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On June 30 2012 05:01 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:49 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 04:47 Oberyn wrote:On June 30 2012 04:36 GreYMisT wrote:
I honestly just don't care anymore. My new plan this game is to get so powerful that no one can stop me, and then systematically kill everyone who annoys me and be the last one standing. Bound to be mafia somewhere in there. I'm already there, and you kind of annoy me this game so I'll take your own advice. What is your opinion on my case against Zealos's filter? You still haven't told me why you would attack Zealos instead of Greymist. Hell even the "his deck is the strongest" argument works in favour of you attacking Grey. I can't say I disagree with your "case", he did lurk, not contribute and kind of flip-flop with some ideas (about the deck-revealing plan, about "helping town"). But I got a gut town read on him. His reactions seemed legit to me, for instance this: Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:00 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 00:49 Oberyn wrote:
@Zealos: I can already summon the 8/8 beast without your help, you giving me mana will only make me able to cast the Spellbomb.
Do you agree about me being able to use the Spellbomb or not? That's what you will be doing by giving me mana, so think about it By this logic I suppose I may as well give you mana. I'm also happy with your choice of attack in S&B, your logic makes sense. I'll give you my swamp mana (Only have the one unfortunately.) Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:53 Zealos wrote:
This is a mess. I'm gonna have to have a good read before committing my mana anywhere. Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:55 Zealos wrote:
Ok, no, Grey's points against Ob were bad, and his random new case seemed desperate. Giving all 3 mana to you Ob, that what you need? You may say he's "flip-flopping" and that actually makes him scum. But there would be no reason for him as scum to do this, since it happened in a short period of time and there was no significant event in between. That seemed to me more like a confused townie changing his mind over and over because of frustration and shit (I've done it many times as town).
To me it seems more like a lurking scum who realized that he might actually die, and who was therefore in a hurry to stop seeming lurky.
On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
Also, if he was planning on giving me 3 mana as scum, I don't think he would have done it the way he did it (in a rush, in the heat of the moment, etc). Scum don't play in the heat of the moment, they stay back, plan, wait and then post when necessary.
His posts didn't seem like that.
He gave you mana as soon as you said you would attack me. I think he did it in a rush to seem towny as soon as it was "safe" for him.
On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
Those "small" things make me have a gut town read on him.
He's also being the target of absolutely everybody and there's 0% opposition to his "lynch", even when I propose alternatives (you or Grey); which raises red flags since if he was scum him+the other scum would have been all over a Grey "lynch" since I proposed it, he wouldn't have called Grey out 1 hour ago, but before.
Also EVERYBODY called him scum, so he HAS to attack someone that attacked him by definition (he isn't attacking Prome, WBG nor Fulla for instance, and all of them FoSed Zealos).
Yes but he never actually did any ANALYSIS!!! I've made this point THREE TIMES and you CONTINUE to ignore it. His only reasoning for the attacks on me, nova, and GM were because of our cases against HIM, not because of our actions in the game. It's like he only actually cares about discrediting our cases against him. Oh wait does that sound like scum other Barry? YES IT DOES.
On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
The fact that I agree with his scumreads (you+Grey) help him a little bit.
Oh nice to have that cleared up. Gee I wonder why his scumreads happen to agree with the most aggressive and vocal player in the thread, who's shown that he reacts badly to being disagreed with. (it's because he's scum)
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On June 30 2012 04:48 Zealos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:41 Mattchew wrote:On June 30 2012 04:36 GreYMisT wrote:
I honestly just don't care anymore. My new plan this game is to get so powerful that no one can stop me, and then systematically kill everyone who annoys me and be the last one standing. Bound to be mafia somewhere in there. I didn't know palmar and greymist were a team ps. this is not anti town if he is town Yes it is, because once he realises all his scumreads are terrible, it will be too late and the scumteam will kill him.
This is interesting, is it because he has you as a scum read?
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On June 30 2012 05:08 Nova_Terra wrote:Just got back and am looking at what I've missed, but I need to quickly point out how right this is. Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:15 Oberyn wrote:
I realize you don't really want your HP to go down by using "City of Brass" because everybody seems to want to attack you so you may die very fast if you do so.
However know that I won't let everybody just rampage against you, if you sacrifice 2 HP to give me+WBG mana then we'll greatly appreciate it.
I also think you are likely the townie out of S&B+Grey+You group, so if I still think you are town I won't let you die (however I'm not 100% sure so you still need to contribute and shit).
Zealos, you could do well by reading my case against Grey and S&B and posting your thoughts about it, or posting your thoughts about anything else that's being discussed. I also think Zealos is the most likely to be town out of the group of 3 Im still gonna be avataring zealos Gonzaw is on top of everything this game, dayumm
Wait. Interesting. Seems like a bad plan to me, but sure.
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On June 30 2012 05:16 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:48 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 04:41 Mattchew wrote:On June 30 2012 04:36 GreYMisT wrote:
I honestly just don't care anymore. My new plan this game is to get so powerful that no one can stop me, and then systematically kill everyone who annoys me and be the last one standing. Bound to be mafia somewhere in there. I didn't know palmar and greymist were a team ps. this is not anti town if he is town Yes it is, because once he realises all his scumreads are terrible, it will be too late and the scumteam will kill him. This is interesting, is it because he has you as a scum read?
Yes. This is exactly why, obviously lol...
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The best part is the mafia won't attack me because they know it would be best to have you guys waste hits on me, and my plan is not anti town. I plan on killing everyone including the scum.
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FUCK YEAH 8/8 CLONE MOTHERFUCKER!!!
Yeah sorry >_>
Also is there a way to mark which monsters have summon sickness and which ones don't (in the board)? I already forgot who summoned what this turn >_>
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On June 30 2012 02:44 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 02:39 Oberyn wrote:
What do you think of Zealos suddenly changing his mind and giving me 3 mana? He did it after you said you would attack me or grey, not him. Risky if he and grey are scum together, but null otherwise since it would be the right move either as scum or town, given that he's under pressure.
I think I only said this like 3 times
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On June 30 2012 05:19 Oberyn wrote:
Also is there a way to mark which monsters have summon sickness and which ones don't (in the board)? I already forgot who summoned what this turn >_>
Just did. The (SS) behind the creatures does not mean they were part of the wrong party some 70 years ago but rather that they have summoning sickness.
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On June 30 2012 05:21 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 02:44 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 02:39 Oberyn wrote:
What do you think of Zealos suddenly changing his mind and giving me 3 mana? He did it after you said you would attack me or grey, not him. Risky if he and grey are scum together, but null otherwise since it would be the right move either as scum or town, given that he's under pressure. I think I only said this like 3 times
Yeah but you're not the one posting a million times a second and dominating the thread.
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On June 30 2012 05:08 Nova_Terra wrote:Just got back and am looking at what I've missed, but I need to quickly point out how right this is. Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 01:15 Oberyn wrote:
I realize you don't really want your HP to go down by using "City of Brass" because everybody seems to want to attack you so you may die very fast if you do so.
However know that I won't let everybody just rampage against you, if you sacrifice 2 HP to give me+WBG mana then we'll greatly appreciate it.
I also think you are likely the townie out of S&B+Grey+You group, so if I still think you are town I won't let you die (however I'm not 100% sure so you still need to contribute and shit).
Zealos, you could do well by reading my case against Grey and S&B and posting your thoughts about it, or posting your thoughts about anything else that's being discussed. I also think Zealos is the most likely to be town out of the group of 3, although he is still certainly scummier than any of the other players for me currently. I also noticed a s&b's link to greymist, but I didn't really want to point that out until a greymist flip cause I didn't notice the other infos tht you did Oberyn. Im still gonna be avataring zealos cause of his unwillingness to help and make cases etc. Gonzaw is on top of everything this game, dayumm
Ebwop: Zealos also never posts like anything until we're all freaking ready to kill him
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On June 30 2012 05:24 Nova_Terra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:08 Nova_Terra wrote:Just got back and am looking at what I've missed, but I need to quickly point out how right this is. On June 30 2012 01:15 Oberyn wrote:
I realize you don't really want your HP to go down by using "City of Brass" because everybody seems to want to attack you so you may die very fast if you do so.
However know that I won't let everybody just rampage against you, if you sacrifice 2 HP to give me+WBG mana then we'll greatly appreciate it.
I also think you are likely the townie out of S&B+Grey+You group, so if I still think you are town I won't let you die (however I'm not 100% sure so you still need to contribute and shit).
Zealos, you could do well by reading my case against Grey and S&B and posting your thoughts about it, or posting your thoughts about anything else that's being discussed. I also think Zealos is the most likely to be town out of the group of 3, although he is still certainly scummier than any of the other players for me currently. I also noticed a s&b's link to greymist, but I didn't really want to point that out until a greymist flip cause I didn't notice the other infos tht you did Oberyn. Im still gonna be avataring zealos cause of his unwillingness to help and make cases etc. Gonzaw is on top of everything this game, dayumm Ebwop: Zealos also never posts like anything until we're all freaking ready to kill him
How is this indicative of alignment?
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On June 30 2012 05:23 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:21 Nova_Terra wrote:On June 30 2012 02:44 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 02:39 Oberyn wrote:
What do you think of Zealos suddenly changing his mind and giving me 3 mana? He did it after you said you would attack me or grey, not him. Risky if he and grey are scum together, but null otherwise since it would be the right move either as scum or town, given that he's under pressure. I think I only said this like 3 times Yeah but you're not the one posting a million times a second and dominating the thread.
Oh wait I see - you mean you agree with me, nm.
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On June 30 2012 05:15 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:01 Oberyn wrote:On June 30 2012 04:49 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 04:47 Oberyn wrote:On June 30 2012 04:36 GreYMisT wrote:
I honestly just don't care anymore. My new plan this game is to get so powerful that no one can stop me, and then systematically kill everyone who annoys me and be the last one standing. Bound to be mafia somewhere in there. I'm already there, and you kind of annoy me this game so I'll take your own advice. What is your opinion on my case against Zealos's filter? You still haven't told me why you would attack Zealos instead of Greymist. Hell even the "his deck is the strongest" argument works in favour of you attacking Grey. I can't say I disagree with your "case", he did lurk, not contribute and kind of flip-flop with some ideas (about the deck-revealing plan, about "helping town"). But I got a gut town read on him. His reactions seemed legit to me, for instance this: On June 30 2012 01:00 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 00:49 Oberyn wrote:
@Zealos: I can already summon the 8/8 beast without your help, you giving me mana will only make me able to cast the Spellbomb.
Do you agree about me being able to use the Spellbomb or not? That's what you will be doing by giving me mana, so think about it By this logic I suppose I may as well give you mana. I'm also happy with your choice of attack in S&B, your logic makes sense. I'll give you my swamp mana (Only have the one unfortunately.) On June 30 2012 01:53 Zealos wrote:
This is a mess. I'm gonna have to have a good read before committing my mana anywhere. On June 30 2012 01:55 Zealos wrote:
Ok, no, Grey's points against Ob were bad, and his random new case seemed desperate. Giving all 3 mana to you Ob, that what you need? You may say he's "flip-flopping" and that actually makes him scum. But there would be no reason for him as scum to do this, since it happened in a short period of time and there was no significant event in between. That seemed to me more like a confused townie changing his mind over and over because of frustration and shit (I've done it many times as town). To me it seems more like a lurking scum who realized that he might actually die, and who was therefore in a hurry to stop seeming lurky. Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
Also, if he was planning on giving me 3 mana as scum, I don't think he would have done it the way he did it (in a rush, in the heat of the moment, etc). Scum don't play in the heat of the moment, they stay back, plan, wait and then post when necessary.
His posts didn't seem like that.
He gave you mana as soon as you said you would attack me. I think he did it in a rush to seem towny as soon as it was "safe" for him. Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
Those "small" things make me have a gut town read on him.
He's also being the target of absolutely everybody and there's 0% opposition to his "lynch", even when I propose alternatives (you or Grey); which raises red flags since if he was scum him+the other scum would have been all over a Grey "lynch" since I proposed it, he wouldn't have called Grey out 1 hour ago, but before.
Also EVERYBODY called him scum, so he HAS to attack someone that attacked him by definition (he isn't attacking Prome, WBG nor Fulla for instance, and all of them FoSed Zealos).
Yes but he never actually did any ANALYSIS!!! I've made this point THREE TIMES and you CONTINUE to ignore it. His only reasoning for the attacks on me, nova, and GM were because of our cases against HIM, not because of our actions in the game. It's like he only actually cares about discrediting our cases against him. Oh wait does that sound like scum other Barry? YES IT DOES. Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
The fact that I agree with his scumreads (you+Grey) help him a little bit. Oh nice to have that cleared up. Gee I wonder why his scumreads happen to agree with the most aggressive and vocal player in the thread, who's shown that he reacts badly to being disagreed with. (it's because he's scum)
You are reacting like scum right now, you know that right?
Look at the tone of your post:
Yes but he never actually did any ANALYSIS!!! I've made this point THREE TIMES and you CONTINUE to ignore it. His only reasoning for the attacks on me, nova, and GM were because of our cases against HIM, not because of our actions in the game. It's like he only actually cares about discrediting our cases against him. Oh wait does that sound like scum other Barry? YES IT DOES.
Oh nice to have that cleared up. Gee I wonder why his scumreads happen to agree with the most aggressive and vocal player in the thread, who's shown that he reacts badly to being disagreed with. (it's because he's scum)
There's nothing that would make you change your tone/attitude like that, nothing.
I didn't directly accuse you in that post, wasn't aggressive, nor condescending, nor insulting, nor "dense", nothing; I just stated why I got a gut town read on Zealos and now you are all over the place out of a sudden.
You know I don't really want to defend Zealos but you give me no choice:
To me it seems more like a lurking scum who realized that he might actually die, and who was therefore in a hurry to stop seeming lurky.
What the...? What? How does that make sense?
He flip-flopped on giving me mana because he "was in a hurry to stop seeming lurky"? wtf?
He gave you mana as soon as you said you would attack me. I think he did it in a rush to seem towny as soon as it was "safe" for him.
(First of all, I guess he meant "Greymist" and not "S&B" there, since I didn't actually say I would attack you then)
I planned on attacking Greymist since like D1, why wouldn't he "rush" to that before?
Yes, he didn't make any analysis...that doesn't automatically make him scum, it only makes him harder to read.
Yes, he's "scummy", yes he "doesn't contribute", yes he "has a chance of being mafia".
However his attitude seems townie IMO (certainly not like in LV where he was basically saying "oh can someone please tell me what to do?" and shit).
Also S&B...
You still haven't told me why you would attack Zealos instead of Greymist
Do I have to use force or something to get that out of you?
On June 30 2012 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:19 Oberyn wrote:
Also is there a way to mark which monsters have summon sickness and which ones don't (in the board)? I already forgot who summoned what this turn >_> Just did. The (SS) behind the creatures does not mean they were part of the wrong party some 70 years ago but rather that they have summoning sickness.
I was thinking more of coloring them red (for instance) or something, that way it's more noticeable.
(for instance I don't know if the (SS) refers to the creature to the left or to the right)
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>_>
You know, just leave it to me I'll update the Board myself 
@Mattchew: I see you wandering around here without discussing too much.
What do you think of Greymist and S&B?
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@Greymist: I was under the assumption that you were going to make a case against Promethelax...
.....so? Are you going do so something about it?
Just let me tell you that if you attack Promethelax without justifying it in the thread I'll take it as a scum claim (well, I hope other people take it as such).
You don't even need to read anything or respond to anything, at least just post your case.
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On June 30 2012 05:36 Oberyn wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:15 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 05:01 Oberyn wrote:On June 30 2012 04:49 strongandbig wrote:On June 30 2012 04:47 Oberyn wrote:On June 30 2012 04:36 GreYMisT wrote:
I honestly just don't care anymore. My new plan this game is to get so powerful that no one can stop me, and then systematically kill everyone who annoys me and be the last one standing. Bound to be mafia somewhere in there. I'm already there, and you kind of annoy me this game so I'll take your own advice. What is your opinion on my case against Zealos's filter? You still haven't told me why you would attack Zealos instead of Greymist. Hell even the "his deck is the strongest" argument works in favour of you attacking Grey. I can't say I disagree with your "case", he did lurk, not contribute and kind of flip-flop with some ideas (about the deck-revealing plan, about "helping town"). But I got a gut town read on him. His reactions seemed legit to me, for instance this: On June 30 2012 01:00 Zealos wrote:On June 30 2012 00:49 Oberyn wrote:
@Zealos: I can already summon the 8/8 beast without your help, you giving me mana will only make me able to cast the Spellbomb.
Do you agree about me being able to use the Spellbomb or not? That's what you will be doing by giving me mana, so think about it By this logic I suppose I may as well give you mana. I'm also happy with your choice of attack in S&B, your logic makes sense. I'll give you my swamp mana (Only have the one unfortunately.) On June 30 2012 01:53 Zealos wrote:
This is a mess. I'm gonna have to have a good read before committing my mana anywhere. On June 30 2012 01:55 Zealos wrote:
Ok, no, Grey's points against Ob were bad, and his random new case seemed desperate. Giving all 3 mana to you Ob, that what you need? You may say he's "flip-flopping" and that actually makes him scum. But there would be no reason for him as scum to do this, since it happened in a short period of time and there was no significant event in between. That seemed to me more like a confused townie changing his mind over and over because of frustration and shit (I've done it many times as town). To me it seems more like a lurking scum who realized that he might actually die, and who was therefore in a hurry to stop seeming lurky. On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
Also, if he was planning on giving me 3 mana as scum, I don't think he would have done it the way he did it (in a rush, in the heat of the moment, etc). Scum don't play in the heat of the moment, they stay back, plan, wait and then post when necessary.
His posts didn't seem like that.
He gave you mana as soon as you said you would attack me. I think he did it in a rush to seem towny as soon as it was "safe" for him. On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
Those "small" things make me have a gut town read on him.
He's also being the target of absolutely everybody and there's 0% opposition to his "lynch", even when I propose alternatives (you or Grey); which raises red flags since if he was scum him+the other scum would have been all over a Grey "lynch" since I proposed it, he wouldn't have called Grey out 1 hour ago, but before.
Also EVERYBODY called him scum, so he HAS to attack someone that attacked him by definition (he isn't attacking Prome, WBG nor Fulla for instance, and all of them FoSed Zealos).
Yes but he never actually did any ANALYSIS!!! I've made this point THREE TIMES and you CONTINUE to ignore it. His only reasoning for the attacks on me, nova, and GM were because of our cases against HIM, not because of our actions in the game. It's like he only actually cares about discrediting our cases against him. Oh wait does that sound like scum other Barry? YES IT DOES. On June 30 2012 04:36 Oberyn wrote:
The fact that I agree with his scumreads (you+Grey) help him a little bit. Oh nice to have that cleared up. Gee I wonder why his scumreads happen to agree with the most aggressive and vocal player in the thread, who's shown that he reacts badly to being disagreed with. (it's because he's scum) You are reacting like scum right now, you know that right? Look at the tone of your post: Show nested quote +Yes but he never actually did any ANALYSIS!!! I've made this point THREE TIMES and you CONTINUE to ignore it. His only reasoning for the attacks on me, nova, and GM were because of our cases against HIM, not because of our actions in the game. It's like he only actually cares about discrediting our cases against him. Oh wait does that sound like scum other Barry? YES IT DOES. Show nested quote +Oh nice to have that cleared up. Gee I wonder why his scumreads happen to agree with the most aggressive and vocal player in the thread, who's shown that he reacts badly to being disagreed with. (it's because he's scum) There's nothing that would make you change your tone/attitude like that, nothing. I didn't directly accuse you in that post, wasn't aggressive, nor condescending, nor insulting, nor "dense", nothing; I just stated why I got a gut town read on Zealos and now you are all over the place out of a sudden. You know I don't really want to defend Zealos but you give me no choice: Show nested quote +To me it seems more like a lurking scum who realized that he might actually die, and who was therefore in a hurry to stop seeming lurky. What the...? What? How does that make sense? He flip-flopped on giving me mana because he "was in a hurry to stop seeming lurky"? wtf? Show nested quote +He gave you mana as soon as you said you would attack me. I think he did it in a rush to seem towny as soon as it was "safe" for him. (First of all, I guess he meant "Greymist" and not "S&B" there, since I didn't actually say I would attack you then) I planned on attacking Greymist since like D1, why wouldn't he "rush" to that before? Yes, he didn't make any analysis...that doesn't automatically make him scum, it only makes him harder to read. Yes, he's "scummy", yes he "doesn't contribute", yes he "has a chance of being mafia". However his attitude seems townie IMO (certainly not like in LV where he was basically saying "oh can someone please tell me what to do?" and shit). Also S&B... You still haven't told me why you would attack Zealos instead of GreymistDo I have to use force or something to get that out of you? Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 30 2012 05:19 Oberyn wrote:
Also is there a way to mark which monsters have summon sickness and which ones don't (in the board)? I already forgot who summoned what this turn >_> Just did. The (SS) behind the creatures does not mean they were part of the wrong party some 70 years ago but rather that they have summoning sickness. I was thinking more of coloring them red (for instance) or something, that way it's more noticeable.
(for instance I don't know if the (SS) refers to the creature to the left or to the right)
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>_>
You know, just leave it to me I'll update the Board myself @Mattchew: I see you wandering around here without discussing too much. What do you think of Greymist and S&B?
Town and Town. I think somewhere in zealos/full/were is scum
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I have 4 cards on me if I remember correctly, but in the Board it says I have 5
(7 from beginning-1 Island-1 Spellbomb+1 draw-1 Island-1 Clone)
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ugh this is where i wish i could edit... meant to take out all the other stuff
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On June 30 2012 05:40 Oberyn wrote:
I have 4 cards on me if I remember correctly, but in the Board it says I have 5
(7 from beginning-1 Island-1 Spellbomb+1 draw-1 Island-1 Clone)
Fixed, thanks. The card count might not always be accurate since it's the hardest thing to keep track of.
As for Summoning Sickness indicators, I tried colors but it isn't as effective and it's harder to edit that every cycle. (SS) will be to the right of the creature in case it suffers from SS. I'm also open to other ways of displaying the board, but please keep it in PM.
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On June 30 2012 05:40 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 05:36 Oberyn wrote:
@Mattchew: I see you wandering around here without discussing too much.
What do you think of Greymist and S&B? Town and Town. I think somewhere in zealos/full/were is scum
Could you explain that please?
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