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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 04 2012 22:01 GMT
#1261
Hey twelve are you still following the thread?
I asked you questions as you are just ignoring me I feel like interpreting mafia motivation should have been the correct read instead of the newbie townie one I had you under at first.

[/b]##vote: Twelve[/b]

Feel like talking? If you really are town then do something for the last couple of hours...
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22412 Posts
July 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#1262
ET's replacement should be bombarded with accusations once and if one joins.

For now back to Twelve since I don't wanna risk ET getting lynched when he could be modkilled.

I really hope he doesn't flip town.
Mandalor
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany2362 Posts
July 04 2012 22:15 GMT
#1263
ET as scum leaving like that would be incredibly bm. I don't think he was mafia afterall.
Okay guys I'm off to bed. Hopefully 12 flips red.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22412 Posts
July 04 2012 22:18 GMT
#1264
Mandalor, can you give me insight on this wtfpost?

On July 02 2012 18:47 Mandalor wrote:
I just want to clarify a few things on my position on drwiggl3s:
I think the doctor is a townie.
I don't agree that mattchew's list is necessarily all town.
I don't think ET is scum. If mattchew is indeed scum, that will obviously raise some suspicion on him, but he's a very constructive poster. I don't agree with a lot of his views, but he just doesn't seem to be counterproductive in his actions.
I think killing mattchew is a good idea, but I don't think it's going to happen.

I still think BKE is scum.


I don't understand what you wanted to do with mattchew at the time. You praise his constructive posts but think that killing him is a good idea?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 04 2012 22:36 GMT
#1265
Since my target will not meet his end today, I shall go with my second target, which is in the top.
Bomb. Magnifying glass. Gun. Heart. Muscle.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 04 2012 23:08 GMT
#1266
With ET requesting replacement, guess I'll keep looking at 12.

Right now, I'm of town minds on him.

Pointing towards scum - He finds NSH suspicious because he thinks NSH started a bandwagon on FT as an alternative to BKE. BUT, he found FT scummy himself. So either he's got awful reasoning for being suspicious of NSH (I think he started a bandwagon on a guy that I found scummy), or he's got no decent explanation for his vote swap.


Pointing towards town - You guys have read his filter. Some posts in there just don't make any sense at all, or state things incorrectly. Go read his post about NSH being a ringlead and apparently rasta being his scumbuddy. + Show Spoiler +
On July 03 2012 06:43 Twelve wrote:
I'm hesitant to post this,but I have a feeling I may be killed tonight, and a REALLY strong feeling NoSmurfHere WILL NOT be Mafia killed tonight. I made a list of people who jumped on the mKmKmK lynch as I felt it was just an attempt of mafia to get a townie lurker lynched. As I went through the list of names using their filters, I came to some tentative conclusions.


My current read is that if there is a Ringleader in this game (godfather), it is NoSmurfHere.

+ Show Spoiler +
NoSmurfHere New Zealand. July 01 2012 10:25
Also your belief in "proof" probably suggests you shouldn't be playing mafia, given that most accurate reads are not based on anything anywhere close to proof.


I feel he may be breadcrumbing for a detective role check. It was just a note next to his name when I

Look at the interaction between NoSmurfHere and rastaban. After NoSmurfHere starts the bandwagon against mKmKmK(a lurker lynch I really didn't agree with), he seems very interested in a role claim from NoSmurfHere, perhaps trying to get a detective to waste a night and make a really dangerous "confirmed towny".


+ Show Spoiler +
On July 01 2012 00:53 rastaban wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2012 00:45 EchelonTee wrote:
On June 30 2012 14:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, please stop discussing role PMs. The OP clearly states:
All flavour will appear exactly as it is here.
This is true for all roles.

I don't want to discuss NoSmurfHere's wording of the claim; I'm focusing on the fact that he generically claimed Vanilla Townie, and mKmKmK reacting strangely at it ("vague post is vague") is an eye catcher.

Yeah let's not anger the host.

The other option is he is a blue acting strangely to it, but I am sure Mafia already thought of this if he isn't on their team so he is outed regardless of alignment. I think this is the easy and probably accurate lynch for today, so we should be thinking about pushing for a role claim from him.



I may be reaching, but again, I think I may wake up dead and wanted to get my thoughts out there.


12's thoughts here just don't make any sense to me. Like not townie, not scummy, just really misreading what happened. His post says that NSH wanted a ... role claim from himself? In order to get DT checked? Or something? Like, this is spectacularly good nonsense if it's crafted to make him look too odd to get lynched.

12, can you explain your theory here? Why did you think NSH was a godfather? Who was trying to get a role claim from who and how were they trying to waste DT checks? You posted that your theory couldn't be true, but I'd appreciate it if you'd just walk us through exactly what your theory was.

Then he says NSH started the FT bandwagon.

Now his most recent post
On July 05 2012 03:58 Twelve wrote:
Waste of a lynch guys. Focus on people who are pushing for me. Or enjoy the 6 mafia kps tonight.
Complete misunderstanding of how mafia's KP works.

I do want to note that I don't put much stock on this last post. Yes, he's wrong about mafia KP. Either he's legitimately wrong, or he was told that one great way to take pressure off himself would be to act like he didn't understand how mafia team mechanics worked. That's the perfect thing to be wrong about if, you know, you're getting seriously pressured today because people have a scumread on you.

You guys that are voting for him, do you think he's just pretending/being told to post like he doesn't understand what's going on?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 04 2012 23:08 GMT
#1267
EBWOP: Second line should read "I'm on two minds on him" and not "town minds"
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
July 04 2012 23:34 GMT
#1268
Is anyone else hung up on posts like those that are just...wrong?
Fe fi fo fum.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 04 2012 23:36 GMT
#1269
On July 05 2012 08:34 austinmcc wrote:
Is anyone else hung up on posts like those that are just...wrong?


That was my whole bit about getting newbie townie vibes from him.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 04 2012 23:38 GMT
#1270
I think 12 is insinuating that rasta and bugs are scum and that together they were trying to get the dt to check bugs.
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 23:40 GMT
#1271
My theory for NSH went like this:

I did not understand the mK bandwagon at all, and felt like it was mafia trying to get town to waste a lynch on a townie. It looked to me that if both Rastaban and NSH were scum, then there was a subtle play being made when NSH talked about there being no real "proof" in this game. Rastaban then starts asking for a roleclaim from NSH, which have lead to a false claim and a DT confirming it. It was a long shot, especially on D1.

+ Show Spoiler +
Waste of a lynch guys. Focus on people who are pushing for me. Or enjoy the 6 mafia kps tonight.

That was a typo should have been 3 kps.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#1272
Since you are here twelve, is casualman really your strongest read right now?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 23:41 GMT
#1273
##unvote

if causualman is just a troll I dont want to waste it, we really need to lynch scum tonight
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 23:42 GMT
#1274
i need to reread more, I'm kind of torn on casualman now. It seems you are all used to trolls in these games, which makes me kind of wonder why they are allowed in. I want to say BKE is my next highest scum read but im gonna rereade his filter.
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 04 2012 23:48 GMT
#1275
OK yea, BKE spends all of day two placing votes on who ever he wants, and once the Twelve lynch bandwagon takes off, he is 100% silent waiting for the day to play out. He was my origional scumread and his D2 play didnt really change anything there. ##vote: BKE
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
July 05 2012 00:06 GMT
#1276
I don't really like your response here twelve. Although he is kind of lurky, BKE's play has changed since day 1. He is is sharing reads and contributing and not just reacting against votes put on him.

Sorry buddy but my vote will stay now.

I am out.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#1277
np ShiaoPI , I had to try, I win if town wins. unfortunatly for town i flip green D: you all should worry a lot less about meta and a lot more about what is in front of you. gl hf
MajuGarzett
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
July 05 2012 00:13 GMT
#1278
On July 05 2012 09:09 Twelve wrote:
np ShiaoPI , I had to try, I win if town wins. unfortunatly for town i flip green D: you all should worry a lot less about meta and a lot more about what is in front of you. gl hf

Using that methodology I think you'd gain more votes. Meta plays a much larger part in the case on ET than on you.
Twelve
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
July 05 2012 00:18 GMT
#1279
well i don't know what else I could possibly say then, sorry i failed you town
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22412 Posts
July 05 2012 00:21 GMT
#1280
-.-

Ok, I'll vote ET again. If anyone believes in twelve, switch too.

Need 4 votes I think.

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