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Intact
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden634 Posts
July 11 2012 14:59 GMT
#101
/in
This seem interesting
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 11 2012 15:45 GMT
#102
yay potential modkilltargets :-D
(please prove me wrong about this)
Q-bert-Z
Profile Joined October 2011
United States75 Posts
July 11 2012 18:04 GMT
#103
/in

<Nonchalant whimsical comment.>
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
July 11 2012 18:07 GMT
#104
I'm tempted to say you're a smurf but I don't think anyone has the attention span to make an account, post a few times in an LR thread, then lurk for 7 months just to smurf. Welcome to TL Mafia! Make sure to check out the stickied threads and become an awesome super pro player.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
July 11 2012 18:09 GMT
#105
lol blazinghand that's how smurfs work...
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
July 11 2012 18:10 GMT
#106
Really? 7 months is a long time ;_;

I guess he's probably RoL's smurf then.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 11 2012 18:13 GMT
#107
Well there's a simple way to know. If his name makes it onto the player list, he's a smurf
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
July 11 2012 18:14 GMT
#108
Oh, actually, maybe he's Palmar. That sounds more plausible to me, now that I think about it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 11 2012 18:17 GMT
#109
Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25559 Posts
July 11 2012 18:20 GMT
#110
On July 12 2012 03:17 gonzaw wrote:
Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is.


You know what's funny, it sounds like this is a really dumb mistake, but it's super super easy to do by accident. Like, amazingly easy. If I were gonna smurf, I'd log into TL with the smurf account on a different browser (chrome, or firefox, or something) and ONLY use that browser for playing mafia, so I wouldn't have to deal with who's logged in and who's logged out-- chrome for the smurf, firefox for blazinghand. or something.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 11 2012 18:22 GMT
#111
It's harder than it sounds I tried that when I played as a hydra, but I just kept defaulting to my normal browser and screwing up.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 11 2012 18:24 GMT
#112
On July 12 2012 03:17 gonzaw wrote:
Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is.


or you're like me and you smurf in a game only to realize no one cares what you think until you claim who you are, then you get called scum based on identity

no really
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 11 2012 18:37 GMT
#113
On July 12 2012 03:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 03:17 gonzaw wrote:
Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is.


You know what's funny, it sounds like this is a really dumb mistake, but it's super super easy to do by accident. Like, amazingly easy. If I were gonna smurf, I'd log into TL with the smurf account on a different browser (chrome, or firefox, or something) and ONLY use that browser for playing mafia, so I wouldn't have to deal with who's logged in and who's logged out-- chrome for the smurf, firefox for blazinghand. or something.


Well...I'm just always logged in as the smurf and that's it >_>

I guess that wouldn't work if I'm playing another game with my real account though
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 11 2012 18:45 GMT
#114
On July 12 2012 03:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 03:17 gonzaw wrote:
Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is.


or you're like me and you smurf in a game only to realize no one cares what you think until you claim who you are, then you get called scum based on identity

no really


Hey now.


On July 01 2012 22:44 austinmcc wrote:
NoSmurf, initially I read you as one of the more sensible and townie folks in the thread. However, this caught my eye somewhat:


Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 10:23 NoSmurfHere wrote:
You seem to sincerely believe in such terrible logic, so you're probably town. However I'm not voting BKE just because it's day 1. I don't think anything he's done or said is so far particularly scummy. At no point have I agreed with that terrible case, so why bother acknowledging that the rest of you are idiots for bandwagoning him?

On the other hand mafia lurk to shake suspicion ALL the time. mK seemingly has done exactly this, and if he's mafia certainly it's working.

So, in this case, obviously I'm far more inclined to believe that the guy who is actively trying to stop a bad lynch is town whereas the scummy lurker is not. If mK is town he has a huge incentive to address the votes on him and make a case on his scumreads rather than disappear immediately after voting. Also speculating about his status is pretty stupid when I voted for him fairly quickly after he posted.



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On July 01 2012 12:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote:
On July 01 2012 06:40 EchelonTee wrote:
Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it.


I do remember that game, one of my favourites. The difference between sephirotharg and casualman is that sephiroth was trying and making errors, casualman is not even trying at all, just acting obnoxiously.

Vigs, shoot him tonight. Lets not waste a lynch and a full day cycle worth of discussion on someone who is trolling us.




On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote:
On July 01 2012 06:25 layabout wrote:
On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:
On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE

I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow.

If you're not caught up why did you vote?


I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early.

Could you maybe share some of your decision making process?

You know, so that we can see you did more than place your vote on the guy with the most votes.


sure.

On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town.
a) kill a lurker
b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game

I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1.

BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that.
I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory.

I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book.


This post stinks. You seem to be ignoring the obvious third choice for town on day 1: we lynch someone acting scummy. You're recommending we lynch BKE on the basis that you don't like people casting early judgments. This is encouraging a passive game, are you afraid of a little bit of heat?

You seem to want to punish BKE for playing badly rather than lynch him for being scum, a scum's bread-and-butter move. In addition, your vote just looks like a blatant bandwagon on the guy currently leading the vote count, you only justified it afterwards when MajuGarzett questioned you about it 5 hours later.

I think you are scum.

##Vote: Mandalor


this is a good case and these are all things I picked up on myself when I read mandalor's posts.

I am completely fine with Mandalor and mKmKmK being lynched today.
Anyone else will take some serious convincing. For now I'm going to keep my vote on mK, but in the interest of consolidation and actually lynching someone I have a scumread on, if that lynch doesn't fly I'll push Mandalor with you.

Care to explain your train of thought? Over the course of 2 hours, you went from "probably town" to "completely fine with Mandalor lynch/scumread on Mandalor." Would like for you to articulate why you changed your read there.

Granted, one of your posts got ninjaed and so that contradiction wasn't there, but I was paying attention to what you said.
Fe fi fo fum.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
July 11 2012 18:53 GMT
#115
You guys don't take on a new identity when you smurf? No new name and ssn, you don't order a new visa card attached to your fake id nor make up a detailed backstory backdating twenty years to the amnesia you fake your fake id had when you woke up naked on a beach? AND YOU DON'T wear a fake mustache when you smurf?

You guys are so weak.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
July 11 2012 18:57 GMT
#116
On July 12 2012 03:45 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2012 03:24 wherebugsgo wrote:
On July 12 2012 03:17 gonzaw wrote:
Considering usual smurf play these last few games he'll most likely just smurf-fail and post from his real account soon after the game starts, so we'll get to know who he is.


or you're like me and you smurf in a game only to realize no one cares what you think until you claim who you are, then you get called scum based on identity

no really


Hey now.


Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 22:44 austinmcc wrote:
NoSmurf, initially I read you as one of the more sensible and townie folks in the thread. However, this caught my eye somewhat:


On July 01 2012 10:23 NoSmurfHere wrote:
You seem to sincerely believe in such terrible logic, so you're probably town. However I'm not voting BKE just because it's day 1. I don't think anything he's done or said is so far particularly scummy. At no point have I agreed with that terrible case, so why bother acknowledging that the rest of you are idiots for bandwagoning him?

On the other hand mafia lurk to shake suspicion ALL the time. mK seemingly has done exactly this, and if he's mafia certainly it's working.

So, in this case, obviously I'm far more inclined to believe that the guy who is actively trying to stop a bad lynch is town whereas the scummy lurker is not. If mK is town he has a huge incentive to address the votes on him and make a case on his scumreads rather than disappear immediately after voting. Also speculating about his status is pretty stupid when I voted for him fairly quickly after he posted.



On July 01 2012 12:38 NoSmurfHere wrote:
On July 01 2012 11:47 Adam4167 wrote:
On July 01 2012 06:40 EchelonTee wrote:
Hey Adam, remember my first game? When sephirothag or whoever crucified himself for no reason? This is the MrZentor variety of it.


I do remember that game, one of my favourites. The difference between sephirotharg and casualman is that sephiroth was trying and making errors, casualman is not even trying at all, just acting obnoxiously.

Vigs, shoot him tonight. Lets not waste a lynch and a full day cycle worth of discussion on someone who is trolling us.




On July 01 2012 10:21 Mandalor wrote:
On July 01 2012 06:25 layabout wrote:
On July 01 2012 06:10 Mandalor wrote:
On July 01 2012 01:46 MajuGarzett wrote:
On July 01 2012 01:42 Mandalor wrote:
##VOTE: BKE

I expected this game to start in like a week or sth. I'll promise to catch up with the thread and be more active beginning tomorrow.

If you're not caught up why did you vote?


I had read the first ten pages and it seemed to be the best option. Haven't changed my mind now that I'vve caught up. It's day1 tho, I don't expect a 100% surefire candidate to pop up this early.

Could you maybe share some of your decision making process?

You know, so that we can see you did more than place your vote on the guy with the most votes.


sure.

On Day1, I feel like there's only two good options for town.
a) kill a lurker
b) kill a guy that causes trouble just hours into the game

I don't like option a). Playing as mafia is fun. You hang around in a chat channel and make your plans. You're probably more busy with the chat than writing in the thread, but still... you're less likely to lurk. If the mafia is smart, they will have a couple of lurkers, but definitely not the majority so the odds of killing a town lurker is a lot higher on day1.

BKE qualifies for option b). Whether or not he's mafia, I personally don't like people in my game that use words like "scummy" judging people's first post in the game. Noone has posted enough in this game that I could possibly have built a good enough opinion on them, but apparently he can do that.
I'm not even going to address his newbie-theory.

I'm not saying I'm sure about BKE whatsoever, but he's our best option in my book.


This post stinks. You seem to be ignoring the obvious third choice for town on day 1: we lynch someone acting scummy. You're recommending we lynch BKE on the basis that you don't like people casting early judgments. This is encouraging a passive game, are you afraid of a little bit of heat?

You seem to want to punish BKE for playing badly rather than lynch him for being scum, a scum's bread-and-butter move. In addition, your vote just looks like a blatant bandwagon on the guy currently leading the vote count, you only justified it afterwards when MajuGarzett questioned you about it 5 hours later.

I think you are scum.

##Vote: Mandalor


this is a good case and these are all things I picked up on myself when I read mandalor's posts.

I am completely fine with Mandalor and mKmKmK being lynched today.
Anyone else will take some serious convincing. For now I'm going to keep my vote on mK, but in the interest of consolidation and actually lynching someone I have a scumread on, if that lynch doesn't fly I'll push Mandalor with you.

Care to explain your train of thought? Over the course of 2 hours, you went from "probably town" to "completely fine with Mandalor lynch/scumread on Mandalor." Would like for you to articulate why you changed your read there.

Granted, one of your posts got ninjaed and so that contradiction wasn't there, but I was paying attention to what you said.


this is true!

However, even when I revealed myself I had to tunnel scum for like 24 hours to get a correct wagon lol.

Enough ongoing game talk for now, though. We can discuss it in PMs if you wish :p
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
July 11 2012 19:00 GMT
#117
I'm sorry I have to do this, but /out. I don't think I'll have the time to play this in a week or so.
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you gotta dance
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 11 2012 19:08 GMT
#118
/in your graces
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
July 11 2012 19:18 GMT
#119
You know, assuming I'm experienced enough :3
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
BayonnetAnderson
Profile Joined August 2011
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 19:22:53
July 11 2012 19:22 GMT
#120
On July 12 2012 03:53 risk.nuke wrote:
You guys don't take on a new identity when you smurf? No new name and ssn, you don't order a new visa card attached to your fake id nor make up a detailed backstory backdating twenty years to the amnesia you fake your fake id had when you woke up naked on a beach? AND YOU DON'T wear a fake mustache when you smurf?

You guys are so weak.

This man has the right of it

He shall not be consumed in the fires of the pyre of damnation

Death to the heretics. Gods glory is eternal!

AMEN
"Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
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