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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 09:58 sandroba wrote: That was a trap too, that failed. I didn't msg anyone. Really? Why don't message your reads to your strongest town read? So when something bad happens they got your back? Ehh.. Well. Okay. | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 10:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I have had my vote stolen for the entire cycle. Also I really don't like the idea of not killing kurumi today. The last thing we need to do is give up an easy scum kill. When did you learn this? Mattchew told us about it during the day. On July 19 2012 10:25 Probulous wrote: OK, we kill Kurumi. ##Vote: Kurumi If we can only kill one person at a time during both day and night then can we speed up this particular day? Everyone will be voting Kurumi and if the whole 48hrs is used people are just going to AFK. Don't shorten the day! That's stupid. We're at Day 2 and we need to get organized. | ||
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Kurumi
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I did not believe I would survive Day 1. I did not believe I would survive Night 1. I believe I can survive Day 2. | ||
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On July 19 2012 14:36 Probulous wrote: Urgh. Whatever man. I would love to be able to just shutup and shoot but we can't. We can only kill one person per day. If I had my way, it would be the senior management, so I am focusing my scumhunting on senior players because I believe the hosts would not have put someone like Zealos (for example) as the CEO. Now is BM a senior player? I don't know, hence my question. To use your example, I am trying to take out the guy organising the killing, rather than the one reloading the guns. Bill Murray is considered a vet. Is he considered a mastermind of planning and evil? Not sure, wouldn't bet on it. I think that "newbie" could be a CEO. He is less important in the grand scheme of things. At the start Mafia is basically in two families: one led by Chairman of the Board and second by the President of Marketing, totaling 4 members. Their jobs is to make sure all three minions are coordinated enough so they can work together. CEO's job on the other hand is to make sure two families know each-others plans. He might be the guy behind everything, but it'd take a cycle to make sure both sides know what to do, while the other High Rank scum has no info and would need to do something himself anyway. The most important guys are the High Ranks. Without them, CEO and the minions are left alone. One can't communicate at all and others can't get orders. High Ranks are likely to be veteran players or players with good history. Veterans: RebirthOfLegend (dead, town) Foolishness GGQ Bill Murray Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu (eeeeee I am going to say town on this one) Good players: sandroba (alive but all looks like he is town) Palmar wherebugsgo (dead, town) syllogism probably VisceraEyes, not sure though. GGQ and Bill Murray are pretty much lurking to the max. Have you seen them post? Me neither. Foolishness is semi-active, but has free-time to spare. Meapak is active. Chezinu is active and "trolling". Palmar is semi-active soon to be lurkish. Syllogism is active. VisceraEyes is semi-active. Remember that two people claimed power to block nukes: VisceraEyes and Blazinghand. Blazinghand wanted to save me for some reason. I think that would be foolish, given that my situation was terrible. VisceraEyes action of defending Blazinghand from HiroPro's "nuke" is suspicious in my opinion. Why would he do that? He never voted BH, so that part of the story holds. Besides that, Bill Murray has voted and then unvoted me in the voting thread. I have no idea why, but I guess thanks. While I dislike Foolishness' case because it is centered on "BM is not all over the place, therefore scum" instead of things he dug up. This should be the most important: + Show Spoiler + On July 19 2012 12:31 Foolishness wrote: Bill Murray! But his best post this game is probably the one he made against me: The issue here isn't about what's being said but about when it was said. He is essentially just restating arguments that were already laid out in full by wherebugsgo, syllogism, and sandroba. Bill Murray came late to the game. Has he provided something to the town that's genuine and fresh? No. He waits to see what the town thinks before trying to weigh in a contribution. But that aside what other posts has Bill Murray made that are of interest this game? One of my favorites is: We all know apathy is a trait many mafia possess. Outside of that, it was interesting to watch him go from wanting to kill Chezinu without a second thought: To thinking he is town the next day: I think that Foolishness' case put too much emphasis on meta (which is always handy to have, so linking to filters of games where somebody played X is good) and not on the in-game behaviour itself. Now onto gonzaw's case on supersoft. When I was reading supersoft during this game, something wasn't okay... His style seemed different from what I've remembered. A lot of short posts, no value, "just dicking around" attitude. This set off red flags in my head but I never bothered to check that out. supersoft's filter from Bang Bang 2( (Vanilla Townie) supersoft's filter from LV (Jailer) First game isn't what I've been searching for. Well, Bang Bang 2 is an.. interesting setup. But look at the second filter: He is a blue and is not afraid to push his cases or make them. Overall active and helpful. This game, his posts rather lackluster. There is a lot more of one-liners, less of those medium-ones and there's only one big one. He also defends a lot of people this game.. + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2012 04:28 supersoft wrote: we are not lynching veterans today. Wait at least for night 1 and see who's left by then. On July 17 2012 02:43 supersoft wrote: ah I corrected that list for you ;-) *stop going for palmar. All of you. That guy works best if you let him do his job. judge him based on his results not based on his playstyle. + this makes him the most hillarious player so far. We can't afford to lose him. On July 18 2012 08:08 supersoft wrote: okay time is ready for my interim findings: IV. With his following attemps (for example to accuse GGQ) to clear the blame fail in my eyes. Accusing GGQ is easy and the motiveless effort to try to justify the attack on sandroba with this dubious speculations about the immense power of sandrobas role doesn't turn me around. | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 12:29 GGQ wrote: ##vote Kurumi Baby, what the fuck can you post in this thread too? Like, play? | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 19:24 supersoft wrote: longest post of kurumi ever seen o_o It's not that important. That's just mish-mash of recent things or things important to point out. It has nothing on Radfield's Fall. So yeah, I'll try to get something more interesting and focused. | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 19:46 supersoft wrote: actually voterigger isnt very protown... stealing abilitys isnt either He is not Vote Rigger. He is Politician who steals day abilities together with the vote. So, Bill why did you choose those other guys? | ||
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On July 19 2012 19:56 Bill Murray wrote: why did mattchew try to nuke me? Ooooooooh. You know you'd die anyway right? Unless this game follows some funky mechanics. So basically you assumed that: a) Meapak has a day power. b) Meapak wouldn't use it properly. Why? | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 20:20 Bill Murray wrote: but, im proven to not be an executive, now im either 1) shitty low level/totem pole mafia 2) a blue/green (i consider it a green, because i have no real abilities other than 2 votes potentially) i added the potentially, because I can probably be roleblocked RebirthOfLegend (dead, town) Foolishness GGQ Bill Murray (Politician, can't be high rank) Meapak_Ziphh Chezinu (eeeeee I am going to say town on this one) Good players: sandroba (alive but all looks like he is town) Palmar wherebugsgo (dead, town) syllogism VisceraEyes Okay, so it looks like that if you're speaking the truth (which looks like it) | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 19 2012 23:32 Palmar wrote: meh layabout isn't scum. Also, do we really not have a vigilante? I still need to catch up since yesterday. I would've expected kurumi to be dead by now. Why layabout isn't scum? You haven't given many reasons for most of your reads so far. | ||
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Kurumi
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I don't care about layabout. I care about guys who are long enough here to be granted important roles. Be it theorycrafting or whatever, if there's a game where roles will be rigged - this is it. Thus, I will only focus on vets/good players. I am only searching for 4 scum players. Veterans: RebirthOfLegend (dead, town) Foolishness - semi-active GGQ - inactive Bill Murray - inactive, claimed Politician Meapak_Ziphh - active Chezinu (eeeeee I am going to say town on this one) active-trolling Good players: sandroba (alive but all looks like he is town) active, claimed Guy-Who-Sends-Messages Palmar - semi-active wherebugsgo (dead, town) syllogism - active VisceraEyes - semi active (Katina?) - active Semi-active and inactive guys get a priority. Does that make sense for any of you guys? Should I pursue that kind of thing? I find it unlikely for Zealos to be for example, President of Marketing. We're on Day 2 and we've had a lot of interactions between those guys already. Most notable one are probably Katina versus Foolishness, Foolishness versus Bill Murray and Palmar versus Foolishness also Sandroba versus Foolishness? | ||
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Kurumi
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GGQ I am very confident that GGQ is scum. His filter is not even one page long. (Actually 5 in-game posts.) "How can you say anything about the guy then, Kurumi?" Some of you have pointed out that Mafia's biggest objective is to survive. You can do it vanilla style - try to blend in during the discussion. You can do it lurker style - just avoid the fire and appear when everything's a little more silent... There's always false townie style, where you basically try to forget about your role and go with the flow while trying to keep in mind who's good target and who's not. As we've seen so far, being a lurker in this game is a GREAT option. We've been attacking each other like mad. If it wasn't an in-game attack, it was an attack on person her/himself. We've got a good player lurking like mad for no reason. It's already Day 2. If he was really occupied, guess what - he'd get replaced, just like two guys already, but he has no reason to ask for one. When I call him out that he is actively lurking(I am going to count how much it takes you to respond to this GGQ by the way) How does that answer sound to you? It's strict denial. He sees nothing wrong with his play. He feels no guilt. Why would he? There's a post by him in this quote too. He shares... a little of his knowledge... HE HAS PLAYED TWO DAMN SLEEPER CELL GAMES. Everything he has to tell us is that Mafia do whatever they please on Day 1. Solid advice here man. On July 17 2012 03:42 GGQ wrote: What? Why? What would that accomplish? How would that help us find scum? Palmar does that shit all the time. It's stupid and unhelpful but arguing about it has never changed him before and it won't now. ##vote blazinghand He tries to shift focus off from Palmar. He is defending him telling people that Palmar is just like that. That's what Palmar should've probably said, right? Look at how this post ends "has never changed him before and it won't now" it's a decisive NO. And this BH vote. He did explain it, right? On July 18 2012 11:24 GGQ wrote: Why did I vote BH without mentioning even a single word about him? To see what would happen, of course! Most people's responses were good; just asking me why or making little noises of disgust. The only one who tried to construe it as scummy was Austin the squirming mafia. Why did I vote BH at all? Because he was being active and throwing his vote around without doing anything and seemed very concerned with his own activity, as if it was justifying something. I believed and still believe he is scum. I get very bad vibes from HiroPro. His posts all feel like he's just putting in his time. There's a bunch of other possible mafias in my mind, but another day another noose. The case on gonzaw feels weaker than the one on austin to me. I prefer to lynch BH or austinmcc, but I'll switch before deadline if it's necessary to get a lynch. TO SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? Sounds like someone doesn't freaking care about the lynch? Wait, he does care, look at the last line! Why would a person with no thread presence try to defend Palmar? GGQ has NEVER said anything about Palmar. Never EVER. If you were searching for a guy trying to survive - here you go. Why would you lurk as Town in this game? With 1KP, Mafia has little power to do anything to stop you from acting. Sure, they might have roleblockers, maybe politicians or anti-nukers, but it's the cases which should win games. Palmar and Bill Murray are playing similar style, where they mostly post one-liners or troll material. Palmar just now started pushing layabout hard (without proper case, just some meta to back it up). GGQ has a lot of knowledge. It is Day 2 and he hasn't shared ANY of it. He is denying us information. No cases made, no activity in the thread, NOTHING. He is trying for his survival. If he comes guns blazing at any point in the game... I think you'll get it that he's scum. I am voting GGQ. ##vote GGQ | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 20 2012 06:19 Blazinghand wrote: That's a fair point. I suppose I should do a reread of GGQ to see what he's done this game, but if he's played the same way as Zealos, then he too must be scum. Re-reading GGQ is quick, given that he has 5 posts, 2 of which have are shorter than 3 lines  | ||
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Kurumi
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##nuke GGQ I'll do it again, damnit! | ||
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On July 20 2012 09:30 HiroPro wrote: I'd rather not assume this. But we'll see I guess. Because it is wrong. RoL had a nuke too - but it was a dud. 2 Nuke powers and 2 anti-nuke powers. Which one of the anti-nuke powers is soviet production though? | ||
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Kurumi
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On July 20 2012 09:43 Zealos wrote: Someone is gonna have to spell it out to me, I really don't understand the benefit? Is it so I wouldn't be able to distinguish him from my supposed mafia bosses? On July 17 2012 06:08 sandroba wrote: Meh I think mafia is going to kill me anyway so no harm doing this. I can msg people. kurumi just nuked someone so I knew he couldn't be CEO/Chairman/President. So I messaged kurumi this: Use "of course" "pretty sure" and "very well" in the same post so your peers can identify you as soon as you read this. Look for this combination starting tonight to identify the others. His next post was this: So there ya go he just got owned. The repercussions of my claim is that even after mafia kills me they can't know for certain there is no other abilities like mine in the game so all their communication is no longer safe. Have fun mafia =P If anyone has any sort of day killing abilities they should shoot kurumi right now. If no one does so and some killing ability gets used during the day down the line that means that person is scum. Did you miss that post or what? | ||
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On July 20 2012 09:44 Zealos wrote: Well, I have been more than useless this game. /sigh/ Roleclaim. | ||
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VT would sufficie. | ||
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