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On June 22 2012 01:44 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 01:43 HiroPro wrote:On June 22 2012 01:40 Drazerk wrote:Also since VT is guaranteed in the game and no one is counter claiming it does that mean I am confirmed VT?  Yea bro, I was hoping I could be confirmed survivor, but I'm not  We could always shoot your bro to make you one
You're a coldhearted person
On June 22 2012 01:45 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2012 01:41 HiroPro wrote:On June 22 2012 01:38 ghost_403 wrote:
Well, now, there's an interesting response.
Because I'm a neutral survivor, I don't really care about which side wins. But, as a survivor, what I do want is a short game, which means that it's in my best interest to be gunning for one side or the other. Being bulletproof, scum can't kill me, so that means I should be playing as pro-town as possible in this game.
You don't care. Why's that? Because I'm not bulletproof lol. If someone decides that I'm being too helpful to town, they can kill me. To be fair, if your roleclaim is in any way true, time is running out for scum. There's probably 1 scum, and possibly 1 3rd party hiding in the dodgy roleclaims. They can't afford to shoot 3rd party.
eh, probably true. I'm a little worried about a 3rd party having some kp, though.
You really should read my case lol. But w/e. Your choice.
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I breadcrumbed both our role names way before we claimed. The only way it's possible that we know each others' roles is either that we are telling the truth or that we have a QT somewhere together.
Since it makes no sense whatsoever that we would be scum, we must be telling the truth.
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Scum make gambits
I do it all the time...
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So maju's partner is either xsksc, hyaach, or dropbear.
for xsksc he went for a "I would never make that claim as scum" claim. I think he even said that.
for hyaach it would be the lie-as-little-as-possible route. he is a roleblocker and did what he said, but is in fact scum.
for dropbear he just made up his role to stop himself from being lynched.
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Nisani since you've already met a wincon (survive longer than the AMA I guess) can you just go ahead and claim and explain wtf is going on with the king? Were you roleblocked?
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Here's where I breadcrumbed that Hiro is Yugi:
On June 18 2012 02:23 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 00:21 EchelonTee wrote:
Probably, HiroPro is going to continue trolling and not give useful info, or come out and say "oh that was all a fake just to see how people would react". Really though, if there ends up being a super elaborate House Chezinu thing, then unless it literally changes my alignment, I can't think of that many possibilities where it's bad if I "join". Only things that come to mind are maybe somehow control my vote, Drazerk suggested something about "they recruit you to cult but don't change alignment", which I don't get, stuff like that, but this is all just idle speculation lol.
Talismania, where are you? I need more sanity plox You think Hiro's been playing games with us? That would be pretty unfortunate.
Yugioh is the "King of Games."
My next post in the thread indicated that this was a breadcrumb:
On June 18 2012 02:24 strongandbig wrote:What an odd thing to say.
I quoted fourface, but you should agree that what he was saying was more stupid than "odd." What was "odd" was what I said, because it was a breadcrumb.
Then here's where I breadcrumbed my own role name:
On June 19 2012 21:38 strongandbig wrote:
Oh and Drazerk you may have everyone else fooled, but not me!
You're from the UK so I'll put it this way: my chthonic deities, my vast nibbling niebelung will nibble on you yet!
Chthonic deities are underground god-like or demon-like creatures of immense power. Specifically, in this case, a Balrog.
The reference was to a quote from the mayor of London, who is a British Conservative. This is a Bread Crumb.
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ooh, nice breadcrumbs. Those are BH-quality breadcrumbs 
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On June 22 2012 02:07 Drazerk wrote:
Scum make gambits
I do it all the time...
What I mean is it doesn't make sense for us to be scum in terms simply of game mechanics; there haven't been enough KP.
First, 3 repeating nightly scum KP in a 15 player game would be ridiculous. There might be another third party with one-time KP, but the game would go way too fast if scum could kill a third of the town every night.
Second, there was only one scum KP last night, plus Acro's claimed vig shot.
Third, why the fuck would Hiro organize a massclaim for us to claim to be linked, if we were scum? There was no need to do so, except to try and help catch more scum.
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A) scum don't have to have KP especially in a mini
B) Its called a gambit its exactly that - A gambit
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On June 22 2012 02:07 Drazerk wrote:
Scum make gambits
I do it all the time...
Whatever, you're just pissed that I was tunneling you and attacking you for not reading your role PM.
If you had a "third-party" read on me (never actually saying you thought I was scum), and you had a town read on Hiro, then why in the world would you suddenly want to waste a day cycle and lynch one of us? Other than just being a dick to us?
I actually want town to win and I've been trying to help you guys out, because like Ghost said the faster the game ends the more likely I am to stay alive. Do you really think it's more important to be a dick to me, rather than lynch Nisani, who refuses to cooperate with town, or DropBear, who almost certainly made up his roleclaim (don't forget, he claimed that his role was "green" not "blue", despite having a power), or anyone else who actually might be the other part of the scum team that we actually know exists?
Ugh, Drazerk... sigh.
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YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ALIVE TO WIN
If you actually want town to win you will have to admit we need to rule out the possibility of you pulling a pretty huge gamble to blind side us. Seriously if you're town or town aligned you should never be afraid of death especially when your win condition doesn't even need you alive.
And I'm not even saying you have to be todays lynch like acro I think your a third priority but you must die at some point.
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On June 22 2012 02:47 Drazerk wrote:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ALIVE TO WIN
If you actually want town to win you will have to admit we need to rule out the possibility of you pulling a pretty huge gamble to blind side us. Seriously if you're town or town aligned you should never be afraid of death especially when your win condition doesn't even need you alive.
And I'm not even saying you have to be todays lynch like acro I think your a third priority but you must die at some point.
I think this is fine, s&b.
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One small point, if we do lynch (hell if we even have the power to lynch) DropBear at some point, one of the strongandbig/hiropro should be the last vote on him. If he's telling the truth I don't want to accidentally lose two town players and be in a weird situation where the third parties get to decide which team wins.
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On June 22 2012 02:53 talismania wrote:
One small point, if we do lynch (hell if we even have the power to lynch) DropBear at some point, one of the strongandbig/hiropro should be the last vote on him. If he's telling the truth I don't want to accidentally lose two town players and be in a weird situation where the third parties get to decide which team wins.
I love this idea tali ♥
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I thought townies were good guys. But you're actually scheming monsters too
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If you could win alone as town I'd probably just murder everyone Hiro
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If everyone has claimed already then I will claim. Is there anyone who hasn't claimed yet?
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On June 21 2012 18:56 Acrofales wrote:
Nisani: if your extra wincon is fulfilled, why don't you want to fullclaim? Why are you deliberately withholding information from town that can no longer hurt you?
We've been starved for info on the MA/king and if you are in fact the MA, you can clarify it all, but are choosing not to (insofar as I understand the game, just to fuck with town). If you are not the MA, you can clarify your wincon, because you've already fulfilled it and we can go on from there.
As is, you're withholding information on the setup from a town that desperately needs information on the setup. I wish we could pull the lynch forward and kill you right now.
An interesting question.
I have already fulfilled my extra win but now all I have to do is avoid my extra loss.
It's ok to think that my play this game is weird-- it is, but you should come to expect weird play from this game. It is, after all, a bastard game.
All of my actions this game have had a clear motive to them. I don't want to "fuck with town," but unfortunately the situation demands it.
All will be made clear when I flip. Ohhh, this is so exciting!
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On June 22 2012 03:00 Drazerk wrote:If you could win alone as town I'd probably just murder everyone Hiro
Drazerk and I are alike in many aspects.
We both post proliferously
We are both Europeans
And given the choice we would both murder everybody.
This time I'm hoping Drazerk is town, instead of a backstabbing scum bastard.
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On June 22 2012 04:29 Nisani201 wrote:
If everyone has claimed already then I will claim. Is there anyone who hasn't claimed yet?
No.
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Alright then.
I am the Monarchist Activist.
Surprise!
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