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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
July 14 2012 00:00 GMT
#1881
On July 14 2012 08:57 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 08:55 jaj22 wrote:
On July 14 2012 08:38 Kurumi wrote:
On July 14 2012 08:34 jaj22 wrote:
I was really tempted to replace ET and push for a Grush lynch, but I didn't because I wasn't going to be there for the day 3 deadline. Turned out that didn't even matter because of the DT check.


And you are?

Mostly a reader

I played in LV with Grush though and defended him because he didn't play that badly, so I had a strong scum meta read on him in this game. Not sure it would have made much difference because other players from LV made the same point and were ignored.


Wait, so you were playing? What?

No, I just read this game. I nearly subbed in for ET though. My finger was hovering over the post button.

Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 14 2012 00:00 GMT
#1882
mafia 2good
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 14 2012 00:03 GMT
#1883
On July 14 2012 08:54 Vivax wrote:
I'll push for grush policy lynches in the future.

gg scum.

I actually thought Kurumi was mad hatter cause of the nonsense written somewhat early.

I think BKE also had that impression.


I did think so but after Hyaach roleclaimed it didn't make sense for there to be anymore blues in the game. I was also thinking that by now a MH would have roleclaimed or been more active (the first action confirming his townieness and the second to kill scum).
Playing Protoss = Opponent owned
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2012 00:03 GMT
#1884
On July 14 2012 09:00 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 08:57 Kurumi wrote:
On July 14 2012 08:55 jaj22 wrote:
On July 14 2012 08:38 Kurumi wrote:
On July 14 2012 08:34 jaj22 wrote:
I was really tempted to replace ET and push for a Grush lynch, but I didn't because I wasn't going to be there for the day 3 deadline. Turned out that didn't even matter because of the DT check.


And you are?

Mostly a reader

I played in LV with Grush though and defended him because he didn't play that badly, so I had a strong scum meta read on him in this game. Not sure it would have made much difference because other players from LV made the same point and were ignored.


Wait, so you were playing? What?

No, I just read this game. I nearly subbed in for ET though. My finger was hovering over the post button.


O---kay. I am still confused, but now I know you did not play! Thanks.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
July 14 2012 00:24 GMT
#1885
Skillful mafia play guys. Very GG.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 14 2012 01:43 GMT
#1886
Oh wow, didn't expect endgame here. GG.

Wished I'd actually posted my stupid thing in thread now:
+ Show Spoiler +
So here's my fun theory, that I almost posted in thread before finding something else to talk about. Kurumi's early nonsense posts may/may not have had actual information in them. Town needs all the information it can get. Mafia has all the alignment information already. Therefore, town players will be reading and trying to interpret Kurumi's posts more than mafia players. Talking to Kurumi after the 12/ET vote, where he started posting in plainer english, does not count. This may break down if Kurumi is mafia, unsure what to make of that situation. But for fun:

These are people that actively tried to interpret Kurumi posts:
Mattchew (town), austinmcc (town), layabout (town), shiaopi (?), BKE (?), VE (?).

Hyaach has claimed green checks on shiaopi and BKE.

People that sort of try to read Kurumi:
ET (town), Twelve (town), ghost (town), Acro (?)

Acro just makes one little joke post, mainly speaks about Kurumi as a lynch target for being unreadable.

If the checks on ShiaoPi and BKE are good, then VE is really the only person who can break this. For the one post where Acro sort of tries to engage Kurumi, he's got about 8 talking about how he can't read Kurumi and wants to lynch him.
Fe fi fo fum.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 14 2012 01:51 GMT
#1887
Can I just say I love that theory
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 14 2012 02:22 GMT
#1888
Haha, thanks.

I was going to post it, but then thought that acro failed to vote D2 so started looking at acro/vivax and went with that instead. Just wanted SOMETHING to spark discussion, because there were so many points during this game that town just stalled.
Fe fi fo fum.
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 14 2012 02:24 GMT
#1889
gg guys
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18146 Posts
July 14 2012 02:46 GMT
#1890
Damn. I was really hoping casualman wouldn't fuck it up this badly.

Anyway, the last day was rather hilarious. Scum pushing for killing their scumbuddy and all town wanted to do was kill their town friend. We really really tried to bus grush too. Why you no listen?

Anyway, I'm drunk and going to bed. GG scumteam!!!
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 14 2012 09:51 GMT
#1891
uh....
gg scum, well played.
Thanks for hosting and also apologies for playing a godawful game from my side :S
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Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2012 12:35 GMT
#1892
BTW new guys who got lynched, don't worry. Happens to everybody. In my first game, I got lynched Day 1. I did not make it any easier for my Town mates... Just keep on rockin'!
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18146 Posts
July 14 2012 13:08 GMT
#1893
K, I read over the observer QT. The Kurumi-approach was very interesting. I was very careful to make sure I mentioned my fellow mafia members when appropriate and I'm glad to see that that was very necessary.

I'm glad nobody noticed my GIGANTIC scum slip. I may have snuck by because it got posted by kingdedede instead of my main account, but here it is:
On July 06 2012 08:23 kingdedede wrote:
<snip>

Grush: I probably shouldn't be transferring reads from one game to another, but I think he's scum in SSB and I think he's playing the exact same style in this game... a sort of trolly lurker style. I like the lynch.

<snip>


At the time I posted this it was fairly innocent and I thought it was decent, but I completely forgot that I was just ACTING townie in SSB and was actually scum. That game ended way sooner than this one and the kingdedede+cephiro scumteam won the game. If anybody who had looked at that game had stumbled upon this post it should've set massive red flags off:
1. I was scum in SSB, so KNEW grush was town. But, here I was saying grush looked like scum in that game, which I knew to be a blatant lie.
2. If I was lying about grush's alignment in SSB to make a case here, it must be with an agenda. An agenda to get someone lynched based on a lie is a scum agenda.

I made the post and went to get ready for bed... as I was brushing my teeth I realized the giant blunder I had made, rushed back to the computer but there wasn't really anything I could do except pray it went unnoticed I then saw that I had made the post on kingdedede and crossed my thumbs for it getting snowed under before anybody paid any attention to it.

Other than this rather big derp, I am quite happy with my play.


Reasoning for nightkills:
N1: marv replaced in for a complete inactive and in about 10 hours of game he created a happy town atmosphere. Yes, he led a mislynch, but he was active, incredibly townie and whipping town into shape. He just plain HAD to die. Rastaban was a (failed) blue snipe and s0lstice impressed us with his reads. At that point Mattchew did not yet look like he was playing very actively and Bugs had spent D1 trolling.

N2: Bugs stopped trolling and got rather dangerous, austinmcc was making dangerous amounts of sense. The medic on Bugs was fairly obvious in retrospect, but this also confirmed the presence of a medic to us.

N3: I wasn't there, but I think the idea was that the medic would be on the DT, so kurumi aimed at dangerous townies. We got lucky that Mattchew was the medic. I won't speak for the others, but I didn't have him pegged as blue.

N4: with the medic out of the way we could easily take out the DT. It was also time to start murdering confirmed townies.



What is going to happen with layabout? I have played with him before and never found him rude, but his behaviour N1 was, imho, really unacceptable. It's just so strange: was his account hacked or something?
ghost_403
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1825 Posts
July 14 2012 13:10 GMT
#1894
@acro: As one of the cohosts for SSBMM, I should have seen that and lynched you on the spot -_-
They say great science is built on the shoulders of giants. Not here. At Aperture, we do all our science from scratch, no hand holding. Step aside, REAL SCIENCE coming through.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 14 2012 14:40 GMT
#1895
lol, I really should have caught onto that as well acro >_>
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TL+ Member
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 14 2012 15:20 GMT
#1896
People should just lynch acro if he survives past day 3 to be honest but town had to many distractions
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
July 14 2012 17:02 GMT
#1897
GG.
Thanks for hosting, awesome flavor.


On July 14 2012 07:48 Mandalor wrote:
I'll stick with Maju.
Kurumi, grush and casualman are really really annoying people as well. If there's no rule against dumb posting I forsee mafia games filled with trolls in the future


I had to play my town meta so I wouldn't get lynched while not helping the town, hence lurking.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
July 14 2012 17:03 GMT
#1898
Oh, and

On July 14 2012 08:17 Kurumi wrote:
Casualman Mafia MVP.

"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
BroodKingEXE
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States829 Posts
July 14 2012 18:38 GMT
#1899
On July 15 2012 02:02 grush57 wrote:
GG.
Thanks for hosting, awesome flavor.


Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 07:48 Mandalor wrote:
I'll stick with Maju.
Kurumi, grush and casualman are really really annoying people as well. If there's no rule against dumb posting I forsee mafia games filled with trolls in the future


I had to play my town meta so I wouldn't get lynched while not helping the town, hence lurking.


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NoSmurfHere
Profile Joined June 2012
New Zealand613 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#1900
On July 15 2012 02:02 grush57 wrote:
GG.
Thanks for hosting, awesome flavor.


Show nested quote +
On July 14 2012 07:48 Mandalor wrote:
I'll stick with Maju.
Kurumi, grush and casualman are really really annoying people as well. If there's no rule against dumb posting I forsee mafia games filled with trolls in the future


I had to play my town meta so I wouldn't get lynched while not helping the town, hence lurking.


You weren't playing your town meta and anyone who defended you on that basis wasn't reading the thread.

No offense to the scumteam, but this was (like most normals recently) firmly a town loss, not really a scum win. When no one in the game has correct reads and the only people attacking scum are scum themselves, you can do whatever you want as scum and win. I've done that myself as scum.
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