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On July 25 2012 09:42 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 25 2012 09:38 Probulous wrote:
I have a very simple explanantion for not noticing your crumb.
Who would expect two kingmakers???
Did you VE? Considering I've been considering the probability of mirrored scum to town Power-roles, then yeah...I was pretty much expecting a second kingmaker. That's a hella powerful scum role. It removes town only real power. I highly doubt that scum minions have no idea who their managment or brethren are so giving them a kingmaker role screws over town majorly. It was partly why I was so confident in proving my alignment, I mean a scum kingmaker is pretty ridiculous.
No, actually it doesn't...it doesn't REPLACE the lynch, it adds another.
And while we're on the subject, Palmar flipped Pardoner. That's probably the sick scum role you're thinking of, and it's IN the game Prob.
But I'm not arguing with you. You're the King. And you're certainly not the lynch for today unless something incredibly crazy happens.
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On July 25 2012 06:32 marvellosity wrote:Oki doki, here are my thoughts (so you can hold me accountable, VE  ) Meapak_Ziph: Yeah, there's a high likelihood he's scum. syllogism pre-empted what I was going to say about him a couple of pages ago: + Show Spoiler +On July 25 2012 02:51 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:21 HiroPro wrote:On July 25 2012 02:18 supersoft wrote:
We are not lynching Zealos tomorrow. We lynch Meapak Explain the case to me then please. He has been very passive and his behavior near day 1 lynch deadline was quite suspicious. First he wanted to switch from BH to Gonzaw because mattchew's vote was "stuck" on gonzaw. He also stated that he was fine with lynching either BH or Gonzaw and cites Sandroba's support being one of his reasons for support gonzaw lynch. However, after the no-lynch he started the blame game in a very noncommittal manner, vaguely alluding to people responsible for the gonzaw wagon when BH and austin wagons were "well established". Now, who is responsible for Gonzaw wagon? Sandroba and Probulous, the former who is considered nearly confirmed town by this point! He also says people who "threw their vote away" are also under scrutiny, but they certainly didn't come under any scrutiny from Mr. Meapak. It's also worth nothing that Meapak hadn't voted at all until he showed up 45 minutes before the lynch when BH wagon was the dominant one. He had to vote, so he pretty much had no choice but to vote BH at the time. It doesn't get much more passive than this: Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 04:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 20 2012 04:01 HiroPro wrote:
MZ, you think Zealos is scum? I do actually. He came in, was under some pressure, and then promptly checked out once he was safe. To me that's always extremely scummy. If you were a serious lynch target you had better work your ass off to give town reason to keep you around next time. Zealos hasn't done that. Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 04:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 20 2012 04:02 Blazinghand wrote:
I think Zealos is scum! The literal non-thread-reading and utter garbage that tries to look town but isn't makes him like my #1 scumread. Well that's nice to know, I'd appreciate if you wrote out a case. You're lucky to not be dying today so I think you should make some serious contributions to give people reasons to rethink their position on you. At the time Meapak is still sure that BH is mafia (though for some reason he writes a case on Rastaban instaed), but right after saying he thinks Zealos is mafia he weakly asks BH to write a case on Zealos. Now he, just like Palmar was, is barely posting and doesn't seem to care at all. Passivity is the name of the game. I have two recent memories of Meapak playing town, that is Liar mafia and LV. In Liar Mafia Meapak was a central figure, being a part of the meapak/gonzaw/ET town circle. More pertinently, in LV he believed he had found scum in VisceraEyes, and what did he do? He made a big case and then relentlessly pushed VE until he got his lynch. We have none of this here. Here he has 'found scum' in rastaban and makes a case. Except he never pushes anyone to lynch rastaban, even though he pops up on occasion to go "yeah rastaban is still scum" and the like. Meapak is uninvested and scum. Zealos - he is scum. Again he is uninvested in the game. He doctored sandroba's message to him in addition to not bringing it to the thread originally (I'm aware Kurumi flipped town, but it is definitely anti-town...). layabout brought up how Zealos played in Bang Bang. A decent filter comparison because he replaced into both games. It seems clear to me that Zealos was much more interested and invested in the course of that game (even if he did make questionable decisions). He was quite active and at least looking for some truth. Here his filter is defending himself poorly and very little else. What is Zealos trying to do? Also the case on Hiro is bad and smells of him making an effort because he feels he finally needs to. rastaban - not quite as sure with rastaban as I am with the two above, but I think he will flip scum. Earlier in the game, MZ's case was an accurate summation of rastaban's play. He was going wherever the lynch was easiest, taking the path of least resistance. Since the time of his case, he's pinged the other way in what reads to me as an artificial attempt at pushing new/interesting ideas. He magics a townread on Kurumi on the basis that Kurumi /outs a different game, and when the sentiment was anti-Foolish he buddies up to him Show nested quote +On July 22 2012 04:57 rastaban wrote:
I was snooping through some of the experienced players filters
Syllogism is town it is pretty obvious
Foolishness I'm sorry I doubted you for a bit. I forgot last game we played together mafia's ploy was to get you lynched. I am convinced your town now so let's work together. You are posting just like you did then with distant for poor town play an focusing on finding scum. I like it!
Not sure on ggq yet, time for more research!
Chezinu and sandroba are obviously town.
BM is so different from himself he must be scum. Just the tone of how it's written feels fake. "Look! I'm being different! yay!" He also makes a bizarre case on layabout on the basis of wbg's nightkill. It was an entire case built on some wifom and fundamentally he seems to be thinking in a different way than I'd expect a townie to.
Other bits and bobs: gonzaw: I seem to have a townread on him now having looked through his filter. His posts read as genuine and earnest to me. He's had a couple of dodgy reads which I'd love to say constituted an agenda, but he never pushed the misdirection of them, so I'm not seeing it. On Katina: her filter is interesting. My question to her some pages back re:syllogism was the question mark I took out of reading her filter earlier. I'm not quite sure how she can have a null read on syllo at the moment, syllo is too prominent for this to be the case. Some of it read quite decently though with her belief of BH/Palmar being scum. Basically I'm saying I'm on the fence with her atm.
Come on Marv, you know my as mafia well enough to know being uninterested in the game isn't my mafia trait. Last time you caught me was after a day long argument after I fake claimed cop and was argumentative and emotional invested most of the time. Check out my old Newbie game for another example of this as scum.
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On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position.
No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar).
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On July 25 2012 09:44 Probulous wrote:
So essentially my actions are town, everything I have done is town but because you have the same role I am scum?
I give you Kurumi and RoL as counter evidence. Yes not exactly the same role but certainly very similar and no similar role for scum.
That's an awfully big assumption to make sir. It smack of having more information than I do, but again...stop trying to draw me into an argument.
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Yeah alright VE. I completely disagree but arguing isn't going to get us anywhere.
Tomorrow, MZ dies.
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Oooo, Choose your lynch wisely if ya don't want to get lynched yourself buddy. Aka don't lynch me.
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last time you were mafia was LV where you were really inactive and uninvolved, though
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On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position. No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar).
Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ.
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VE how long is a fair amount of time
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On July 25 2012 09:48 Probulous wrote:
Yeah alright VE. I completely disagree but arguing isn't going to get us anywhere.
Tomorrow, MZ dies.
why
none of you actually have anything against me. The case is basically an extension of Palmar repeating over and over "lynch MZ." After awhile it caught on I guess -_-.
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Twice in two pages Mattchew. Considering the amount you're posting, that's an eternity.
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On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position. No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar). Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ.
What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning.
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On July 25 2012 09:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position. No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar). Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ. What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning.
You don't trust Probulous? He's great dude, look who he chose for king yesterday.
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On July 25 2012 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position. No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar). Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ. What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning. You don't trust Probulous? He's great dude, look who he chose for king yesterday.
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On July 25 2012 09:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position. No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar). Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ. What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning.
I won't do that. Right now I am convinced but I will obviously go back an recheck my analysis. I am not stupid.
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On July 22 2012 10:01 Protactinium wrote:The newly promoted VisceraEyes has spoken! Blazinghand the Hired Hitman has been dragged to the guillotine and executed for his crimes.Show nested quote +Hired hit man (dreamflower)
You are an evil, evil, bureaucrat, employed in human resources. The ruthless and efficient company managers wish to promote efficiency and productivity...by killing their most unproductive employees! Luckily you are the man for the job. Once per game, you may assassinate a fellow employee by poisoning the office coffee machine. But there's a catch: if you accidentally kill an innocent civilian employee, the comapny will betray you and deny that you ever worked for them, forcing you to jump off the building to avoid a trial (commit suicide). On the other hand, if you manage to poison a company employee (mafia), your boss will arrange to have the company lawyer blame it on a crazed Occupy Wall Street protestor and reward you with your coworker's (quite generous) pension (in others words, live and look awesome). Naturally, you do not have to use your power.
You win with the mafia and report to the Chairman of the Board.
Here is the green town pm for your information:
Entrepeneurial employee
You are an entrepeneurial and innovative employee. Although you have no special power or authority, you are a lively and hard working employee. Fortunately, the evil bureaucrats haven't tried to stifle your creativity...yet. You win with the town.
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On July 25 2012 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 09:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 25 2012 09:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On July 25 2012 09:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Then why was BH a better lynch than Kurumi D1? And why was Palmar the "obvious" lynch D3 considering your "super-read" on rasta? Nope, not buying it MZ. I appreciate the effort of your defense though, it's more than I can say for others in your position. No, now you're being thick. I was out most of the latter part of d1 (hence my late vote) I dealt with the situation in the thread when I got there. Not only that, but my read on rastaban d1 was still in it's infancy, I didn't even post a proper case until d2. Palmar was obvious because of his interactions with foolishness like I said, also his all around shitty play didn't help at all. I don't think I ever used the phrase "super-read" lol, I do think rastaban is scum but as I said previously, our lynches have all been used on people who I would consider practically confirmed scum due to circumstances in the thread. Regarding rastaban, I've been the only one on him, while I trust my analysis skills, I'm not going to try and lynch someone on my analysis over someone who's all but claimed scum (kurumi) or was just implicated by the flipped scum CEO (palmar). Then I'm sure you have nothing to worry about MZ. What I am concerned about is someone pulling a lone ranger act and shooting me without warning. You don't trust Probulous? He's great dude, look who he chose for king yesterday.
oops EBWOP:
Oh I think he's town but I don't want him to do anything hasty.
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Sick Burn 
Speaking of when is deadline? I thought it was an hour ago 
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I posted at what I thought was deadline.
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On July 25 2012 09:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Twice in two pages Mattchew. Considering the amount you're posting, that's an eternity.
So 2 outta my ~150 posts?... And it was for about an hour before I realized how rash I was being and how my logic was wrong...
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