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Okay I can't do shit....although I can PM Artanis to block anything with my Clone, but I think I'll be here for the Block phase.
So, I think we should kill Greymist, at least S&B is trying right now, Grey just doesn't care.
If we have any plans then better.
Prome can tap his Harrier and tap Grey's Necrotic Silver.
Mathew can attack him as well (if Grey doesn't block Matt's attack Matt will still get his warlord)
Same for S&B, Fulla and WB-G I think they can all attack him.
Any other strategies are welcomed.
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Greymist if you are going to do anything this phase I recommend you attack Zealos with your Necrotic Silver.
Call that attack soon.
It makes perfect sense from your POV, you think he's scum, so attack him.
Zealos if Grey attacks you with his Necrotic Silver block with your useless 0/2 creatures so we take them out of the game (I think I already said this but they are useless).
That way we don't need to waste Prome's Harrier (so he can attack with it as well).
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On June 30 2012 07:00 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 06:46 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 06:33 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 06:26 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 05:49 Nova_Terra wrote:You know what? I agree with both greymists and s&b's points on zealos and zealos' points on them, and have no idea what to do. If I didn't still have my pride, I would ask oberyn to tell me what to do  Thoughts/advice? What points has Zealos made against me that you agree with? These are the points I see against me in his filter: Zealos said:
Saw this. Didn't bother reading the rest. Stop being retarded please you scummy scum scum.
You're hilariously scummy. Luckily if I can survive a few days I can kill you, as my deck basically functions as a one hit vig.
Also, I gave you 3 mana when I realised it made no difference to me if I did or not, as Ob looks town to me. Also, why would I /not/ start talking after people try to kill me? You can make nearly anything suit your "case" on me, when in reality you just want an easy target to avoid people pointing out what a pile of red you are. Also, I'm done posting for the rest of the day. I'm irritated at life, and it will translate as me shouting and swearing at people for be so naive stupid and tunnelvisioned.
Why do you ignore the question about Grey? Why are you not attacking him?
I mean, cmon S&B, seriously? A scumslip? That's the best you can do? It's a joke of a case and you know it. The downright delusion you showcase by continuing to defend it shows just how scummy you are.
My filter was bad because I barely posted and lurked. You on the other hand are still pushing one of the worst cases I have ever seen.
And everyone called me fucking scum. Stop making such ridiculous points. You could use that argument against LITERALLY everyone and you KNOW IT. You are desperate.
Can you answer why you make a point about me using the fact I attack people who attacked me, even though nearly everyone had attacked me?
Then can you finally back down from the awful case about my "scumslip"
Then can you search for an actual scum player? Which of these do you consider a valid "point"? Here's what I see in here: -Zealos asserts my case on him is bad, no less than five times. 1.-He asks why I'm not attacking Grey 2.-He says that everyone called him scum so my point that he only attacked people for calling him scum rather than for playing scummily is invalid. 3.I answered why I didn't want to attack Grey in my big wall of text as well as elsewhere: it's because I think Zealos is more likely scum. Grey's filter seems low on content but that could just as well be because he was genuinely pissed off at Gonzaw's spam and all the random attacks on him, or it could be because he's scum. He is right that everyone called him scum, but I'm right when I say that he never attacked anyone for any reason other than that they called him scum. 4. It's like he only cares about discrediting the cases against him, not actually for finding scum. Even if you agree with him that the cases against him are bad (which I don't think anyone does) 5., townies make bad cases too, you need more to establish why someone with a bad case is scum. 6. This is shocking. Let me show you why, in easy to understand steps. 1. Yes, I make your case on me look stupid. How is that scummy? 2. Because of your refusal to answer. Is Ob scum too? 3. Which it was. Again, defending myself legitimately, dunno where the problem is yet... 4. He is a poor statement, backed up with no evidence, as an attempt to legitimize his awful point on me about attacking those who makes cases against me (everyone) 5. They are bad, they consist of me not having enough content early on, which is, as I've explained in other games, and in a scumqt once, I can't handle the start of the game. Too much random shit going on. 6. The fact you continue to push so heavily after your case is shown to be a load of bs. Anything else?  Yeah except you didn't show my case to be untrue, because it's correct. You still haven't posted any analysis on anything except the cases on you. Your posting style and post count changed drastically once you got accused. etcetera. All of those points you made rely on the case on you being bad. I don't think there is anyone who agrees with you that it is a bad case. But I literally went through every point you made and explained why it's wrong. Also, pushing Ob as scum because he "defends me so hard" is the most stupid shit I've read. He said he has a small gut feeling. You're fighting a losing war and making yourself look silly while you do it.
Where did you do this?
And don't tell me it's things like when you just asserted you are town, or said that your lurking wasn't scummy. I mean reasons why my interpretation of your filter or of your "suicide" post are wrong other than you just asserting that they are wrong.
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On June 30 2012 07:01 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 06:46 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 06:33 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 06:26 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 05:49 Nova_Terra wrote:You know what? I agree with both greymists and s&b's points on zealos and zealos' points on them, and have no idea what to do. If I didn't still have my pride, I would ask oberyn to tell me what to do Thoughts/advice? What points has Zealos made against me that you agree with? These are the points I see against me in his filter: Zealos said:
Saw this. Didn't bother reading the rest. Stop being retarded please you scummy scum scum.
You're hilariously scummy. Luckily if I can survive a few days I can kill you, as my deck basically functions as a one hit vig.
Also, I gave you 3 mana when I realised it made no difference to me if I did or not, as Ob looks town to me. Also, why would I /not/ start talking after people try to kill me? You can make nearly anything suit your "case" on me, when in reality you just want an easy target to avoid people pointing out what a pile of red you are. Also, I'm done posting for the rest of the day. I'm irritated at life, and it will translate as me shouting and swearing at people for be so naive stupid and tunnelvisioned.
Why do you ignore the question about Grey? Why are you not attacking him?
I mean, cmon S&B, seriously? A scumslip? That's the best you can do? It's a joke of a case and you know it. The downright delusion you showcase by continuing to defend it shows just how scummy you are.
My filter was bad because I barely posted and lurked. You on the other hand are still pushing one of the worst cases I have ever seen.
And everyone called me fucking scum. Stop making such ridiculous points. You could use that argument against LITERALLY everyone and you KNOW IT. You are desperate.
Can you answer why you make a point about me using the fact I attack people who attacked me, even though nearly everyone had attacked me?
Then can you finally back down from the awful case about my "scumslip"
Then can you search for an actual scum player? Which of these do you consider a valid "point"? Here's what I see in here: -Zealos asserts my case on him is bad, no less than five times. 1.-He asks why I'm not attacking Grey 2.-He says that everyone called him scum so my point that he only attacked people for calling him scum rather than for playing scummily is invalid. 3.I answered why I didn't want to attack Grey in my big wall of text as well as elsewhere: it's because I think Zealos is more likely scum. Grey's filter seems low on content but that could just as well be because he was genuinely pissed off at Gonzaw's spam and all the random attacks on him, or it could be because he's scum. He is right that everyone called him scum, but I'm right when I say that he never attacked anyone for any reason other than that they called him scum. 4. It's like he only cares about discrediting the cases against him, not actually for finding scum. Even if you agree with him that the cases against him are bad (which I don't think anyone does) 5., townies make bad cases too, you need more to establish why someone with a bad case is scum. 6. This is shocking. Let me show you why, in easy to understand steps. 1. Yes, I make your case on me look stupid. How is that scummy? 2. Because of your refusal to answer. Is Ob scum too? 3. Which it was. Again, defending myself legitimately, dunno where the problem is yet... 4. He is a poor statement, backed up with no evidence, as an attempt to legitimize his awful point on me about attacking those who makes cases against me (everyone) 5. They are bad, they consist of me not having enough content early on, which is, as I've explained in other games, and in a scumqt once, I can't handle the start of the game. Too much random shit going on. 6. The fact you continue to push so heavily after your case is shown to be a load of bs. Anything else? Your posting style and post count changed drastically once you got accused. etcetera. All of those points you made rely on the case on you being bad. I don't think there is anyone who agrees with you that it is a bad case. Correct. You know yours did too. Subtle scumclaim?
I was interested in the game and in pushing a town agenda before. I still am.
You didn't give a fuck until you got accused.
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On June 30 2012 07:15 Oberyn wrote:
Greymist if you are going to do anything this phase I recommend you attack Zealos with your Necrotic Silver.
Call that attack soon.
It makes perfect sense from your POV, you think he's scum, so attack him.
Zealos if Grey attacks you with his Necrotic Silver block with your useless 0/2 creatures so we take them out of the game (I think I already said this but they are useless).
That way we don't need to waste Prome's Harrier (so he can attack with it as well).
I think the necrotic sliver has summoning sickness, grey can probably only attack with the necrotic sliver.
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On June 30 2012 07:16 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 07:00 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 06:46 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 06:33 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 06:26 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 05:49 Nova_Terra wrote:You know what? I agree with both greymists and s&b's points on zealos and zealos' points on them, and have no idea what to do. If I didn't still have my pride, I would ask oberyn to tell me what to do Thoughts/advice? What points has Zealos made against me that you agree with? These are the points I see against me in his filter: Zealos said:
Saw this. Didn't bother reading the rest. Stop being retarded please you scummy scum scum.
You're hilariously scummy. Luckily if I can survive a few days I can kill you, as my deck basically functions as a one hit vig.
Also, I gave you 3 mana when I realised it made no difference to me if I did or not, as Ob looks town to me. Also, why would I /not/ start talking after people try to kill me? You can make nearly anything suit your "case" on me, when in reality you just want an easy target to avoid people pointing out what a pile of red you are. Also, I'm done posting for the rest of the day. I'm irritated at life, and it will translate as me shouting and swearing at people for be so naive stupid and tunnelvisioned.
Why do you ignore the question about Grey? Why are you not attacking him?
I mean, cmon S&B, seriously? A scumslip? That's the best you can do? It's a joke of a case and you know it. The downright delusion you showcase by continuing to defend it shows just how scummy you are.
My filter was bad because I barely posted and lurked. You on the other hand are still pushing one of the worst cases I have ever seen.
And everyone called me fucking scum. Stop making such ridiculous points. You could use that argument against LITERALLY everyone and you KNOW IT. You are desperate.
Can you answer why you make a point about me using the fact I attack people who attacked me, even though nearly everyone had attacked me?
Then can you finally back down from the awful case about my "scumslip"
Then can you search for an actual scum player? Which of these do you consider a valid "point"? Here's what I see in here: -Zealos asserts my case on him is bad, no less than five times. 1.-He asks why I'm not attacking Grey 2.-He says that everyone called him scum so my point that he only attacked people for calling him scum rather than for playing scummily is invalid. 3.I answered why I didn't want to attack Grey in my big wall of text as well as elsewhere: it's because I think Zealos is more likely scum. Grey's filter seems low on content but that could just as well be because he was genuinely pissed off at Gonzaw's spam and all the random attacks on him, or it could be because he's scum. He is right that everyone called him scum, but I'm right when I say that he never attacked anyone for any reason other than that they called him scum. 4. It's like he only cares about discrediting the cases against him, not actually for finding scum. Even if you agree with him that the cases against him are bad (which I don't think anyone does) 5., townies make bad cases too, you need more to establish why someone with a bad case is scum. 6. This is shocking. Let me show you why, in easy to understand steps. 1. Yes, I make your case on me look stupid. How is that scummy? 2. Because of your refusal to answer. Is Ob scum too? 3. Which it was. Again, defending myself legitimately, dunno where the problem is yet... 4. He is a poor statement, backed up with no evidence, as an attempt to legitimize his awful point on me about attacking those who makes cases against me (everyone) 5. They are bad, they consist of me not having enough content early on, which is, as I've explained in other games, and in a scumqt once, I can't handle the start of the game. Too much random shit going on. 6. The fact you continue to push so heavily after your case is shown to be a load of bs. Anything else? Yeah except you didn't show my case to be untrue, because it's correct. You still haven't posted any analysis on anything except the cases on you. Your posting style and post count changed drastically once you got accused. etcetera. All of those points you made rely on the case on you being bad. I don't think there is anyone who agrees with you that it is a bad case. But I literally went through every point you made and explained why it's wrong. Also, pushing Ob as scum because he "defends me so hard" is the most stupid shit I've read. He said he has a small gut feeling. You're fighting a losing war and making yourself look silly while you do it. Where did you do this? And don't tell me it's things like when you just asserted you are town, or said that your lurking wasn't scummy. I mean reasons why my interpretation of your filter or of your "suicide" post are wrong other than you just asserting that they are wrong.
Just within those spoliers over there. Go on. Have a look. What suicide post, out of interest?
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Also, I lurk day 1 as mafia or as town. Check the TF2 game of mafia for a town example, and like LIV? for my scum example. I'm lazy day 1. Get over it.
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On June 30 2012 04:27 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 03:59 Oberyn wrote:
To clarify:
No, it's not a scumslip and it doesn't make sense for you to think that.
Imagine Zealos is town: The plan of the 8/8 beasts was to basically attack him and kill him. If he's town, he knows that dying would actually harm town than help it. From his POV giving mana would be a "suicide" since that mana would go to the summon of a 8/8 beast that would kill him.
Even if he wanted to "help town", he thought that doing so would be "suiciding" and not actually helping town at all.
There, I showed you how he could have posted that from a town state of mind, now if you still want to attack him then you need to actually justify it. I do think that comment shows a scum mindset. I think if he meant to say what you present him as saying, he would have said it differently. He would have said something like "killing me won't help town so I'm not going to help you kill me." Much simpler than the odd phrasing he actually chose The comment just screams "scum" to me. Maybe my scum detectors aren't as fully developed as yours are. But it really does. Now, let's look at Zealos's filter and see if that gut feeling can be justified! Show nested quote +In his entire filter before I accused him of making a scum slip, Zealos wrote:
Lemme just sort out my hand and work out whats going on.
If I cock something up let me know, not played for a while, nor do I know a great deal of meta game. I have to agree about the fear of Grey, but I have no reason to think him mafia as of yet, but I could see a potential problem emerging.
Oh, yeah, I'm also all for revealing decks/hands or whatever.
What reason do you have not to reveal?
Without reason, no, I think it's a stupid idea.
Well, actually, I'm quite happy to reveal even if no one else does, but I don't see how that helps town. I do wanna know why you won't reveal though.
I'm afraid my knowledge of Magic means I'm clutching at straws atm. I can keep up, but my contributions are probably gonna be pretty bad.
I may well be a vet, but I am still terrible at the game :D
For now, I want to see how the game pans out a bit, after the first round of attacks I think we'll be able to get a better feel for who is town and who isn't.
Ok, I have nothing to spend my mana on, so does anyone need mana?
Ok, so, here's the way I see it. I have been lurky as hell. However, I am not mafia, and I am happy to play cards however the rest of town deems fit. I am waiting to see who attacks each other before I can really get a good idea of who is scum or otherwise.
I might be missing something though, but why are we suddenly creating 2 8/8 creatures for people we can't confirm as town? It seems like it would be pretty much auto lose if they both turn out to be scum.
I'm just not happy putting that much power in 2 unknown players.
Haha. Yes. I'd better give my mana to the guy that wants to use it to attack me. I'll help town, but I'm not suiciding.
What in that filter makes you think he's town? Is it the hesitation to power up town KP? Is it the excuses for not contributing? Is it the willingness to agree, then disagree, with a random plan to reveal information, all without providing any reasoning whatsoever? Because all of those make me think he is scum. He's posted more since I accused him of making a scumslip and since other people started talking seriously about attacking him, than he did in the entire first two days of the game put together. Every single post since than has been attacking someone who called him scum. He's attacked me, greymist, and nova. In none of those cases did he bother presenting any evidence other than that we wanted to attack him, and that our reasons were (according to him) bad. It's like the literal definition of omgus, but applied scattershot to three different people. So yeah. I do think he slipped and revealed that he is posting from a scum mindset. However, that's not the only reason I think he is scum. Remember when I referred to "his terrible filter"? Well, I kind of hoped you might read his filter before flying off the handle at me. But now you don't have to read his filter because I did it for you! Here's the conclusion: his filter is terrible and he is scum.
So Zealos I'll summarize the case against you one more time:
- You hesitate to increase town KP
- You made excuses for yourself, and promised to be helpful later but didn't
- You agreed for no reason with the reveal plan, then tried to push people who disagreed with it for no reason
- You didn't seem to care about the game enough to actually post until you were accused seriously, at which time you started posting a whole lot
- Your posts come from a scum mindset rather than a town mindset
- You accuse people of things but don't comment on their actions or filters, only on their cases against you
So I look through what you said was your answer to this case, and I find you answered ... what? I guess your answer to my point that your "I'll help town but" post comes from a scum mindset is "nuh-uhh it doesn't" but I don't think you've answered any of those other points.
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On June 30 2012 07:38 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:27 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 03:59 Oberyn wrote:
To clarify:
No, it's not a scumslip and it doesn't make sense for you to think that.
Imagine Zealos is town: The plan of the 8/8 beasts was to basically attack him and kill him. If he's town, he knows that dying would actually harm town than help it. From his POV giving mana would be a "suicide" since that mana would go to the summon of a 8/8 beast that would kill him.
Even if he wanted to "help town", he thought that doing so would be "suiciding" and not actually helping town at all.
There, I showed you how he could have posted that from a town state of mind, now if you still want to attack him then you need to actually justify it. I do think that comment shows a scum mindset. I think if he meant to say what you present him as saying, he would have said it differently. He would have said something like "killing me won't help town so I'm not going to help you kill me." Much simpler than the odd phrasing he actually chose The comment just screams "scum" to me. Maybe my scum detectors aren't as fully developed as yours are. But it really does. Now, let's look at Zealos's filter and see if that gut feeling can be justified! In his entire filter before I accused him of making a scum slip, Zealos wrote:
Lemme just sort out my hand and work out whats going on.
If I cock something up let me know, not played for a while, nor do I know a great deal of meta game. I have to agree about the fear of Grey, but I have no reason to think him mafia as of yet, but I could see a potential problem emerging.
Oh, yeah, I'm also all for revealing decks/hands or whatever.
What reason do you have not to reveal?
Without reason, no, I think it's a stupid idea.
Well, actually, I'm quite happy to reveal even if no one else does, but I don't see how that helps town. I do wanna know why you won't reveal though.
I'm afraid my knowledge of Magic means I'm clutching at straws atm. I can keep up, but my contributions are probably gonna be pretty bad.
I may well be a vet, but I am still terrible at the game :D
For now, I want to see how the game pans out a bit, after the first round of attacks I think we'll be able to get a better feel for who is town and who isn't.
Ok, I have nothing to spend my mana on, so does anyone need mana?
Ok, so, here's the way I see it. I have been lurky as hell. However, I am not mafia, and I am happy to play cards however the rest of town deems fit. I am waiting to see who attacks each other before I can really get a good idea of who is scum or otherwise.
I might be missing something though, but why are we suddenly creating 2 8/8 creatures for people we can't confirm as town? It seems like it would be pretty much auto lose if they both turn out to be scum.
I'm just not happy putting that much power in 2 unknown players.
Haha. Yes. I'd better give my mana to the guy that wants to use it to attack me. I'll help town, but I'm not suiciding.
What in that filter makes you think he's town? Is it the hesitation to power up town KP? Is it the excuses for not contributing? Is it the willingness to agree, then disagree, with a random plan to reveal information, all without providing any reasoning whatsoever? Because all of those make me think he is scum. He's posted more since I accused him of making a scumslip and since other people started talking seriously about attacking him, than he did in the entire first two days of the game put together. Every single post since than has been attacking someone who called him scum. He's attacked me, greymist, and nova. In none of those cases did he bother presenting any evidence other than that we wanted to attack him, and that our reasons were (according to him) bad. It's like the literal definition of omgus, but applied scattershot to three different people. So yeah. I do think he slipped and revealed that he is posting from a scum mindset. However, that's not the only reason I think he is scum. Remember when I referred to "his terrible filter"? Well, I kind of hoped you might read his filter before flying off the handle at me. But now you don't have to read his filter because I did it for you! Here's the conclusion: his filter is terrible and he is scum. So Zealos I'll summarize the case against you one more time: - You hesitate to increase town KP 1.- You made excuses for yourself, and promised to be helpful later but didn't 2.- You agreed for no reason with the reveal plan, then tried to push people who disagreed with it for no reason 3.- You didn't seem to care about the game enough to actually post until you were accused seriously, at which time you started posting a whole lot 4.- Your posts come from a scum mindset rather than a town mindset 5.- You accuse people of things but don't comment on their actions or filters, only on their cases against you 6.So I look through what you said was your answer to this case, and I find you answered ... what? I guess your answer to my point that your "I'll help town but" post comes from a scum mindset is "nuh-uhh it doesn't" but I don't think you've answered any of those other points.
Again, one by one, so even you can understand.
1. When it is planned to be used against a confirmed townie, yes, I do hesistate.
2. Lazyniess = Lurkyness = Lack of helpful posting ≠ Mafia
3. I did agree with the reveal plan. Still do, and my reason for pushing was because I thought it was a valid plan. Not too hard to understand, the reason for it, is because being secretive is generally a mafia trait, esspecially in a game with no explicit blues to snipe.
4. Refer to 2. Also note, when someone is accused seriously, they react, regardless of alignment.
5. Stupid point, you have one case where you think this is evident, instead it's you being desperate.
6. Correct, I am a reactionary player, as opposed to making my own action. Seems to be working here though, people try to wagon me, and it becomes frighteningly obvious.
Anything else?
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So what that all sounds like to me is you admitting to not trying to help town and being too lazy to care unless it looks like you are going to die.
A couple specifics:
1. Why would you not try and convince everyone you're town, instead of just saying "you think I'm scum? Whl screw yourplan to help town!"
3. I'm glad you have a reason now, why didn't you post it before - and if you just couldn't be bothered to, why did you hypocritically go on the offensive when someone else disagreed without giving a reason?
6. How about this - you've made it clear you think I'm scum. Can you give any reasons for that which aren't related to my case against you?
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On June 30 2012 07:58 strongandbig wrote:
So what that all sounds like to me is you admitting to not trying to help town and being too lazy to care unless it looks like you are going to die.
A couple specifics:
1. Why would you not try and convince everyone you're town, instead of just saying "you think I'm scum? Whl screw yourplan to help town!"
3. I'm glad you have a reason now, why didn't you post it before - and if you just couldn't be bothered to, why did you hypocritically go on the offensive when someone else disagreed without giving a reason?
6. How about this - you've made it clear you think I'm scum. Can you give any reasons for that which aren't related to my case against you?
Your relationship with Grey is weird. It's like you acknoledge he's scum, then avoid talking about him at all costs.
Also, I fail to see why using your case against me is a bad thing. It's clearly not a well thought through case, and even when town start turning against you, you continue to use the same arguments. It's tunneling taken to an extreme.
As for:
1. How do you "convince people" you're town when the only case against you is based on inactivity lol. Yelling with my hands in the air that I'm town won't change anything.
3. Because it wasn't important, and going "on the offensive" as in asking someone why they disagreed with me without any reason..... You're being very hypocritical yourself ironically.
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The reason i suggested that is because I have a scum read on zealos and I don't think he would be bussing his teammate this early. I could be wrong about Zealos and S&B and then I will admit stupidity and then sheep ob and zeal, but I doubt I will have to do this. I am in the same boat with Greymist. I think he's a bad candidate for killing.
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Lol, I've answered that exact point at least twice before. If he just completely ignores my case against him, what am I supposed to do? I still think he started out the game pushing an anti-town agenda, what more do you want? Should I end every post with Greymist Delenda Est? Well, at least you've demonstrated that you can parrot Oberyn's points. Got anything original?
And the way you "convince people that you are town" is by trying to find scum and by explaining how your actions help town. Basically, by demonstrating that you care about things that townies care about rather than just about staying alive and invalidating cases against you, like you have been.
Also I'm glad that you spent like half of your posts day 1 talking about something that "wasn't very important."
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On June 30 2012 08:07 Mattchew wrote:
The reason i suggested that is because I have a scum read on zealos and I don't think he would be bussing his teammate this early. I could be wrong about Zealos and S&B and then I will admit stupidity and then sheep ob and zeal, but I doubt I will have to do this. I am in the same boat with Greymist. I think he's a bad candidate for killing.
Explain this please. Why is Greymist a bad candidate for killing? (or were you talking about someone else?)
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On June 30 2012 08:07 Mattchew wrote:
The reason i suggested that is because I have a scum read on zealos and I don't think he would be bussing his teammate this early. I could be wrong about Zealos and S&B and then I will admit stupidity and then sheep ob and zeal, but I doubt I will have to do this. I am in the same boat with Greymist. I think he's a bad candidate for killing.
So you think:
- Zealos is scum.
- Zealos and I are not scumbuddies.
Let's kill Zealos then!
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On June 30 2012 08:14 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 08:07 Mattchew wrote:
The reason i suggested that is because I have a scum read on zealos and I don't think he would be bussing his teammate this early. I could be wrong about Zealos and S&B and then I will admit stupidity and then sheep ob and zeal, but I doubt I will have to do this. I am in the same boat with Greymist. I think he's a bad candidate for killing. Explain this please. Why is Greymist a bad candidate for killing? (or were you talking about someone else?)
I already did. Greymist has posted EXTREMELY openly throughout this entire game. Do you see him lying anywhere or withholding info? Because I don't. Yes he wants to kill everyone, but Palmar does too as town, so I don't think this is a bad town strat.
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On June 30 2012 08:13 strongandbig wrote:
Lol, I've answered that exact point at least twice before. If he just completely ignores my case against him, what am I supposed to do? I still think he started out the game pushing an anti-town agenda, what more do you want? Should I end every post with Greymist Delenda Est? Well, at least you've demonstrated that you can parrot Oberyn's points. Got anything original?
And the way you "convince people that you are town" is by trying to find scum and by explaining how your actions help town. Basically, by demonstrating that you care about things that townies care about rather than just about staying alive and invalidating cases against you, like you have been.
Also I'm glad that you spent like half of your posts day 1 talking about something that "wasn't very important."
I'm glad you agree your case is invalid. You are beginning to see reason
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On June 30 2012 08:22 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 08:13 strongandbig wrote:
Lol, I've answered that exact point at least twice before. If he just completely ignores my case against him, what am I supposed to do? I still think he started out the game pushing an anti-town agenda, what more do you want? Should I end every post with Greymist Delenda Est? Well, at least you've demonstrated that you can parrot Oberyn's points. Got anything original?
And the way you "convince people that you are town" is by trying to find scum and by explaining how your actions help town. Basically, by demonstrating that you care about things that townies care about rather than just about staying alive and invalidating cases against you, like you have been.
Also I'm glad that you spent like half of your posts day 1 talking about something that "wasn't very important." I'm glad you agree your case is invalid. You are beginning to see reason
ho ho ho very funny
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