Only if said scum does not have/does not use another action that night. In essence, a roleblocker stops One ability, where "Role" ability takes priority over "Faction" ability.

Acrofales

Spain17831 Posts

June 21 2012 20:25 GMT

#1468

So basically we're being trolled by the mods here.

There is a 3rd party (I can see no reason for town to use this role), who can completely annul the town KP and nobody knows who will decide the lynch except that 3rd party. Basically Nisani could give the KP to xksksksks tomorrow, then DropBear the day after and we'd be fucked.

I don't see much choice but to lynch him today, or roleblock him ad infinitum (which relies on Hyaach being town).

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

June 21 2012 20:34 GMT

#1469

At least we know how the game was balanced now...

No town KP only scum KP T_T

strongandbig

United States4858 Posts

June 21 2012 20:38 GMT

#1470

On June 22 2012 05:25 Acrofales wrote:
So basically we're being trolled by the mods here.

There is a 3rd party (I can see no reason for town to use this role), who can completely annul the town KP and nobody knows who will decide the lynch except that 3rd party. Basically Nisani could give the KP to xksksksks tomorrow, then DropBear the day after and we'd be fucked.

I don't see much choice but to lynch him today, or roleblock him ad infinitum (which relies on Hyaach being town).

I was about to say we could let Hyaach roleblock him forever but then scum could just kill Hyaach and we'd bever be able to lynch anyone again. I guess we should kill nisani...

talismania

United States2364 Posts

June 21 2012 20:40 GMT

#1471

So does dropbear's roleclaim make any sense given this game setup? Is there really a vengeful townie in a game where plurality lynch might not ever happen? So torn on who the last scum is.

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

June 21 2012 20:44 GMT

#1472

On June 22 2012 05:40 talismania wrote:
So does dropbear's roleclaim make any sense given this game setup? Is there really a vengeful townie in a game where plurality lynch might not ever happen? So torn on who the last scum is.

Its worth the risk because at worst we lose 1 town for 1 survivor which confirms another survivor

Acrofales

Spain17831 Posts

June 21 2012 20:53 GMT

#1473

So... while I'd rather lynch scum than 3rd party, I feel we can't bet a town victory on Hyaach roleblocking Nisani every night. We lynch Nisani.

Now. Lets start thinking about the future. Who is the final scum?

Options:

Currently not under suspicion:

Acro <--- town.

Tali <--- negligible chance. He claimed town vigi and shot his scumbuddy? Unlikely. There is also the deconduo lie detector and his overall townie play.

Deconduo <--- despite his horrible use of the lie detector and general disinterest in playing the game, it just seems improbable that he's scum.

Hiro/S&B <--- if they're anti-town, they're anti-town together and definitely not Maju's single scumbuddy.

Suspicions:

Drazerk <---- the reason he's not in the "above suspicion" list is because he didn't read his role PM before the lie detector. He looked townie through that, but it's easy to play townie if you don't have a clue what you are. The fact that he claimed VT and nobody else did makes him the least suspicious of everybody in here.

Hyaach <--- claimed roleblocker and has been confirmed as roleblocker. The question is whether he's TOWN roleblocker, though. His play was giving me a null read up until now, but the rolename is more scummy (in GoT mafia: Tyrion was scum) than townie. Additionally, roleblockers are more likely to be given to scum than to town. On the fence here.

Ghost <--- bulletproof survivor. His predecessor played like he didn't give a shit about the game. Spamming up the thread with well.. stuff. Ghost is better, but hasn't really done much either, except make this claim. It was the first roleclaim that I actually believed initially, though. On the fence here too.

Downright scummy:

Acrofales

Spain17831 Posts

June 21 2012 20:54 GMT

#1474

Damn. I didn't mean to hit post just yet... but anyway, the downright scummy players are DropBear and xksksks. I have not yet made up my mind between these two.

Drazerk

United Kingdom31255 Posts

June 21 2012 20:56 GMT

#1475

Tyrion is chaotic neutral as far as his name goes

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 21 2012 21:30 GMT

#1476

I believe Nisani's claim, and as much as I hate to admit it, he's probably right in that we should lynch him while we have the chance. This is a bastard game. What happens if the king stays the king after Nisani dies or something? I'd rather lose a town player and guarantee a plurality lynch than take a chance on the lynch being decided, more or less, at random for the rest of the game. I vote we hang him today.

##vote Nisani201

Gimme a minute to read up on xbnmn and DropBear. I'd rather lynch S+B, but I agree with Acro, in that finding Maju's scumbuddy is probably optimal, regardless of the fact that he and hiro claimed reverse mass mason (I'm gonna make that a thing) in thread.

Nisani201

United States1400 Posts

June 21 2012 21:33 GMT

#1477

Ghost there is no king right now. I choose one every night. It's really that simple.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 21 2012 21:41 GMT

#1478

@Nisani: I get that, but what are you getting at?

Maybe random isn't the right word. My point is, you have to chose someone as king, and then they decide who gets lynched. I'd prefer a plurality lynch to that mechanic.

HiroPro

United States2624 Posts

June 21 2012 21:51 GMT

#1479

On June 22 2012 05:09 talismania wrote:

Show nested quote +

house chezinu mvp of this game.

Mods > Town

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Bastard town => Where scumness is decided by lore and flipping coins.

ghost_403

United States1825 Posts

June 21 2012 21:57 GMT

#1480

I'm not a big fan of DropBear. He opens the game by pushing KB, then drops it after Maju flips because his single vote somehow exonerates him of all scumminess. It's a bad move on his part, but he was rather townish in how he stuck to his guns on that issue. Past that, the only thing he's really contributed is his case on Nisani. Take a look at his filter, he's not bringing anything to the town at all. Also, I don't like how he refuses to claim his role's name. Everyone else has, why not him? Very strange. He's either scum or very bad townie.

Now to look at xkcd. My ride home is almost here, so that might not get put up for a bit.