sorry Jingle but I really missed your breadcrumb as well and I've been steadily reading this thread.. so I'm not sure even with 3 mafia members that any of them actually caught it. And if they did, I don't agree with your speculations either. Throughout D1 and N1 you and Hap were arguing 50% of the time and spamming up the thread against each others post. Not saying this because you're both mafia, but it's definitely doing mafia's job for them. This is why I think neither of you were NK'ed.

As for Calgar, he was harsh pushing for iamperfection. Perhaps iamperfection is town and so mafia were happy to just let Calgar continue his case into D2? Or perhaps Calgar is the "obviously town acting" mafia scum you were talking about.

Either way, Mafia killed Evul. A lurker, who was going to be replaced. Netting us literally 0 information we can use, other than WIFOM.

For my reads right now, I wouldn't mind testing the waters with a Calgar lynch. Getting one of the major players out of the way and see what he flips. This could tell us a lot about iamperfection as well as others who are resistant (or soft defending) a Calgar lynch.

On July 21 2012 04:54 calgar wrote:
Ok, I’ll be switching my vote to drwiggl3s here.

I also want to propose a temporary solution to iamperfection. I may have been reading his actions on the wrong side of the coin. I’ve said in my previous posts that it boiled down to whether he was mafia or confused townie. At the time we didn’t have anything better to go off of so I considered it to be our best vote in order to maximize the % of killing mafia. What he’s said recently in his vote on YourHarry made me change my mind. His defense of YourHarry shows his reluctance to put the vote there, so he shouldn’t have any trouble changing to match with jingle again.

Anyways, what made me doubt my strong stance previously has a lot to do with the flurry of posting last night and today. YourHarry seems to have been pressured into making several revealing plays. Drwiggl3s has positioned himself to look good after the lynch. We can evaluate these more closely, soon. When iamperfection said that his best town read was jingle I understood about him following jingle’s vote. I’ve been sort of doing the same with hapa. Now, to ‘prove’ his townie-ness, let’s get him to agree to vote with jingle every vote. He says he believes jingle is essentially 100% town so he’s going to follow him. As long as he does so, then we have his vote with the town side no matter what his role is. He shouldn’t have any problem agreeing to this since he has said he wants to follow jingle’s vote. We can use this as a temporary stall to eliminate him from our suspects pool and try to root out member #2 after drwiggl3s. As long as he is voting with us, he is a temporary ally.

##Unvote
##Vote drwiggl3s