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Just fulfilled my town meta lol; got accused d1
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On June 18 2012 15:06 Drazerk wrote:
S+B how is that a real case?
you're using evidence we know now to incriminate past beliefs which seems pretty questionable to me but i'll give you a break as my play style leads to myself being an easy band wagon the same way kenpachi is.
Also with Talismania forcing everyone to make a case except himself its bad cases like this that need to be looked at and questioned as I just got a huge third party vibe from S+B who just wants to survive.
The only new information we gained is that you are wrong about the cult thing. That's not at all the center point of my case.
Trying to shut down discussion is like the main mafia agenda bro. You were trying to get people to stop talking about chezinu before we had any idea whether it was pro town or not.
And seriously? You're saying you're like Kenpachi? Drazerk, you're not kenpachi. He gets away with posting trolling and content less one-liners because it's all he ever does and he doesn't give a fuck about the game most of the time. You are capable of being much more helpful than that. Plus, you actually care about the game.
What I see from you this game is a pattern of trying to avoid being the subject of scrutiny.
"I'm going to die soon"
"I'm going on a tunnelling spree against this chezinu thing trololo"
"I'm an easy bandwagon because I play like kenpachi"
"Ignore Me!!!"
If you really are town, then stop trying to play like Kenpachi. Your response to my case makes me think you are even scummier, with the "I'm an easy bandwagon like kenpachi" thing, but at least the post itself was more than one line and contained some actual reasoning. Post more like that, except not scummy.
and as for your third party accusation, that also fits into the pattern of slipperiness. Just because in the last game there was a lot of third party, it makes "your case is bad, you must be third party" an easy thing to throw around. The fact that you're trying to switch focus from your alignment to mine does not make you look any better.
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On June 18 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Reflections regarding EchelonTee; 1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE. He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it. 2) On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic 3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote:
well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 4) projected moraleOn June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote:
this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 5) there is no mafia faction lolololo - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town.
-His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee you're gay. dickhead.
People who don't have anything to do with this game should stay the fuck out. I meant gay as in too easy like a hydra bust or dropping tanks on cliffs surrounding natural. GTFO
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On June 18 2012 21:35 FourFace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Reflections regarding EchelonTee; 1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE. He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it. 2) On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic 3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote:
well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 4) projected moraleOn June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote:
this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 5) there is no mafia faction lolololo - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town.
-His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee you're gay. dickhead. People who don't have anything to do with this game should stay the fuck out. I meant gay as in too easy like a hydra bust or dropping tanks on cliffs surrounding natural. GTFO
On April 02 2012 05:14 Radfield wrote:
I'm happy to discuss this further via PM if you like Fourface. Basically the gist is this: If he wants to call your post stupid, I'm pretty ok with that(particularly since he's not calling you stupid, which I would have more of a problem with). On the other hand, using the term gay as an insult alienates other forum members based on their sexual orientation, which I am not ok with.
Again, I'm more than happy to discuss this in depth via PM if you prefer.
gtfo
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On June 18 2012 21:37 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 21:35 FourFace wrote:On June 18 2012 21:18 marvellosity wrote:On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:Reflections regarding EchelonTee; 1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE. He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it. 2) On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic 3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote:
well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 4) projected moraleOn June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote:
this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 5) there is no mafia faction lolololo - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town.
-His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee you're gay. dickhead. People who don't have anything to do with this game should stay the fuck out. I meant gay as in too easy like a hydra bust or dropping tanks on cliffs surrounding natural. GTFO Show nested quote +On April 02 2012 05:14 Radfield wrote:
I'm happy to discuss this further via PM if you like Fourface. Basically the gist is this: If he wants to call your post stupid, I'm pretty ok with that(particularly since he's not calling you stupid, which I would have more of a problem with). On the other hand, using the term gay as an insult alienates other forum members based on their sexual orientation, which I am not ok with.
Again, I'm more than happy to discuss this in depth via PM if you prefer. gtfo
Different host .. plus you call me gay and a dickhead .. now gtfo I don't give a fuck if you're homosexual or not - there was nothing that indicated any connection to sexual preference, stop acting up. gtfo
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If you have something wrong with a player's posting in this game, feel free to PM him or me. Please don't clump up the thread with useless discussion like that.
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Is marvellosity ETs smurf btw? marvellous ET?
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On June 18 2012 21:13 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 20:03 DropBear wrote:
Lol Acrofales that first post started off with the lyrics from the matchbox 20 song 3am because it was 3am my time. I was saying that I don't want to join house Chezinu, whats the problem there? I very specifically took a stance against joining, how is that blending?
No shit Hiro never mentioned the King. I thought his recruitment drive thing was cos he was allied with the king and was asking him if it was true.
You don't mind my post as to saying why I find KB suspicious, but then you don't think its a reason to want him dead? That's a paradox. You can't like my reasoning and then tell me its bad reasoning. I want KB dead and I stand by that. You have omitted several of my posts that also indicate that I don't trust him.
This case seems poorly thought out man. I wouldn't go so far as to say manufactured, but poorly thought out.
If you don't think KB is town, why would you not want him dead as well? I still don't understand how you ever got a link between Hiro and the king... it makes no sense. You didn't "very specifically take a stance against Chezinu", you said you didn't trust them "yet", which is about the same as saying nothing. Drazerk took a stance against Chezinu. I took a stance against Chezinu. Talismania made his opinon on Chezinu clear (saying he wanted more info before considering them). Nisani and KB also had a clear stance on Chezinu. You just blended, making a post that can be interpreted either way. The same is your early pressure on KB: at the time it was good. It was a correctly voiced suspicion of some suspicious shit. However, he answered your suspicions. Your only real post about KB since then was "I want him dead". I guess when you say you've posted "other stuff on KB" indicating you don't trust him, you are referring to this: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 11:47 DropBear wrote:On June 17 2012 05:15 KharadBanar wrote:On June 17 2012 04:50 DropBear wrote:Something about this post from KharadBanar seems a bit off. On June 17 2012 04:04 KharadBanar wrote:
If you read HiroPro's posts explaining how House Chezinu operates, you will come to the realisation that this isn't exactly going to happen. If they would tell you everything right from the get-go, they would lose some leverage after all because you don't need to join their organisation to get all that info, no? Everything comes at a price, and you as a Mafia player should be able to understand that.
By the way, the reason I am hesitant to give my roleclaim to them is that I Do Not Want potential scum members of the House to see my role. This should go for every townie: If you join The House and a scum member sees your role because of it, you are giving information to the whole scum team. The scum team operates on an information advantage already, and there is no need to let them get further ahead. So don't do it unless you have a good reason. This is a whole bunch of filler really. You can say I don't want to join cos of lack of trust, why bother with the extended spiel about how giving info to scum is bad? Why crap on about how they can't tell everything? Are you trying to look like you are contributing? You also don't seem to be including yourself in the townies you speak of, are you a third party KB? Welp, there goes my "ignoring The HOUSE" stance, because I want to explain myself: I bother with the extended spiel about giving info to scum because I do not think everyone in this thread had realised this by then. The scum team would presumably be very interested in getting one (exactly one) of their players into The HOUSE so they can use him as an information link between all the players in The HOUSE and their own team. We (the town players) are all on our own until we join The HOUSE, but when we join The HOUSE to have a side conversation in there, that one scum player will be very happy to listen in on that and pass it on to his team mates. This is why I don't think that joining The HOUSE is advantageous to us. Finally, if we look at the extreme case where everyone but the anti-HOUSE players joins The HOUSE, we have a very weird situation where (I think) the Board of The HOUSE knows everyone's alignment but everyone else doesn't, and I have no idea who would profit from that but I don't want to try it out. I just wanted to "crap on about how they can't tell everything" because I thought about the issue and wanted to share my thoughts about it with you, which doesn't strike me as a very bad thing to do. Oh wow words words words this makes me think something is off about you even more. If we have any blues please kill/check him tonight. + Show Spoiler [Other stuff] +
Talismani, I don't have this information so are this king and monarchist activist person you speak of related or unrelated? My wikipedia search of what a monarchist activist is says that they support the crown, but may also support someone who has been deposed or rightfully belongs there
Does the monarchist activist support the current King or another one? I am guessing another one, as you say some people need to kill the activist. It makes sense that the current King and his subjects would want any challengers dead.
Furthermore, HiroPro I'm guessing you aren't the king himself but are allied with him/her? You still haven't actually given a reason to kill him. Which comes together with my final answer to you: why do you think KharadBanar is scum. I think he's not town. I am not yet sure he's anti-town and don't find his behaviour actually scummy... it seems far more likely that he's a survivor or some other non-helpful third party. My priorities are on finding and killing scum. So far, you're still my favourite target and this defense of yours is unconvincing. I don't mind being wrong, though. How about you tell me why KB is scum and should die.
Yes he did answer my suspicions. With a post that made me more suspicious of him. I accused him of talking a lot and saying nothing, he replied, his reply was more of the same.
I think he is scum because he made a slip that is not including himself among town.
I think he is scum because of his constant apologising which shows inherent guilt.
I think he is scum because of his flailing around based on popular opinion regarding house chezinu on night0 trying desperately not to offend anybody.
I think he is scum because of his large wordy but contentless post saying things like "giving mafia information is bad" in 3 paragraphs that make it look like he is helping but he isn't.
I think he is scum rather than a third party because Nisani is defending him and Nisani is dodgy as shit. Nisani defends him from both xcxkc or however you spell it and also myself.
On June 18 2012 10:19 Nisani201 wrote:
I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment.
He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy.
On June 18 2012 10:19 Nisani201 wrote:
I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment.
He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy.
As for this first post I made which you keep bringing up, I said I wouldn't join. And I didn't join. My actions speak for themselves.
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Whups wrong second quote
On June 18 2012 10:26 Nisani201 wrote:
The third point is lacking "context." He accuses KB of being diplomatic with the horse chezinu but in reality that is not true.
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On June 18 2012 19:25 Acrofales wrote:
as I am leaning increasingly towards some third party role for KB, which may or may not be anti-town, but is probably not (pure) scum.
In this sort of game, I want to kill 3rd party even more, given that to win we have to remove all anti-town elements, which 3rd party/SK definitely falls under. For all we know, there might not even be "pure" scum in this game.
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On June 18 2012 21:34 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 15:06 Drazerk wrote:
S+B how is that a real case?
you're using evidence we know now to incriminate past beliefs which seems pretty questionable to me but i'll give you a break as my play style leads to myself being an easy band wagon the same way kenpachi is.
Also with Talismania forcing everyone to make a case except himself its bad cases like this that need to be looked at and questioned as I just got a huge third party vibe from S+B who just wants to survive. The only new information we gained is that you are wrong about the cult thing. That's not at all the center point of my case. Trying to shut down discussion is like the main mafia agenda bro. You were trying to get people to stop talking about chezinu before we had any idea whether it was pro town or not. And seriously? You're saying you're like Kenpachi? Drazerk, you're not kenpachi. He gets away with posting trolling and content less one-liners because it's all he ever does and he doesn't give a fuck about the game most of the time. You are capable of being much more helpful than that. Plus, you actually care about the game. What I see from you this game is a pattern of trying to avoid being the subject of scrutiny. "I'm going to die soon" "I'm going on a tunnelling spree against this chezinu thing trololo" "I'm an easy bandwagon because I play like kenpachi" "Ignore Me!!!" If you really are town, then stop trying to play like Kenpachi. Your response to my case makes me think you are even scummier, with the "I'm an easy bandwagon like kenpachi" thing, but at least the post itself was more than one line and contained some actual reasoning. Post more like that, except not scummy. and as for your third party accusation, that also fits into the pattern of slipperiness. Just because in the last game there was a lot of third party, it makes "your case is bad, you must be third party" an easy thing to throw around. The fact that you're trying to switch focus from your alignment to mine does not make you look any better.
You have a quote from me in your signature -Town fuck up. Scum do not. Scum WANT discussion.
They are not going to be wishy washy they have their game plan worked out from the first hour and that is how they are going to play.
I am going to die soon? - 5th party against me and a day vigi I have no intention of pleasing.
People who ignore me burn or it you should know this by now.
1 line posts are perfectly fine and probably more of a town behaviour as it means quick irrational posting rather than carefully laid out plans.
This is a bastard game I am going to throw out every possibility there is
And yes I still think you are third party for submitted to tali's demands
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On June 18 2012 23:29 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 19:25 Acrofales wrote:
as I am leaning increasingly towards some third party role for KB, which may or may not be anti-town, but is probably not (pure) scum.
In this sort of game, I want to kill 3rd party even more, given that to win we have to remove all anti-town elements, which 3rd party/SK definitely falls under. For all we know, there might not even be "pure" scum in this game.
Well, SK is pure scum. You could see him as a second scum faction with only 1 person on it 
However, I doubt this game has a SK: he would've shot N0 and nobody has claimed being hit. What I meant with not-town, but not anti-town 3rd party was more like a survivor. Their wincon can line up with town's quite well and I wouldn't consider them anti-town off the bat. What redeams KB slightly for his N0 dodgyness is this post:
On June 18 2012 06:52 KharadBanar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:43 Nisani201 wrote:
Some other points to make:
If you are the "king" then you should claim that you are, as well as the powers you have.
I also don't like the case on Maju I don't think a King claim would be in order right now, at least if he hasn't got some crazy power like being bulletproof. We probably have Assassins in this setup who are just waiting to find out who he is so they can kill him and win.
This is a very good point, and if the setup speculation that people are out to kill the king is right, then it is a good thing to point out. I don't think it's enough, but if his wincon is not aligned with town, and instead he has to kill the king and/or MA, I don't think he would've made this post when he made it.
That leaves scum, but I don't see a scum motive in his N0 play. There is no real reason for scum to take any kind of active PUBIC stance regarding House Chezinu until a lot more is known about it. There's plenty of reason to try to infiltrate it, but that was not what KB was doing. I will have to relook over his filter, because there's something that is off about his posting (and I want to compare his play here to the Newbie game we were in together), but the cases against him so far don't convince me that he is scum. That leaves some strange 3rd party, and we need more setup info to speculate on whether killing 3rd parties is useful.
Other than that, I agree he is very dodgy. His case on Hyaach is feeble: it's basically taking the case against him and saying "look, this guy also played terribly!"
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On June 18 2012 23:55 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 21:34 strongandbig wrote:On June 18 2012 15:06 Drazerk wrote:
S+B how is that a real case?
you're using evidence we know now to incriminate past beliefs which seems pretty questionable to me but i'll give you a break as my play style leads to myself being an easy band wagon the same way kenpachi is.
Also with Talismania forcing everyone to make a case except himself its bad cases like this that need to be looked at and questioned as I just got a huge third party vibe from S+B who just wants to survive. The only new information we gained is that you are wrong about the cult thing. That's not at all the center point of my case. Trying to shut down discussion is like the main mafia agenda bro. You were trying to get people to stop talking about chezinu before we had any idea whether it was pro town or not. And seriously? You're saying you're like Kenpachi? Drazerk, you're not kenpachi. He gets away with posting trolling and content less one-liners because it's all he ever does and he doesn't give a fuck about the game most of the time. You are capable of being much more helpful than that. Plus, you actually care about the game. What I see from you this game is a pattern of trying to avoid being the subject of scrutiny. "I'm going to die soon" "I'm going on a tunnelling spree against this chezinu thing trololo" "I'm an easy bandwagon because I play like kenpachi" "Ignore Me!!!" If you really are town, then stop trying to play like Kenpachi. Your response to my case makes me think you are even scummier, with the "I'm an easy bandwagon like kenpachi" thing, but at least the post itself was more than one line and contained some actual reasoning. Post more like that, except not scummy. and as for your third party accusation, that also fits into the pattern of slipperiness. Just because in the last game there was a lot of third party, it makes "your case is bad, you must be third party" an easy thing to throw around. The fact that you're trying to switch focus from your alignment to mine does not make you look any better. You have a quote from me in your signature -Town fuck up. Scum do not. Scum WANT discussion. They are not going to be wishy washy they have their game plan worked out from the first hour and that is how they are going to play. I am going to die soon? - 5th party against me and a day vigi I have no intention of pleasing. People who ignore me burn or it you should know this by now. 1 line posts are perfectly fine and probably more of a town behaviour as it means quick irrational posting rather than carefully laid out plans. This is a bastard game I am going to throw out every possibility there is And yes I still think you are third party for submitted to tali's demands
Really Drazerk. YOU are saying this of all people? Do you really want me to link to Holy Roman, with your infinite amount of senseless one-liners? Maybe you fucked up in there somewhere, but you managed to make yourself so inoccuous that you flew under the radar until it was basically too late.
Your strategy was basically exactly the same that game as it has been so far this game... and you're using that strategy as an example of pro-town play?! The mind boggles.
PS. I don't know what your town meta looks like...
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On June 19 2012 00:02 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 23:55 Drazerk wrote:On June 18 2012 21:34 strongandbig wrote:On June 18 2012 15:06 Drazerk wrote:
S+B how is that a real case?
you're using evidence we know now to incriminate past beliefs which seems pretty questionable to me but i'll give you a break as my play style leads to myself being an easy band wagon the same way kenpachi is.
Also with Talismania forcing everyone to make a case except himself its bad cases like this that need to be looked at and questioned as I just got a huge third party vibe from S+B who just wants to survive. The only new information we gained is that you are wrong about the cult thing. That's not at all the center point of my case. Trying to shut down discussion is like the main mafia agenda bro. You were trying to get people to stop talking about chezinu before we had any idea whether it was pro town or not. And seriously? You're saying you're like Kenpachi? Drazerk, you're not kenpachi. He gets away with posting trolling and content less one-liners because it's all he ever does and he doesn't give a fuck about the game most of the time. You are capable of being much more helpful than that. Plus, you actually care about the game. What I see from you this game is a pattern of trying to avoid being the subject of scrutiny. "I'm going to die soon" "I'm going on a tunnelling spree against this chezinu thing trololo" "I'm an easy bandwagon because I play like kenpachi" "Ignore Me!!!" If you really are town, then stop trying to play like Kenpachi. Your response to my case makes me think you are even scummier, with the "I'm an easy bandwagon like kenpachi" thing, but at least the post itself was more than one line and contained some actual reasoning. Post more like that, except not scummy. and as for your third party accusation, that also fits into the pattern of slipperiness. Just because in the last game there was a lot of third party, it makes "your case is bad, you must be third party" an easy thing to throw around. The fact that you're trying to switch focus from your alignment to mine does not make you look any better. You have a quote from me in your signature -Town fuck up. Scum do not. Scum WANT discussion. They are not going to be wishy washy they have their game plan worked out from the first hour and that is how they are going to play. I am going to die soon? - 5th party against me and a day vigi I have no intention of pleasing. People who ignore me burn or it you should know this by now. 1 line posts are perfectly fine and probably more of a town behaviour as it means quick irrational posting rather than carefully laid out plans. This is a bastard game I am going to throw out every possibility there is And yes I still think you are third party for submitted to tali's demands Really Drazerk. YOU are saying this of all people? Do you really want me to link to Holy Roman, with your infinite amount of senseless one-liners? Maybe you fucked up in there somewhere, but you managed to make yourself so inoccuous that you flew under the radar until it was basically too late. Your strategy was basically exactly the same that game as it has been so far this game... and you're using that strategy as an example of pro-town play?! The mind boggles. PS. I don't know what your town meta looks like...
You was in a mason circle with me!
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There are some people who are saying that we should be focusing on lynching third parties. This is flat-out wrong and blatantly anti-town. This is what scum want - they want us to lynch third parties during the day and then they can night-kill townies.
Third parties would be neutral in this setup; it doesn't matter how many of them are alive as long as we kill everyone who is anti-town.
Anti-town will have a clear motivation (to focus the lynch on townies or third parties). Third parties will only care about whatever their objective is and their own life.
I think KB and Nisani201 are linked survivors of some kind (if you look at Bastard 1, the survivor roles could win by not only surviving themselves but also having someone else live). This would explain why they are so close together (KB decided to form an alliance with House Chezinu right after Nisani201, while Nisani201 has defended KB in a nonsensical manner) and why the cases they have put forth have been short and never followed up on (they simply don't care who gets lynched). And ultimately I don't see a reason why as scum they would be so open to forming an alliance with House Chezinu.
If someone wants to shoot them, go right ahead. They're clearly not helping town. But I think we should be focusing on other targets for our lynch.
On June 18 2012 20:59 FourFace wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Reflections regarding EchelonTee; 1) ETs first 11 posts are all about House Chezinu cheers, more specifically on and off about it being a cult or not.. like playing ping pong with my patience = the ball, and him and Drazerk the players. I call it scum pong that can, at it's finest, make you want to slit your wrist while trying to read the thread like in LVI Toad vs VE. He says he called it as trolling but he simply enumerated all the possibilities not definitely opting for either. He also states the intention of being part of a mason circle that anyone can join and is being established on n0 - which means you have no clue about the alignment of the players yet and thus it's very likely that scum join the circle. Technically it's not a mason circle and one is supposed to be weary and cautious upon joining under these particular circumstances but the fact that he takes the words mason circle in his mouth and repeatedly chews it over is scummy imo A town player would see the lack of benefit in this whole endeavor and stfu about it. 2) On June 17 2012 22:55 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm not feeling KB quite yet, I'd say 201 is a better lynch. Thoughts? That's pathetic 3) 13th post About House Chezinu (hiccup+burp, excuse me) again but this time pay attention and think for a minute On June 17 2012 22:58 EchelonTee wrote:
well, I'm not sending my alignment to anyone as an application or whatever the hell, so if that's the actual way to join, then I'm not joining. If it's a mason circle, I want to be part of it. Simple as that. Call me scum for that if you want, I want more info on this whole she-bang. ET is so into mason circles, right? But here is the perfect opportunity to have a clean mason circle with no scum in it unless they claim scum via the application. I mean you send your application to the mods.. they announce your role and wincon in the circle and then you're good to chat among fellow confirmed townies but instead this is exactly what he doesn't want because as scum he would drop his disguise for what? A couple of third parties and townies because the MA wouldn't be so stupid to join and reveal himself like that and at this point ET must've also come to this conclusion. TL;DR: ET says he wants in on a potentially corrupted to hell mason circle but when the perspective arises to be in a perfectly sanitized pro-town mason circle he changes his mind. 4) projected moraleOn June 18 2012 00:17 EchelonTee wrote:
this game was a lot more fun about 8 pages ago, sad I missed out I've read somewhere that scum always points out the negative aspects is one of those times. He's saying this game sux, you all suck you are boring for fucks sake entertain me. This + the scum pong with Drazerk is reason enough for me to vote for you, because these passive and subtle blows to morale outweigh any active trolling attempts in harmfulness. 5) there is no mafia faction lolololo - which someone said scum would want town to believe and I agree. Also in the same post a half-ass accusation of Maju because he is trending. On June 18 2012 03:10 EchelonTee wrote:
if no one claims save, then I guess no mafia faction lolololol
totally called it that Chezinu was fake :p
Maju looks scummy, yah; he looked a lot like that in TL LV. I needa see if he has any older games where he's town.
-His first newbie scum game when he was town, he was more forthright and called people scum and stuff, unlike this game. Not a bad lynch, looks scummy. 6) So basically he thinks he can get away with voting for those who other made cases against and are the most talked about suspicion-wise. On June 18 2012 11:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I support either a KB lynch or a Maju lynch. I read one of KB's newbie town game and he actually sounded townie and stuff.
Do people not think Maju is scummy?
Gay, and lazy and careless imo. ##Vote: EchelonTee
This is a good case against ET. ET obviously cares about the lynch as he is comfortable throwing out a list of people he finds weird. But he doesn't pressure these people, he doesn't make any substantiated reads on any of them, he doesn't make cases.
In the beginning of the game he tried to lead the discussion into useless stuff about the way Toad played in LV. He says that he wants to join a mason circle without revealing his alignment. This is scummy; all he wants is to influence others. He speculates that there may not even be mafia in this game: S&B and FourFace are right: this is what mafia want us to think.
He talks about fulfilling his town meta by being accused. He's trying to defend himself without actually saying anything or without going after FourFace.
This is not town play at all, especially for ET. Look at his filter in Magic:The Gathering Mini Mafia. ET is very aggressive early on, extremely keen on pressuring people, and actually provides reasoning when he calls people suspicious. That is not how he has played this game.
##Vote: EchelonTee
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MajuGarzett, get in here and give me some reads. The way you responded to me was townie, but that doesn't mean you can just lurk all day and avoid scumhunting.
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Focusing on third party != focusing on lynching third party
That is all
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On June 19 2012 02:08 Drazerk wrote:
Focusing on third party != focusing on lynching third party
That is all
On June 18 2012 23:29 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 19:25 Acrofales wrote:
as I am leaning increasingly towards some third party role for KB, which may or may not be anti-town, but is probably not (pure) scum.
In this sort of game, I want to kill 3rd party even more, given that to win we have to remove all anti-town elements, which 3rd party/SK definitely falls under. For all we know, there might not even be "pure" scum in this game.
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