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Matt/Dropbear/Milton as his potential partners in my eyes.
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
Keir Matt/Dropbear/Milton as his potential partners in my eyes. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:19 Risen wrote: I just think if Keir is scum you're the only logical partner.maybe gonzaw but I like him :/ Keri is trading himself 1 for 1 here btw guys. If you lynch gonzaw tonight we're still ok, but I really think Keri is scummy as hell. Look at him harping on my "misleading" people. How the hell? I never claimed a check on gonzaw, my posting clearly shows my check was on s0L. He's muddying up the waters to try and trade 1 for 1 since that's about as good as it gets for him now. Trading 1 for 1 with you make NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. If I'm scum, and you're cop, then I leave my 1 teamate against 3 confirmed townies. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4430 Posts
Ok so two things are important. If Milton is telling the truth about the roleblocking and if they are mafia aligned AND if Risen is telling the truth and is sane. A - Both are lying and are the remaining scum. Lynching Risen gets scum. B - Milton tells the truth, Risen lies and is scum. Lynching Risen gets scum. C - Both are telling the truth. Risen won't get another check at all. Mafia will either shoot or block him for the rest of the game. If Mafia decide just to block him and leave him alive, noone EVER gets confirmed. Then it makes Risen look bad and could lead to a shitstorm of mislynching later down the line. Lynching Risen now confirms strongandbig and solstice, tomorrow we lynch through one of the other remaining players. D - Milton lies, Risen tells truth. Risen will almost definitely get shot if there is no mafia roleblocker, so we are going to lose him anyway as there are no medics and evidence so far suggests that there is no jailkeeper. He will almost definitely die. Lynching Risen confirms solstice and strongandbig, tomorrow we lynch through one of the other remaining players. Based on the permutations, I think we should lynch Risen. If there are holes in my logic please point them out! ##Vote Risen | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On July 19 2012 03:26 strongandbig wrote: okay so wait a minute actually risen when you said + Show Spoiler [this] + On July 18 2012 07:24 Risen wrote: Town in my eyes me strongandbig s0Lstice dude whatever it's summer miltonkram dropbear keirathi sciberbia mattchew (completely dependent on gonzaw flip or mason claim) scummy as fuck gonzaw (I'm going to hold that the misspelling of milton's name was a scumslip, also see other cases posted) ##vote gonzaw List order is from town in my eyes to scum in my eyes. If gonzaw flips scum Mattchew becomes scummier in my eyes (unless he's the mason partner in which case confirmed town). I don't think milton is scummy b/c why would his teammates misspell his name. Dropbear and tali beign scum would mean double scum up for lynch d1 and I don't see that as likely. Scib and Keir could be swapped, I can't tell whether my dislike of Keir is b/c he doesn't like me or b/c I genuinely find him scummy. I would really like to claim so if the mason could claim right now I'd be pretty pleased. There's a good chance that with mason claim we might just be winning (regardless of gonzaw alignment) @Risen any response to this? | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:26 Keirathi wrote: Trading 1 for 1 with you make NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. If I'm scum, and you're cop, then I leave my 1 teamate against 3 confirmed townies. Unless somehow you convince townies that no scum would be that stupid, and then they think of you as confirmed townie, much like I did with poor johnnywup. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
No. He became my top read following his reaction to the gonzaw bus | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 19 2012 05:25 DropBear wrote: 1) I can't see this in the OP? Where am I supposed to be looking? 2) No. 1)Ehmm....I thought it was stated somewhere? >_> 2)Will the real mason please stand up? Please stand up? Seriously, we'll get 1 confirmed town today and hopefully get 1 less suspect for the lynch, I don't get why a player that can be confirmed town won't claim mason. At worst we'll 100% know he's town and therefore we can 100% trust his reads and thougths. That will mean people can't cast doubt on him or anything and he could be a leader for town while he's alive. Anyways, Dropbear isn't mason...so he's still a suspect then. Hmm....Mattchew+Dropbear would make sense, although I got some townie feels from Dropbear before. Anyways....I have to go away right now so I still don't have time for that defense >_> In the meantime, I'd like people to read those posts I made and post their thoughts on Mattchew | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:29 DropBear wrote: I think we should lynch Risen. Ok so two things are important. If Milton is telling the truth about the roleblocking and if they are mafia aligned AND if Risen is telling the truth and is sane. A - Both are lying and are the remaining scum. Lynching Risen gets scum. B - Milton tells the truth, Risen lies and is scum. Lynching Risen gets scum. C - Both are telling the truth. Risen won't get another check at all. Mafia will either shoot or block him for the rest of the game. If Mafia decide just to block him and leave him alive, noone EVER gets confirmed. Then it makes Risen look bad and could lead to a shitstorm of mislynching later down the line. Lynching Risen now confirms strongandbig and solstice, tomorrow we lynch through one of the other remaining players. D - Milton lies, Risen tells truth. Risen will almost definitely get shot if there is no mafia roleblocker, so we are going to lose him anyway as there are no medics and evidence so far suggests that there is no jailkeeper. He will almost definitely die. Lynching Risen confirms solstice and strongandbig, tomorrow we lynch through one of the other remaining players. Based on the permutations, I think we should lynch Risen. If there are holes in my logic please point them out! ##Vote Risen I like how this ignores every other player in the game rofl. Dropbear is Keir's partner? | ||
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sciberbia
United States1359 Posts
I'm not sold on your logic, but you will have to wait a few hours for a response. @Risen I think you are quite biased against Keirathi because he suggested that we lynch you. Could you please explain what makes him so scummy in your eyes? I just don't see how you can be so sure. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:29 Risen wrote: Gonzaw why are you voting Mattchew here? Who do you think his partner is? I think keir has been acting way more scummy than mattchew. If Matt is playing his #1 townie style I don't see why we aren't lynch keir. Btw, that's the only way I see Matt as scum is if he's playing as his pro townie self, dude is ruthless and probably why I don't trust him. Also yeah it's just a meta read Matt :/ Could be any of Dropbear/Keirathi/MIlton I get the feeling Keirathi is town so it's either Dropbear or Milton. I haven't checked them yet and some stuff may seem "senseless" if one or the other are scum, but I haven't had time to check. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:32 gonzaw wrote: 1)Ehmm....I thought it was stated somewhere? >_> 2)Will the real mason please stand up? Please stand up? Seriously, we'll get 1 confirmed town today and hopefully get 1 less suspect for the lynch, I don't get why a player that can be confirmed town won't claim mason. At worst we'll 100% know he's town and therefore we can 100% trust his reads and thougths. That will mean people can't cast doubt on him or anything and he could be a leader for town while he's alive. Anyways, Dropbear isn't mason...so he's still a suspect then. Hmm....Mattchew+Dropbear would make sense, although I got some townie feels from Dropbear before. Anyways....I have to go away right now so I still don't have time for that defense >_> In the meantime, I'd like people to read those posts I made and post their thoughts on Mattchew I read your post and keir/drop makes more sense to me than keir/Matt. Also, why are you neglecting the very, very real possibility that one of my confirmed townies is the mason. It's shit like this that makes you look scummy. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4430 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:33 Risen wrote: I like how this ignores every other player in the game rofl. Dropbear is Keir's partner? Dude there is no way of confirming either claim beyond a flip. I can see absolutely no reason why you have claimed so early, or for your breadcrumb. You were under suspicion from several people and were unlikely to be shot by mafia. Plus you say you had no scum hits so you had no real important information to give by claiming. I have no idea whether I believe you or not and this is as far as I can tell the only way, given the added complication of Milton's claim. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:33 sciberbia wrote: @dropbear I'm not sold on your logic, but you will have to wait a few hours for a response. @Risen I think you are quite biased against Keirathi because he suggested that we lynch you. Could you please explain what makes him so scummy in your eyes? I just don't see how you can be so sure. Look at every one of his posts as if you're me (assume I'm telling the truth and I'm town cop). You then see how scummy his posting looks. If I was one of you I probably wouldn't really see it either, then throw in his self-vote and no scum would do this logic? I don't know if I'd vote him either. No one went with me in ssb64, no one went with me when I was cop w/ confirmed red check, I'm hoping people will just go with me here for once. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Your checks aren't confirmed town if you flip scum, but they are confirmed town if they claim mason | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:40 DropBear wrote: Dude there is no way of confirming either claim beyond a flip. I can see absolutely no reason why you have claimed so early, or for your breadcrumb. You were under suspicion from several people and were unlikely to be shot by mafia. Plus you say you had no scum hits so you had no real important information to give by claiming. I have no idea whether I believe you or not and this is as far as I can tell the only way, given the added complication of Milton's claim. That doesn't explain why you ignore completely all other people in this game. Your play of lynching me then shooting another townie tonight leaves enough confusion that a mislynch on a townie tomorrow is a very real possibility. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:42 Risen wrote: That doesn't explain why you ignore completely all other people in this game. Your play of lynching me then shooting another townie tonight leaves enough confusion that a mislynch on a townie tomorrow is a very real possibility. Thinking about this and Matt/gonzaw are the two lynch candidates tomorrow if you lynch me here and then shoot away from those two. Gonzaw will probably then get lynched and then what? | ||
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DropBear
Australia4430 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:42 Risen wrote: That doesn't explain why you ignore completely all other people in this game. Your play of lynching me then shooting another townie tonight leaves enough confusion that a mislynch on a townie tomorrow is a very real possibility. I don't ignore all the other people. The plan takes into effect you, strongandbig, solstice and milton. That's 4 of 9, no? Even if it fucks up and takes 2 townies with it, there is still one more mislynch possible until lylo if I count correctly, assuming there are 2 remaining mafia. 2 out of 5 is a pretty good chance I would say with two lynches, not only that last I checked I was a terran as well so make that 2 out of 4. You neglected my question about your sanity. If you are unsure of your sanity, my plan goes out the window and I go back to scumhunting the old-fashioned way. Do you know if you are sane or not? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 19 2012 06:29 Risen wrote: Gonzaw why are you voting Mattchew here? Who do you think his partner is? I think keir has been acting way more scummy than mattchew. If Matt is playing his #1 townie style I don't see why we aren't lynch keir. Btw, that's the only way I see Matt as scum is if he's playing as his pro townie self, dude is ruthless and probably why I don't trust him. Also yeah it's just a meta read Matt :/ thats fine just wanted to be open and honest about it. | ||
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