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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#2341
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
July 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#2342
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!


They have the best powers, communication
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 20 2012 22:30 GMT
#2343
OMG syllo SAVED ME from VE's push that would CERTAINLY get me lynch instead of kurumi. I am thankful.
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2012 22:31 GMT
#2344
On July 21 2012 07:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!


They have the best powers, communication


If they die, someone else will take their spot, no?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 22:32 GMT
#2345
You should be..I was comin with a FURY bro. He should be confTown to you now right?

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 20 2012 22:33 GMT
#2346
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!
You're quoting me, so I assume I'm part of "you guys"

(1) I didn't move my vote. I want to lynch kurumi (conditional sorry, if you're town, kurumi!)
(2) We are the 99%
(3) I'm unsure yet if I like the idea of focusing executives or focusing minions. There's definitely a tradeoff between powers and communication. I've not been part of this Operation: CEObliterate.

Fe fi fo fum.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
July 20 2012 22:35 GMT
#2347
Btw I had already used my message, but I'm not sure protact delivered it yet. I'm waiting to see if the person claims otherwise I will have to buss all my 3 minions. Shit whatever shall I do next?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 22:36 GMT
#2348
Claim RB imo imo
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 20 2012 22:37 GMT
#2349
On July 21 2012 07:31 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!


They have the best powers, communication


If they die, someone else will take their spot, no?


no. you're right

"@Syllo- Current format is everyone sends in their choice to hosts by days end and CEO picks one from the list. Might tweak this a bit. If CEO dies, the decision power will go to one of the executives (in a certain order). If all 3 executives die, one or two minions may have the power to decide..If all possible decision makers die, it will be made by vote with priority on popularity and then who sent it in first. If anyone has suggestions for this feel free."

seems like the communicationpower won't switch to someone else. cool.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 20 2012 22:49 GMT
#2350
On July 21 2012 07:30 sandroba wrote:
OMG syllo SAVED ME from VE's push that would CERTAINLY get me lynch instead of kurumi. I am thankful.

lol, your funny! Its the same reason I've voting for you! boy that guy is SILLY!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 20 2012 22:52 GMT
#2351
On July 21 2012 07:37 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 07:31 supersoft wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:30 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:30 supersoft wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:28 austinmcc wrote:
On July 21 2012 07:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
I want to eliminate Executives. I think Sandroba is the Director of Marketing or the Chairman of the Board.

And Austinmcc isn't bad. He's paranoid, and now I am too.


+ Show Spoiler +
hatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshatshats!hats!hats!


why do you guys even want to eleminate executives. I thought they have no powers?!


They have the best powers, communication


If they die, someone else will take their spot, no?


no. you're right

"@Syllo- Current format is everyone sends in their choice to hosts by days end and CEO picks one from the list. Might tweak this a bit. If CEO dies, the decision power will go to one of the executives (in a certain order). If all 3 executives die, one or two minions may have the power to decide..If all possible decision makers die, it will be made by vote with priority on popularity and then who sent it in first. If anyone has suggestions for this feel free."

seems like the communicationpower won't switch to someone else. cool.


how do you know this? Where does it say that in the rules? Do you gotz extra info?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 22:54 GMT
#2352
Uh oh...Chez you naughty boy did you not read the OP or subsequent player questions?

For shame. And to think, you were on the list of potentials for promotion. *tsktsk*
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 20 2012 22:57 GMT
#2353
On July 21 2012 07:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
Uh oh...Chez you naughty boy did you not read the OP or subsequent player questions?

For shame. And to think, you were on the list of potentials for promotion. *tsktsk*

Just search my post and you will find that I don't read the rules of the game until I'm in it typically. Skimming it now but don't see it. Wait a minute.. how did you know this information?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 22:58 GMT
#2354
On July 21 2012 06:19 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kurumi was a piss-poor choice, as Probulous pointed out. Kurumi was likely to pretend to be mafia regardless of his alignment as far as I'm concerned, so that makes that particular choice terrible.

Zealos was decent IF HE WAS LOOKING FOR MINIONS...but Sandro has been onboard with Operation: CEObliterate since inception...it doesn't make sense that he'd try and fool ZEALOS if he's hunting for Executives.


But he has to hit minions, scum already has a code in place to verify the messages. so he has to hit people not contacted yet.

I agree Kurumi as a personality was a bad choice as he would go along with it, but as a tactical choice it was the best as it wouldn't be an exec as it had used a power in a questionable way.


This is an interesting development.

Anyone wanna verify what I'm seeing here?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7448 Posts
July 20 2012 22:59 GMT
#2355
On July 06 2012 09:28 Protactinium wrote:
Semi updated signup list (with those that I know). Will figure out the rest when Incognito is here. I don't think either of us have been active enough lately to follow games. If you are a newer player and want to get in feel free to send a pm stating your experiences so far and why.

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 16:51 Oberyn wrote:
If the Chairman of the Board dies, does the CEO communicate directly with his Minions?
Also, what are the exact restrictions on their communications? They can't communicate downwards names of fellow mafia (the Chairman can't tell each Minion the identity of their "brothers"), but they can state names of townies and stuff right? Is there a limit with that as well? Since if one mentions a lot of townies, they will find out who their buddies are by process of elimination


I may join after I finish all my tests (if this is still in the signup phase), which will be by Thursday.


Also, I wonder what would happen if the CEO's orders contradict that of what the Chairman (for instance) knows?
Like the CEO tells him "try to get player X killed", but player X is one of the Chairman's minions or something


Not 100% on this atm but currently the rule is they can't give absolute statements, just orders. i,e no 'players x y z are not mafia, get them killed,' just, 'harass player x.' If they are blatant about trying to give out teammates then they'll be censored. Given enough time executives might figure out ways to smuggle information past the censors but it won't be without risk. There may be other mechanics in place to interfere with such play if it is tried.

There are redundancy factors in place for communication once someone dies but they will be less than normal. In normal games the town wants to prioritize certain mafia to eliminate powers (especially in PYP games) or reduce kp. As eliminating mafia will not reduce kp here, the focus should be geared at disrupting communication by removing the executives.


Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Will those at the top of the scum hierarchy know the powers of those at the bottom?


They will know what exists, not who has what.
.
@Syllo- Current format is everyone sends in their choice to hosts by days end and CEO picks one from the list. Might tweak this a bit. If CEO dies, the decision power will go to one of the executives (in a certain order). If all 3 executives die, one or two minions may have the power to decide..If all possible decision makers die, it will be made by vote with priority on popularity and then who sent it in first. If anyone has suggestions for this feel free.

ok, I found it...
lol, clueless in The Prism!
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 23:01 GMT
#2356
On July 02 2012 16:07 Protactinium wrote:
Extra Information:
The mafia kill process goes like this:
Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
July 20 2012 23:03 GMT
#2357
On July 21 2012 08:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2012 16:07 Protactinium wrote:
Extra Information:
The mafia kill process goes like this:
Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline.


he was talking about the process if the CEO dies, which is not mentioned there
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 20 2012 23:06 GMT
#2358
On July 21 2012 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2012 06:19 rastaban wrote:
On July 21 2012 06:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Kurumi was a piss-poor choice, as Probulous pointed out. Kurumi was likely to pretend to be mafia regardless of his alignment as far as I'm concerned, so that makes that particular choice terrible.

Zealos was decent IF HE WAS LOOKING FOR MINIONS...but Sandro has been onboard with Operation: CEObliterate since inception...it doesn't make sense that he'd try and fool ZEALOS if he's hunting for Executives.


But he has to hit minions, scum already has a code in place to verify the messages. so he has to hit people not contacted yet.

I agree Kurumi as a personality was a bad choice as he would go along with it, but as a tactical choice it was the best as it wouldn't be an exec as it had used a power in a questionable way.


This is an interesting development.

Anyone wanna verify what I'm seeing here?


Guys this is relevant. Read the bolded statement in the quote please - it's important.

Rastaban just scumslipped heavily. HEAVILY.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 20 2012 23:11 GMT
#2359
Rastaban, mind explaining?
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 20 2012 23:20 GMT
#2360
rofl VE, I'll just leave you and sandroba to this.
Computer says mafia
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