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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 15 2012 22:23 GMT
#69
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 16 2012 17:48 GMT
#104
On June 17 2012 02:41 HiroPro wrote:
House Chezinu, 5th Party Recruitment




Welcome everyone. This is the Director of Recruitment at House Chezinu speaking. Due to recent personnel shortages, we are now conducting a recruitment drive. Anyone who is a player in this game may join (excepting any and all self-identified House Chezinu enemies). To complete your application, you must go through three simple steps.

    1. Claim your role name
    2. Claim any and all powers, abilities, restrictions, or requirements that you possess
    3. Claim your win condition


All members of House Chezinu must also swear loyalty to all board members, whose names (excepting for mine) will be revealed at a later time.

Remember, the benefits are numerous, the downsides non-existent. Join House Chezinu, 5th Party and reap the rewards immediately.

All applications must be submitted by Sunday, Jun 17 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
[/center]

Are House Chezinu Town, Anti-Town or Neutral?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 16 2012 18:43 GMT
#128
On June 17 2012 03:35 talismania wrote:
Fuck yes I'm town for once.

Ok everyone listen up. Here's what's happening:

Mass Encrypted Roleclaim

(1) Go to http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/javascrypt.html

(2) Type in your role and win condition (I recommend doing this separately)

(3) Post the encrypted message here, and store the key somewhere you won't lose it.

(4) Play the game out normally

(5) In the event that you are going to claim your role and win condition, do so by posting the key to your encrypted message

__________________________


What this accomplishes:

This forces scum to fake claim NOW. They cannot wait to see what kinds of roles are in the game. They cannot wait to see what kind of win conditions are in the game. They must come up with whatever lie they want to make on Night 0. This is way harder than coming up with a good situational lie later in the game.

It doesn't hurt town at all. Scum gets no information from it, because everyone participates.

Important points:

EVERYONE PARTICIPATES. No exceptions. It doesn't hurt you if you're town, it only makes scum squirm a little. Even if you are vanilla townie, write "I am vanilla tonwie blahblahblah"

EVERYONE DOES THIS NIGHT 0. No exceptions. The longer you wait the more information scum gets to figure out how best to fake their role.

NO ONE POSTS THEIR KEY UNLESS IT IS NECESSARY. This should be obvious. But unless you're on the chopping block to be lynched, don't post your key.

______________________


I'll start:

My role:
+ Show Spoiler +

##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ UNUAF LVWWX VTNWQ RSJRQ UFHSW SECDA VUMEN VLUEB OSEUB USPRE
FBTBC NSPMB JOQFQ FWCIP DKMNV VUTQO GNBTP COMCC ATUGP RFRRK HQPAH
WWXJL OSDUD ETCWT GLNBA OMRJM UHDKR DVTPV SJSJU XOHVN IRJRW HIFMR
EFXKG GDNQP QRFML MJSAC EJASQ SKGWF BKAOU JHHGH DVDCP FGLMW EMSUS
PGWVP FPQHP TJSME EDFHA BQWEX LXQKC SEQFL XPGNN PKWFE NMKAN DCSBL
LPAET WTGAW PIMHS LDATX XXTDE WABHD QKTFL QAICQ MWNFE LOWUD XOBKQ
SXXEU CUTLQ LTKTC QMOEN UOHRV XWGJG WCSNT XBTGC MWGVN DAKLI ASWIS
SURSG MBAIW MLAFC HOXEH IEVNU MDIKP MWUHX QLDAT PWALQ VTMXL PPDKE
NGTXG JMHCA BDUAT SUKXQ OHTRU PASDO VJSDX GLADE UTSTS GKFQE LWGUM
XCPNO MIMGK OJTGR IASQP OXMDT ODOWN JQXMQ IKSMC FVNBV HLLVW NFNPW
INDCM HRSMX AANDE SIKGO UQBRR URSIW WTBRJ GBGKB ABDFP UWKGE OHXKL
RFSFD CWBMD PMOMC UWLUD WNRDJ FPLLM NQJBU JASEO UJWVB VQWWC TVXGS
HGDJF NCMSA ILAPU WNZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

My win condition:
+ Show Spoiler +

##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
ZZZZZ WXIAB HUWXM RSKDQ RDONU VCNWX AWIQJ QLNUJ CLSUA EXJNS DBHGN
ABXXC JRBIF PHFBC CBMCV GKTJU WVMAQ ONXAW GQDII GQJWB BJLSO WSBTB
MRVHH UXJWH SLMWV CHWMH LNKHU MHVHJ JUFCS MHPHX BKINW TOOLR PTBSJ
HEQNP BMLEQ CTTBG SJBEQ LWXLR ODXAN FMBRX IMQQD NUMQI FXKFB RHTTT
RUQUW ISARE UDUIJ GHKHR DRLDC SIXOW RDEXQ HDIVW HPVHQ FHFIG CKWBK
KEWDR VDUXL HFQIR MAWBC UBTFP URJFA RLFSN LFDOE WFMNG LOSSS UCGOQ
UGUVU CODHO NQMHE PHLQQ ECGLV PSZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message





Note: I added some spam text in the middle of my mesage in order to get longer results. I suggest you all do the same.


I'm not going to follow this. Having encrypted posts goes against the spirit of the game, and feels like borderline cheating. I've given out about it before and I also disallow it in any games that I host.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 16 2012 18:44 GMT
#129
EBWOP: Should refresh before posting
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 16 2012 22:37 GMT
#250
On June 17 2012 07:12 talismania wrote:
I have some setup info in my role PM that I can't figure out why I shouldn't share:

(1) There is a "King"
(2) There is a "Monarchist Activist"
(3) Several others of you know there's a Monarchist Activist, and some of you want to kill him. (so there's a wincon involving the death of the Monarchist Activist I'm guessing).

Anyone have anything else?

______


My random setup speculation:

with only 15 players one mafia team of 3 + a SK role is possible but not terribly likely. Too quick of a lylo. I think it's more likely that there's 2 anti-town teams of 2 players each with one kp apiece. Then at least 2 different kinds of third parties, and at least 5-6 town players.


Probably worth sharing, thanks for the info. I assume this is some sort of kingmaker + assassins scenario, in which case we need to be a bit careful. It would be pretty shit to have a situation where we lose if person x dies
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 17 2012 09:29 GMT
#289
House Chezinu is a joke based on a game where Chezinu was scum, and decided that his mafia teammates sucked. So he started his own smaller mafia team and recruited people into it instead. It has been used in a couple of games but is not alignment specific. Given the way this game has gone on, it seems to be a 3rd party mason circle or cult, with HiroPro's wincon being to recruit x number of players. Given how little we know about the game, I would argue that it's probably safer not to join rather than joining. While joining might give smaller advantages such as private communication, we have no idea what the drawbacks would be.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 17 2012 10:15 GMT
#291
On June 17 2012 19:04 EchelonTee wrote:
Conclusion: talking about is currently not a good use of town's time, am I right?


I wouldn't go that far, it's promoting discussion and we don't have a whole lot else to talk about until the day post. As the game goes on we might find out more about House Chezinu and then we can look back at what people said in a different light. Its probably better than saying nothing, though usually I'm against saying too much at night.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 17 2012 17:28 GMT
#352
On June 18 2012 02:27 BioSC wrote:
Is it just me, or did the bastard voting thread say "votes before and after the deadline don't count"? *Phoenix Wright Point* I spy a conundrum!


Hmm?
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 17 2012 21:09 GMT
#393
On June 18 2012 06:00 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 07:37 deconduo wrote:
On June 17 2012 07:12 talismania wrote:
I have some setup info in my role PM that I can't figure out why I shouldn't share:

(1) There is a "King"
(2) There is a "Monarchist Activist"
(3) Several others of you know there's a Monarchist Activist, and some of you want to kill him. (so there's a wincon involving the death of the Monarchist Activist I'm guessing).

Anyone have anything else?

______


My random setup speculation:

with only 15 players one mafia team of 3 + a SK role is possible but not terribly likely. Too quick of a lylo. I think it's more likely that there's 2 anti-town teams of 2 players each with one kp apiece. Then at least 2 different kinds of third parties, and at least 5-6 town players.


Probably worth sharing, thanks for the info. I assume this is some sort of kingmaker + assassins scenario, in which case we need to be a bit careful. It would be pretty shit to have a situation where we lose if person x dies


Took me a while, but I found this post again. Can you explain a bit more what you meant with this?

My role pm pretty much rules the "everybody loses if person X dies" scenario out, but the rest resonates well with my role pm.


Kingmaker has a couple of different variants, but the general way it works is usually the same. Each day the kingmaker chooses someone different to be the king. The king then has some sort of power, usually picking the day's lynch. In this game it could be extras votes in the lynch instead or something.

Assassins are a group of 3rd party SKs with some sort of KP, usually limited to one or two shots. Their objective is to kill a certain target, usually the king, before any other assassin or player does. When an assassin completes his goal he wins, and all other assassins lose. The other assassins are either removed from the game, converted to normal townes, or the game ends with the assassin being the sole victor.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 17 2012 22:09 GMT
#430
On June 18 2012 06:32 Acrofales wrote:
I don't know who I want to kill yet. So far I have a whole clump of scummy people and a number of people I think are town. That number is currently stuck at 1 1/2.

@Deconduo: how does your setup make sense with people, including myself, having a regular town win condition?

@Talismania: I guess you are claiming you did not get hit and have not been made king?


I'm not saying thats the setup, and all I know about the monarch stuff is from what has been said in the thread. There's nothing in my role PM that mentions it at all. I was just saying that it sounds similar to that sort of scenario and it has been done before, though I would be very surprised if it wasn't altered or changed. Also I have a regular (destroy anti-town) wincon as well, but that doesn't stop other wincons from taking precedence. For example, look at the end of WAW2 mafia. Especially considering this is Bastard mafia, anything could happen.

On June 18 2012 06:42 HiroPro wrote:
deconduo, what do you think about KB and MajuGarzett?


I think Hiro pointed out that people who allied with Chezinu were probably scum/survivors but I disagree. Wanting to increase your survival chances is a town trait for people who feel they have a good blue role, especially docs/cops. As for the individual people:

Maju hasn't posted a whole lot but I see nothing wrong with what he's said so far. His response to Hiro's accusations made sense, and he seems pretty solid so far. He hasn't set of any alarms on my end anyway.

KB on the other hand isn't looking so hot. Apart from the initial stuff with House Chezinu, his response to suspicions has been textbook newb scum, apologetic and non-confrontational. Townies tend to be more agressive against accusations because they KNOW they are innocent, whereas scum tend to try and compensate because they feel inherently guilty.

SO. I'm back.

Yesterday, I basically did a huge derp and didn't think about the consequences of joining House Chezinu. I did this not once, but on three different occasions. I realise this makes me look really scummy, so I'm going to explain again my whole train of thought why I did what I did.
I never considered the House to be made up by HiroPro although in hindsight it seems kinda obvious the mods wouldn't have made a faction that hard to balance.


Definitely red flags going off here, one to watch out for.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 21:52 GMT
#695
Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please?

I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 21:59 GMT
#697
On June 19 2012 06:53 EchelonTee wrote:
!! deconduo about to do something


deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:00 GMT
#700
On June 19 2012 06:59 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 06:52 deconduo wrote:
Hey talis, if you are telling the truth about being a dayvig can you post the following statement please?

I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town



I'm nervous - is that going to do something?

I am a dayvig. I am going to shoot within the next five hours. If I don't, I will be lynched.


Include the bit about the alignments please, they are important. Unless of course you want to claim 3rd party or scum
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:04 GMT
#705
On June 19 2012 07:01 talismania wrote:
I'm town - I've already claimed that. I don't know what your alignment is and I certainly don't lean town on you at the moment.

Do you want to get shot right now? What are you trying to do?


I'm a lie detector. I can tell if a post contains any falsehoods. Post exactly what I said to post now please. Assuming you are telling the truth I can verify you as town and dayvig.

I am a dayvig
I am town
Deconduo is town
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:09 GMT
#711
On June 19 2012 07:07 Drazerk wrote:
Dec is town alligned DT scanner thing
I am town
Drazerk is town


Drop the DT scanner part, that's not exactly what I am.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:11 GMT
#717
On June 19 2012 07:10 Drazerk wrote:
The first priority for townies should be to establish their own innocence by playing pro-town

I disagree the first priority should be to promote discussion and find scum who cares if people think you are town


Try this btw

Deconduo is town
Drazerk is town
Talismania is not town
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:12 GMT
#721
On June 19 2012 07:11 Drazerk wrote:
Deconduo is town
Drazerk is town
Talismania is not town


[image loading]

##OBJECTION
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:15 GMT
#726
I'm 99% sure Drazerk is town, there's no way a non-town would come out like that to try and get proven. If it comes back a lie it almost certainly means talis is town. If it comes back true, we lynch talis.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:16 GMT
#729
On June 19 2012 07:16 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 07:15 deconduo wrote:
I'm 99% sure Drazerk is town, there's no way a non-town would come out like that to try and get proven. If it comes back a lie it almost certainly means talis is town. If it comes back true, we lynch talis.


You're aware I haven't read my role PM right?


Oh lol.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
June 18 2012 22:17 GMT
#732
Also full roelclaim:

I am Phoenix Wright, the Objectivist
Once per game, I can quote a passage of someone and type ##OBJECTION, and the hosts will confirm or deny it openly in the thread, even if the original poster didn't know it.
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