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Good evening!
HiroPro's "House" bullshit just proves that you shouldn't be too quick to make friends with people you have zero information about. An anti-town player could just as easily have typed all that flavour out, and an anti-town player with influence over you, however slight it may be, is never a good thing.
Anyway, I just finished re-reading the thread, and KharadBanar strikes me pretty heavily as anti-town.
1. Proclaims House Chezinu to be fish, and that he's "not convinced."
2. Sees Nisani's alliance proposal as a good idea, does a u-turn and offers the same, also talks about "future deals"..whatever that means.
3.On June 17 2012 04:48 KharadBanar wrote:
This in turn leads me to the opinion that Drazerk is very much right in ignoring The HOUSE for now. I will do so from now on (I'll not play against HiroPro or his faction since we are allies, but I'm not going to mention them too much in my posting) and I believe it is wise for you to do the same.
This post is very interesting, he has literally no way of telling Hiro's alignment this early in the game, and yet he doesn't want to discuss Hiro and his House, nor does he want to play against it since they are allies. I have a hard time believing someone with a town agenda would just consent to live and let live, without asking questions. This leads me to believe he is some sort of 3rd Party survivor/anti-town.
##vote: KharadBanar
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Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol.
In response to Nisanis vote -
On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.
xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc
Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town?
As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead.
I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution.
On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.
On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him.
On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.
Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical.
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I want KB dead. Let's geddim. He is running scared and trying desperately to appear helpful but not actually saying anything.
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People currently on my "has contributed and probably shouldn't be shot" list:
--Nisani206 for a case (albeit weak) on xsksc
--xsksc for his case on KB and defense of himself
People on my "I really want to shoot them just because" list:
--The twins of trolling, FourFace and Drazerk
People on my "hasn't met one of my conditions yet and is in danger of being shot as well" list:
--Everyone else.
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Can you shoot KB talismania?
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On June 18 2012 09:57 DropBear wrote:
Can you shoot KB talismania?
I'm not sure if it's worth wasting the shot. Who would you lynch if KB was out of the equation?
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It's something I can consider. The upside is the information of who has pushed him and who hasn't etc which then informs the lynch. The downside is the loss of information by shooting early and losing the information that I would get from forcing others to post cases/impressions/info. It's not clear to me exactly what the right tradeoff is. I'm also not convinced kharadbanar is anti-town. I lean third party on him.
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On June 18 2012 10:00 talismania wrote:
It's something I can consider. The upside is the information of who has pushed him and who hasn't etc which then informs the lynch. The downside is the loss of information by shooting early and losing the information that I would get from forcing others to post cases/impressions/info. It's not clear to me exactly what the right tradeoff is. I'm also not convinced kharadbanar is anti-town. I lean third party on him.
You think that third party =/= anti-town?
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On June 18 2012 09:58 xsksc wrote:I'm not sure if it's worth wasting the shot. Who would you lynch if KB was out of the equation?
Talismania has claimed dayvig. He is getting shot by the mafia tonight whether he is lying or not. If he actually DOES have the shot, he needs to use it today now that he has claimed.
Talismania if you are actually a dayvig please use your shot on KB.
Besides KB I would kill Drazerk so he stfus and stops spamming the thread.
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On June 18 2012 03:00 Acrofales wrote:BioSC: Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 04:39 BioSC wrote:On June 17 2012 04:28 Drazerk wrote:
From this point on I am now ignoring any post that has anything to do with House Chezinu
I advice everyone else does the same so we can play a normal game If the last Bastard game was any indication, this will be a bit stranger than a normal game. Speaking of this House Chezinu... You "guys" want a lot for giving not so much. Are you a mason group? Can you recruit? I'm staying cautiously positive atm. Unless you guys have cupcakes to offer, then I may change my stance =D This is a non-opinion wrapped in fancy text. Now that HiroPro has been posting a bit more, what do you think of Chezinu? What do you think of KB and Nisani's "alliance" with them? What do you think of Drazerk and my stances versus them?
My opinion? That it was a super awesome practical joke! I LOVE practical jokes! The best kinds are the ones that get people to talk about them way after the joke's over! I was a bit cautious like a few others, I think that ET had it right. I wasn't about to give up my role PM that easily! As to HiroPro and my thoughts on him, getting people talking doesn't necessarily mean he is a Townie-wownie, because those bastard scum have just as much reason to hunt down them as Town does! I want to find em both, though, cuz that's how I WIN! And I LOVE winning!
Drazerk strikes me as someone who wants to die, and take a bullet rather than be lynched. That's reading pretty strange to me, I'll be sure to keep an eye on him.
KB, though, strikes me as anti-town. Most of his posts are about that awesome practical joke, and how he wants to make sure they know he's not an enemy, making huge-gigantic-super-spectacular posts about it/him! This strikes me as something a scumy-wummy or 3rd party pooper would do, and either way, its something I want to get rid of! If I had to pick a meanie-weanie to get rid of today, it would be him!
## Vote: KaradBanar
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Xsksc you are making so much sense it makes me happy. Please don't get yourself killed.
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On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.
--Snipped--
I'm super sorry for not posting up to your standards, I was gone most of the day for Father's Day! I hope everyone was sure to find and talk to their fathers! If you want to ask me something to prove that I'm a meanie-wieny bastard scum, let me know!
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On June 18 2012 09:49 xsksc wrote:Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol. In response to Nisanis vote - Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.
xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town? As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead. I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution. Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.
Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him. Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.
Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical.
Yes indeed, contributing without contributing seems to be a common theme this game. Not my fault.
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On June 18 2012 10:02 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 10:00 talismania wrote:
It's something I can consider. The upside is the information of who has pushed him and who hasn't etc which then informs the lynch. The downside is the loss of information by shooting early and losing the information that I would get from forcing others to post cases/impressions/info. It's not clear to me exactly what the right tradeoff is. I'm also not convinced kharadbanar is anti-town. I lean third party on him. You think that third party =/= anti-town?
I don't know, true. But no one is distracting the discussion away from him, etc. Everyone has shit on him a little bit it seems. I think scum are happy to have him lynched. That's just my hunch.
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On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:--Snipped-- xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc
What do you think about xsksc's case on KB? Right now it makes a lot of sense to me, and I know when things don't make sense. Do you think he's right or wrong? Do you think that KB is acting like a bastard?
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I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment.
He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy.
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On June 18 2012 10:14 Nisani201 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2012 09:49 xsksc wrote:Point number 1 of my post should read fishy and not fish, lol. In response to Nisanis vote - On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:First of all I'd like to call out BioSC for hardcore lurking throughout all of N0. However I'd prefer not to lynch a lurker today because I think there are better targets.
xsksc is who I'd like to lynch today. Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread. In other words, all of his posts are easy to make. His most recent post, commenting on me and KB wanting to ally with the House Chezinu, is once again very diplomatic and is siding towards the general popular opinion on the thread. Putting my vote on him for now. ##Vote: xsksc Maybe it's the popular opinion because allying with a completely unknown faction is a pretty bad idea for town? As for my posts being "easy to make", I'm sorry you feel that way, but I disagree. I've voiced my opinnion and encouraged discussion when the thread was dead. I suggest you have a quick read of your own filter, and maybe that will stop you from accusing others of shit contribution. On June 17 2012 07:21 Nisani201 wrote:
Drazerk, I feel like you are trying to make it look like you are contributing and being outspoken by latching onto any bullshit you can find.
On June 18 2012 06:26 Nisani201 wrote:
I'm on my phone so i can't do much right now, but i don't believe talis's claim. Makes it look like he's contributing when really he's just "forcing" everyone else to contribute for him. On June 18 2012 09:20 Nisani201 wrote:
Read his filter, and you'll see that he is sort of unwilling to contribute but is trying to make posts in the thread.
Copy and paste attacks, that's pretty much it. Your easy-to-make argument is completely nonsensical, not to mention hypocritical. Yes indeed, contributing without contributing seems to be a common theme this game. Not my fault.
I don't think you quite got my point there..
You have contributed fuck all, and you are in no position to point that particular flaw out in everyone elses play.
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On June 18 2012 10:19 Nisani201 wrote:
I think the case is horrible. Could be a bus, not sure because I'm null on KB at the moment.
He takes out a lot of context from KB's actions, and he doesn't point out why points 1&2 are scummy.
Context? Isn't context everything? Wtf does this even mean?
Alright talismania how bout you shoot Nisani instead? We can hang KB and shoot Nisani.
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The third point is lacking "context." He accuses KB of being diplomatic with the horse chezinu but in reality that is not true.
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Sorry Nisani he wasn't being diplomatic to Chezinu?
What about this?
On June 17 2012 03:34 KharadBanar wrote:
I don't fully trust House Chezinu's intentions yet, but I would like to claim that I am not one of its enemies, and would be interested in an alliance, similar to Nisani201.
If this arrangement can be made, maybe we can talk about further deals in the future.
And this?
On June 17 2012 03:57 KharadBanar wrote:
No it's not.
What happened is that HiroPro made two other posts further explaining the concept of House Chezinu, and Nisani201 successfully allied with them without having to full-roleclaim.
Realising that this was a possibility (Nisani's offer was accepted after all) I briefly checked the advantages and disadvantages of such an alliance and came to the conclusion that an alliance without giving away sensitive data could be in my best interests.
Think of it as House Chezinu being Facebook: You don't want to give Mr. Zuckerberg all you personal information, but if you play against them you can expect to be negatively surprised. (Further parallels of joining House Chezinu, 5th Party and joining Facebook include the agreement to some huge pile of legalese you can't quite understand)
Your scumbuddy making slipups?
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