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HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 28 2012 13:16 GMT
#4061
##Vote gonzaw

rastaban
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2294 Posts
July 28 2012 13:35 GMT
#4062

##vote Gonzaw

##vote for a 24 hours cycle today

Tyler: "...damn it, that's StarCraft. Opening doors is what we do. Being the first to find food is the greatest pleasure a player can have!"
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 14:33 GMT
#4063
Going ahead and voting Gonzaw. Don't love leaving minions with powers up, but we can be more sure, given the writing, that the message came from Gonzaw, no matter who it went to.

If there's something wonky with the other stuff, we can figure it out once we've cut off mafia communication.
Fe fi fo fum.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
July 28 2012 15:01 GMT
#4064
I'd like 24 hour days too.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 15:08 GMT
#4065
I'm good with shortened days as well, if that's an option.
Fe fi fo fum.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 28 2012 15:19 GMT
#4066
It would be better for mafia to concede rather than to drag this out. I suppose it's possible that we are wrong about one person, but I doubt it. We are definitely going to lynch gonzaw/risk/q-bert-z and there is absolutely nothing mafia can do about it.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 28 2012 15:31 GMT
#4067
they should indeed. it's getting quite boring and we already got 200 pages :D
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 28 2012 15:49 GMT
#4068
Order from town to scum, top to bottom.

11. Supersoft ---
15. syllogism ---
4. Probulous ---
7. VisceraEyes ---
12. austinmcc up
5. HiroPro ---
20. rastaban up
18. Chezinu ---
21. Mattchew ---
22. marvellosity ---
8. Bill Murray ---
27. Zealos ---
14. Katina down
23. risk.nuke down
24. Q-bert-Z down
9. Gonzaw ---

3 scum alive, 13 townies.
If you shoot 1 townie every night, you need about 5 mislynches in a row not to cut us down to a lylo situation. This would be 10 days in realtime if we shorten the days to 24 hours.
If Gonzaw is town (lol he isn't), we'll make a mass roleclaim happen tomorrow.

Your chance of winning this is 0.
Katina
Profile Joined February 2012
United States454 Posts
July 28 2012 15:59 GMT
#4069
Okay, I'm going to vote for gonzaw. Got to keep this Mafia lynching spree up.

##Vote gonzaw
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 28 2012 16:06 GMT
#4070
America.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:12 GMT
#4071
What the hell? I didn't send that message
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 28 2012 16:14 GMT
#4072
There's nothing boring about this game. I can do this all day if we have to. Lynching mafia is fun.

SO MANY SCUM TO LYNCH!! ^^
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:35 GMT
#4073
That message is obviously trying to incriminate me, there'd be no way I'd be that "obvious" as scum.
If I was scum surely I'd need only 1-2 cycles to make messages like that (that make it "obvious" it was sent by me) to minion's I'd have; I wouldn't do the same thing on D4 risking getting caught.

The message is fake, which can only mean that austin is scum, or scum have a fake-messages ability (once they are caught).
If scum have a fake-messages ability, then surely it must be from a minion, who in this case would be risk.nuke, and it was sent by the chairman, but if that was the case, then the message is a lie since it says his minion has a Broadcaster ability.

That doesn't make any sense, the only possibility is that austin is scum and is trying to incriminate both me and risk.nuke for a 2-1 trade, or 2 misslynches and then playing the "oh scum must have an ability to fake messages" card later.

It makes sense, he claims right after rastaban explained everything about his ability, saying "oh yeah my role is just like rastaban", which is too convenient. I mean, he basically caught 2 scum, yet was afraid to claim or something? Why did he wait until rastaban claimed first with, seemingly, less incriminating message than his?

His behaviour when rasta claim is inconsistent with his claim:

On July 27 2012 23:57 austinmcc wrote:
Imo either

Rasta to confirm his role (but then we lose our streak), Chez, or QbertZ.

Also, I still think the mirror rule is stupid. Really stupid and wrong. But for those that like it, even though it's wrong, if Chez is a mafia messenger then he matches up with Sandroba, and the possibility of one of the remaining mafia being one of our kingmakers is back on the table.


He wants to lynch rastaban and Chez, even though he has "conclusive evidence" that risk and me are mafia? Really?
I knew he was mafia before, I dunno why I started to think otherwise these last few days.

The message said that the scum were trying to incriminate Chezinu. This must mean austin's buddy is Chezinu, who we know received a scum message.
Makes perfect sense, Chezinu was caught so austin decided to do a desperate last-ditch attempt to save him and put the blame on others to avoid losing straight away.
If Chezinu is town, then scum have another PMing ability, which seems rather odd (town have 2 exact same abilities, yet scum only have 1 that's the same), and can't happen since that message said the minion had a Broadcaster ability and never said "PM this message to X", meaning they are different abilities if it were true.

I guess Katina is scum as well because of Chezinu's message, but to be honest I'm not fucking sure, considering both QBertz and Zealos are town, which is quite a shock to realize.

I take it nobody will believe me, but it doesn't matter. Like supersoft said, even if I'm misslynched scum can't really win.
But I never like getting misslynched at all, and was never lynched in a conventional lynch (not taking into account Bang Bang) so I'd really like people to listen to this.

On July 28 2012 23:33 austinmcc wrote:
Going ahead and voting Gonzaw. Don't love leaving minions with powers up, but we can be more sure, given the writing, that the message came from Gonzaw, no matter who it went to.

If there's something wonky with the other stuff, we can figure it out once we've cut off mafia communication.


lol are you kidding me? Didn't you just claim you checked risk.nuke?
Wouldn't you say "that message was sent to risk.nuke no matter who it was sent by" instead?

You are cracking dude, you are just trying to a misslynch as soon as possible, whether it's on risk or on me.
I guess you planned on lynching risk first, but now that I'm the popular target you switch towards me

##Vote: austin
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:39 GMT
#4074
On July 28 2012 18:13 syllogism wrote:
Gonzaw do you think the new CEO inherited the power to kill a minion they suspected to be the traitor? The flavor matches at least.


I just reread Foo's PM and it said he could use a "secret trap door" or something to instantaneously kill the traitor in the mafia team.
The flavor matches....however, MZ's death wasn't "instantaneous", it came with the Day Post.
Also, there was no other KP missing, which I think most likely means scum used their single KP on MZ, and the flavor just made it seem like scum "terminated" their traitor like the CEO would have done
Plus I don't think the Chairman of Marketing has the same ability from the CEO. I don't remember sloosh's PM (Chairman of the Board) having a similar ability.


Anyways, I'm leaving to see a movie so I think I'll be back 1-2 hours before the deadline. I hope we get some discussion going instead of blatant sheeping that will cause town to waste a complete cycle.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:41 GMT
#4075
On July 29 2012 00:49 supersoft wrote:
Order from town to scum, top to bottom.

11. Supersoft ---
15. syllogism ---
4. Probulous ---
7. VisceraEyes ---
12. austinmcc up
5. HiroPro ---
20. rastaban up
18. Chezinu ---
21. Mattchew ---
22. marvellosity ---
8. Bill Murray ---
27. Zealos ---
14. Katina down
23. risk.nuke down
24. Q-bert-Z down
9. Gonzaw ---

3 scum alive, 13 townies.
If you shoot 1 townie every night, you need about 5 mislynches in a row not to cut us down to a lylo situation. This would be 10 days in realtime if we shorten the days to 24 hours.
If Gonzaw is town (lol he isn't), we'll make a mass roleclaim happen tomorrow.

Your chance of winning this is 0.


Right, so you'll just ignore everything and start lynching from the bottom up?
Ok, tell me what happens in a Chezinu+austin+someone else scumteam....

.....that's more than 5 misslynches isn't it?

Thinking like this can lose us the game, even if we are so close to winning.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:44 GMT
#4076
Also

...we'll make a mass roleclaim happen tomorrow


That doesn't really matter if scum already claimed.
Plus I doubt there is any other confirmable town role out there.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 28 2012 16:45 GMT
#4077
Sorry but you're caught. If you flip town, then we can all bow down before whoever crafted that fake.

Quotes from the beginning of the night are no good for you, see the start of my claim where I say I'll stop playing around, and see how I spent early night asking some questions of Rasta and then of you about your reads. Was feeling out the situation, because I felt it was very unlikely i would be NKed, so I could just snoop you D5, pick up TWO messages from day and then night, and probably make sure that I had all 3 of you nailed down.

But I tend to overthink things and make them too complicated, and didn't want to do that here. Q-bert-z's mole message is so off, and his other play fits that message as well, so there was no need to wait around and find the third scum through messages, and no need to stay hidden.
Fe fi fo fum.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:48 GMT
#4078
I'm trying to figure out if austin is the chairman or another minion....
...hmmm, I guess it's more likely he's another minion. Hell, maybe he has that Broadcaster ability after all and that part of the message is true (like some parts of sloosh messages were true as well).


Although didn't sloosh claim that the chairman of marketing's team had a "snoop" as well? That may be true and is austin's role too (and he didn't fake-claim), which adds some more credibility to the "mirror theory" (the town and scum "snoops" claimed tonight).
Hmm, although seems unlikely though, but it's still a possibility. I mean, surely the CEO told sloosh the abilities of the other team as well (Foo's PM said he knew their abilities) so sloosh surely knew them.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:50 GMT
#4079
On July 29 2012 01:45 austinmcc wrote:
Sorry but you're caught. If you flip town, then we can all bow down before whoever crafted that fake.

Quotes from the beginning of the night are no good for you, see the start of my claim where I say I'll stop playing around, and see how I spent early night asking some questions of Rasta and then of you about your reads. Was feeling out the situation, because I felt it was very unlikely i would be NKed, so I could just snoop you D5, pick up TWO messages from day and then night, and probably make sure that I had all 3 of you nailed down.

But I tend to overthink things and make them too complicated, and didn't want to do that here. Q-bert-z's mole message is so off, and his other play fits that message as well, so there was no need to wait around and find the third scum through messages, and no need to stay hidden.


So you'd wait until N5, faking that "lynch rastaban and Chezinu" claim?
Would you get rastaban or Chezinu lynched on D5 too?
No, you wouldn't fake that as town, it doesn't make sense, you'd out what you got instantly, or at least not lie in the thread about your intentions
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
July 28 2012 16:50 GMT
#4080
Well whatever, I'm leaving now
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