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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 30 2012 20:15 GMT
#841
On July 01 2012 05:12 Oberyn wrote:
@Zealos: I think he's talking about Greymist (he's defending Greymist there, not himself)

Wait, really? What the fuck....
This is so weird. We never treated Grey as that scummy? (I never really did read that much on the start of the game so I can't be sure)
I don't understand this at all. Since when was giving up a town trait?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 30 2012 20:17 GMT
#842
On July 01 2012 05:14 Oberyn wrote:
Also Greymist what's with you continuously insulting me? You did that even in iGrok's game

Seriously dude, not cool.

If your brother feels bad or something from this game...then I apologize. But from what I remember he only made 1 post and we mentioned him only a few amount of times, so why would he feel like shit like you are implying?


Im annoyed.

And he doesnt "feel like shit". I said that I am ashamed, not he. We also collaborate with our posts instead of posting seperatly. We live together over the summer.

Risk.Nuke also, like you, tried to get me killed in almost every game I have been in with him. He encorperated extreme tunneling, and posted sooooooooooooooooooo much.

I have a problem with the way you approch this game. Thats all. No insults, no calling you a "moron" or anything.

You are just wrong
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Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 20:26 GMT
#843
On July 01 2012 05:14 GreYMisT wrote:
Oberyn use this after you recover from the shock of being wrong:

Here is your case on strongandbig but better.

Consider me confirmed town. Why would a player start defending a town player? if he is scum he is defending me becuase he wants to get associated with defending townies, if he is town its because he's smart. Simple right?

consider his case now. At the moment he is backing off of defending me, but still saying "I understand his POV" and stuff. Why would town do this? idk. Why would scum do this? Because He realizes that Defending me is not working out so well from a "gain town cred" point of view after I stopped caring. He is gaining nothing. In none of these posts has he directed anything towards me. In none of them has he tried to get me to post more. All he has done is try to empatize with me. This is scum behavior.

Thats how it is done Gonzaw



Hmmm....

His interactions with you are weird no matter what, even if you flip scum or town, that's for sure.
His last post was a mess, him doing that "I understand Greymist because he has a little brother and is frustrated......oh but I still think he's suspicious for some stupid reason I made like 2 days ago, also now I'm attacking him, but wait no I won't mention Greymist again I'll tunnel Zealos" act is suspicious no matter what you/Zealos are (well....I seriously doubt him and Zealos are scumbuddies though).


Oberyn use this after you recover from the shock of being wrong:


What shock?

If you were to be town then there's nothing to be shocked about...you were town.
I know I can get bad reads in games, nothing is 100% set in stone. iGrok's game showed me that as well, where I had to constantly be changing my reads.
I don't know why you are acting with so much resent like you are hoping I die or something.

If you are really town, then you are doing nothing to prove it to me.
You think S&B and Mattchew are scum? Push them then, don't just "give up" or do whatever the hell you are doing (I seriously don't know what the hell you are doing).
I haven't used my 8/8 beast and Nova hasn't either, no townie has died yet, I don't know why you think we "already lost" and you think "I'm a lost cause" or something, wtf?
I changed my read on you in iGrok's game for better, did that show you nothing at all?

If you are town then convince me to attack S&B instead of you tomorrow (well.....killing S&B first wouldn't be bad either way, even if you are scumbuddies)


I don't understand why you didn't change your attack on Zealos though (I still don't know if we can change our attacks or not).
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
June 30 2012 20:27 GMT
#844
On July 01 2012 05:26 Oberyn wrote:
(I still don't know if we can change our attacks or not).

Until the deadline of the Attack Phase, you can.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 20:36 GMT
#845
On July 01 2012 05:17 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:14 Oberyn wrote:
Also Greymist what's with you continuously insulting me? You did that even in iGrok's game

Seriously dude, not cool.

If your brother feels bad or something from this game...then I apologize. But from what I remember he only made 1 post and we mentioned him only a few amount of times, so why would he feel like shit like you are implying?


Im annoyed.

And he doesnt "feel like shit". I said that I am ashamed, not he. We also collaborate with our posts instead of posting seperatly. We live together over the summer.

Risk.Nuke also, like you, tried to get me killed in almost every game I have been in with him. He encorperated extreme tunneling, and posted sooooooooooooooooooo much.

I have a problem with the way you approch this game. Thats all. No insults, no calling you a "moron" or anything.

You are just wrong


What exactly do you mean here? What approach are you talking about?
Also what was up with that Promethelax shit you made the other day? Did you mean it? Did you want to do something with it?


Thats all. No insults, no calling you a "moron" or anything.


You are saying you feel ashamed for that your brother has to be in this game and you attribute that as my fault....that's an insult as far as I know.



Anyways, killing both Greymist and S&B wouldn't be bad tomorrow, maybe me+Nova should target each and get their HP reduced equally.
S&B is "still suspicious" of Greymist and now attacks him...so I guess he would be fine attacking Grey next turn right?
Grey now is making some sense (why the hell he started doing that now and not before escapes my grasps) and thinks S&B is scum, so he wouldn't mind attacking S&B tomorrow right?


So me+Nova attack Greymist+S&B, Greymist attacks S&B, S&B attacks Greymist; everybody attacks both of them. Since both Grey+S&B use their monsters to attack they won't block, meaning their monsters won't be lost, plus we can attack their HP directly.
Hopefully we kill both of them at the same time, and either both flip scum and we win or (something I'm kind of wondering right now) Grey flips town...but S&B flips scum.

....I'm trying to see a scenario where both are town (or S&B is town) and I can't figure it out, so maybe this should be a good idea


What do you guys think?
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 30 2012 20:39 GMT
#846
On July 01 2012 05:36 Oberyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:17 GreYMisT wrote:
On July 01 2012 05:14 Oberyn wrote:
Also Greymist what's with you continuously insulting me? You did that even in iGrok's game

Seriously dude, not cool.

If your brother feels bad or something from this game...then I apologize. But from what I remember he only made 1 post and we mentioned him only a few amount of times, so why would he feel like shit like you are implying?


Im annoyed.

And he doesnt "feel like shit". I said that I am ashamed, not he. We also collaborate with our posts instead of posting seperatly. We live together over the summer.

Risk.Nuke also, like you, tried to get me killed in almost every game I have been in with him. He encorperated extreme tunneling, and posted sooooooooooooooooooo much.

I have a problem with the way you approch this game. Thats all. No insults, no calling you a "moron" or anything.

You are just wrong


What exactly do you mean here? What approach are you talking about?
Also what was up with that Promethelax shit you made the other day? Did you mean it? Did you want to do something with it?


Show nested quote +
Thats all. No insults, no calling you a "moron" or anything.


You are saying you feel ashamed for that your brother has to be in this game and you attribute that as my fault....that's an insult as far as I know.



Anyways, killing both Greymist and S&B wouldn't be bad tomorrow, maybe me+Nova should target each and get their HP reduced equally.
S&B is "still suspicious" of Greymist and now attacks him...so I guess he would be fine attacking Grey next turn right?
Grey now is making some sense (why the hell he started doing that now and not before escapes my grasps) and thinks S&B is scum, so he wouldn't mind attacking S&B tomorrow right?


So me+Nova attack Greymist+S&B, Greymist attacks S&B, S&B attacks Greymist; everybody attacks both of them. Since both Grey+S&B use their monsters to attack they won't block, meaning their monsters won't be lost, plus we can attack their HP directly.
Hopefully we kill both of them at the same time, and either both flip scum and we win or (something I'm kind of wondering right now) Grey flips town...but S&B flips scum.

....I'm trying to see a scenario where both are town (or S&B is town) and I can't figure it out, so maybe this should be a good idea


What do you guys think?

I'm perfectly happy. I just really hope they do turn up as mafia. I'm imagining a situation with you, fulla, and WBG as scum and it makes me cry
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Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 20:39 GMT
#847
Seriously though Greymist, I'm disappointed that you feel like that about me and about this game
(hopefully you are scum and you are faking all that)
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 20:58 GMT
#848
Okay, I'm trying to calculate our total damage for next turn to see if we can kill both Grey+S&B.

Grey currently has 19 HP, but he's being attacked by WBG's Hovermyr, Fulla's Lavamancer and S&B's Festering Goblin, that means:

Grey's HP next turn: 16
S&B's HP next turn: 20

Possible damage:

Grey:
Winged Silver: 1
Necrotic Silver: 2

Total: 3

S&B:
Festering Goblin: 1
Nantuko Husk: 2

Total: 3

or

Sacrifice Goblin to give husk +2/+2
Nantuko Husk: 4

Total: 4

Oberyn:
Clone: 8

Total: 8

Nova:
Tap 2 Forest, put +2/+2 on Basking RootWallia
Fauna Shaman: 1
Basking RootWallia: 4
Avatar of Might: 8

Total: 13

Mattchew:
Golbin Lackey: 1
Goblin Warlord: X (I guess 2?)

Total: 1+X

WBG:
Hovemyr: 1
Myr Sevitor: 1
Myr Enforcer: 4

Total: 6

Fulla:
Cast Ball Lightning
Grim Lavamancer: 1
Ball Lightning: 6

Total: 7

Prome:
Goldmeadow Harrier: 1

Total: 1


Total damage: 42+X/43+X (from Mattchew's Warlord)


Since Grey's plus S&B's combined HP is 36, that means we have extra 6+X/7+X damage to attack someone else in case one of Grey/S&B is town.

So yes, it's possible to kill both Greymist and S&B next turn.

What do you guys think of this?
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:00 GMT
#849
Of course that's not taking into account any other cards you guys play, nor taking into account the next Global Enchantment.

For instance, if we can somehow give Fulla 9 mana (maybe another similar enchantment as last turn's), then he can cast both Electropotency, Ball Lightning and use Electropotency's ability to cast an additional 6 damage.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:01 GMT
#850
On July 01 2012 05:44 Zealos wrote:
##Block with Phyrexian Walker
What is that effect all about? D:


lol
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 30 2012 21:03 GMT
#851
On July 01 2012 05:26 Oberyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 05:14 GreYMisT wrote:
Oberyn use this after you recover from the shock of being wrong:

Here is your case on strongandbig but better.

Consider me confirmed town. Why would a player start defending a town player? if he is scum he is defending me becuase he wants to get associated with defending townies, if he is town its because he's smart. Simple right?

consider his case now. At the moment he is backing off of defending me, but still saying "I understand his POV" and stuff. Why would town do this? idk. Why would scum do this? Because He realizes that Defending me is not working out so well from a "gain town cred" point of view after I stopped caring. He is gaining nothing. In none of these posts has he directed anything towards me. In none of them has he tried to get me to post more. All he has done is try to empatize with me. This is scum behavior.

Thats how it is done Gonzaw



Hmmm....

His interactions with you are weird no matter what, even if you flip scum or town, that's for sure.
His last post was a mess, him doing that "I understand Greymist because he has a little brother and is frustrated......oh but I still think he's suspicious for some stupid reason I made like 2 days ago, also now I'm attacking him, but wait no I won't mention Greymist again I'll tunnel Zealos" act is suspicious no matter what you/Zealos are (well....I seriously doubt him and Zealos are scumbuddies though).


Show nested quote +
Oberyn use this after you recover from the shock of being wrong:


What shock?

If you were to be town then there's nothing to be shocked about...you were town.
I know I can get bad reads in games, nothing is 100% set in stone. iGrok's game showed me that as well, where I had to constantly be changing my reads.
I don't know why you are acting with so much resent like you are hoping I die or something.

If you are really town, then you are doing nothing to prove it to me.
You think S&B and Mattchew are scum? Push them then, don't just "give up" or do whatever the hell you are doing (I seriously don't know what the hell you are doing).
I haven't used my 8/8 beast and Nova hasn't either, no townie has died yet, I don't know why you think we "already lost" and you think "I'm a lost cause" or something, wtf?
I changed my read on you in iGrok's game for better, did that show you nothing at all?

If you are town then convince me to attack S&B instead of you tomorrow (well.....killing S&B first wouldn't be bad either way, even if you are scumbuddies)


I don't understand why you didn't change your attack on Zealos though (I still don't know if we can change our attacks or not).


You just going to ignore what I said about S&B?
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Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:03 GMT
#852
Of course Grey, if you really are town you can convince us to kill S&B+the other scumbuddy (you say it's Mattchew?), so we instantly win the game


If you are town Grey, then you can win us the game tomorrow so stop acting like if we already lost and start playing.
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:05 GMT
#853
On July 01 2012 06:03 GreYMisT wrote:
You just going to ignore what I said about S&B?


No

....???
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:07 GMT
#854
Greymist, what do you think of us killing you+S&B tomorrow....and maybe attack Mattchew for 7 damage or something like that?
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:08 GMT
#855
We could win the game next turn! Come on guys!



....damn I'm getting overexcited again
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
Oberyn
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom508 Posts
June 30 2012 21:10 GMT
#856
Also it's possible S&B comes back, and says something like "No no I think Greymist is town now so we shouldn't follow the plan, we should kill Zealos instead!" and not follow the plan (i.e not attack Greymist)...

...he only has 3/4 potential damage so it doesn't change the greater scheme anyways
Oberyn was ever the viper. Deadly, dangerous, unpredictable. No man dared tread on him.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
June 30 2012 21:16 GMT
#857
I already said kill me, and I made a case on S&B. Of course I'm Ok with it.

Stop talking about how "overexcited" you are. It serves no purpose
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strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2012 21:18 GMT
#858
This is ridiculous.

Zealos is scum, how can you guys not realize this?

Oberyn, you're missing something. If grey and I were really the last mafia, would we really let you kill us both and win the game? Herpderp.

And what is it that greymist said that suddenly makes you think mattchew is more likely to be scum than zealos?
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#859
There are nine players. Mafia have enough damage to kill a player over this turn and the next. If you kill both of us and we turn out to both be town, it will be 4v2.
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
June 30 2012 21:23 GMT
#860
And greymist will you fucking answer my case? Anyone who has played enough magic should know instantly upon reading this setup that town loses if it's played as a normal multiplayer magic game. Why the fuck didn't you see that or if you did why did you still push it?
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