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ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 09 2012 23:31 GMT
#201
On June 10 2012 05:42 s0Lstice wrote:
Release, what do you think of my post on ha236?

Lazermonkey, same question.


Why are you not interested in everyone's opinion of the matter?
snälla pappa haga mig inte i pannan
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 09 2012 23:31 GMT
#202


I'm being transparent. Go analyze my posts if you disagree. You are starting to look more like grush.

And you're saying that throwing out an opinion is better than waiting some and collecting more information as the game goes along is a bad thing
tell me where i said that.

☺
ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 09 2012 23:37 GMT
#203
On June 10 2012 08:22 Release wrote:

I'm saying that you are leaving yourself open to either lynch or not lynch grush and use either part of the post to support your actions.



You criticize my post for not being extremely tilted to one side, whether he is "scummy" or not. Since I did not have such an opinion I posted what I posted. You would rather I posted none of my thoughts? Because I thought mafia was about sharing your opinions and trying to work towards finding out who is who.
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ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 09 2012 23:45 GMT
#204
On June 10 2012 08:27 ha236 wrote:
And you're saying that throwing out an opinion is better than waiting some and collecting more information as the game goes along is a bad thing? What's the point in posting more then once if your opinions on the first post are all that matter?


Sorry guys, I don't even understand my own post. It's supposed to say:

"And you're saying that throwing out an opinion of what your stance is on the matter at the time of post is worse than posting at all before you've made up your mind? Doing this would earn you the lurker-stamp instantly. What's the point in posting more then once if your opinions on the first post are all that matter?"

Apperantly I'm much more tired than I thought.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 09 2012 23:52 GMT
#205
ha236,

sharing your opinions is fine, even if that opinion is "i'm not sure on him yet."

You however did a play by play of Lazermonkey....kicking it off with how you felt his posts looked strange, continued to build a sort-of case?, and then agreed with his findings.

Your thoughts are a problem because they contradict themselves. I'm pretty much convinced that you are the perfect candidate for us to lynch D1.

##Vote:ha236

ATOBTTR
ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 09 2012 23:54 GMT
#206
On June 10 2012 08:52 s0Lstice wrote:
ha236,

sharing your opinions is fine, even if that opinion is "i'm not sure on him yet."

You however did a play by play of Lazermonkey....kicking it off with how you felt his posts looked strange, continued to build a sort-of case?, and then agreed with his findings.

Your thoughts are a problem because they contradict themselves. I'm pretty much convinced that you are the perfect candidate for us to lynch D1.

##Vote:ha236



They do not contradict one another seeing as they are focusing on different parts of his post. Maybe opening up with that his statements look strange wasn't the smoothest move, I can see that, but I think you understand what I meant and I stand by my opinion.
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ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 09 2012 23:57 GMT
#207
EBWOP:

Furthermore what you described makes perfect sense. I kicked it off by saying his posts are strange, then make a sort-of case and finish with agreeing (in your eyes). Translate it to numbers and say strange:1 sort-of:1,5 and agreeing: 2, the average of that is 1,5 (sort-of), which is what my read says and also what my stance is.
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s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 10 2012 00:03 GMT
#208
Now as far as grush is concerned...

The only thing in his filter that raises my eyebrows is the 'nothing to talk about' post. The rest is neutral mostly, because it's OMGUS tit for tat defense against Release.

I want to see what he does when he doesn't spend every free minute defending himself.

ATOBTTR
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 00:07 GMT
#209
On June 10 2012 08:52 s0Lstice wrote:
ha236,

sharing your opinions is fine, even if that opinion is "i'm not sure on him yet."

You however did a play by play of Lazermonkey....kicking it off with how you felt his posts looked strange, continued to build a sort-of case?, and then agreed with his findings.

Your thoughts are a problem because they contradict themselves. I'm pretty much convinced that you are the perfect candidate for us to lynch D1.

##Vote:ha236


His posts were strange, but the idea behind them was agreeable. Grush was being very wishy-washy.

Do you really think ha236 is a better case than grush? Ha looks like a solid day 2 candidate. By all means pressure him, but keep in mind that this is a extended majority vote.
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 00:07 GMT
#210
Monkey's posts, rather
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 00:10 GMT
#211
On June 10 2012 09:03 s0Lstice wrote:
Now as far as grush is concerned...

The only thing in his filter that raises my eyebrows is the 'nothing to talk about' post. The rest is neutral mostly, because it's OMGUS tit for tat defense against Release.

I want to see what he does when he doesn't spend every free minute defending himself.


he's not defending himself. He writes very generic townie shit and calls it a defense. He self claims that his sarcastic response is his defense (the claim might be sarcastic, who knows what he believes is actually the truth). He provides zero analysis, discourages discussion, claims that there is little to talk about after we have done a lot of talking.

He has plenty of time to defend himself.

According to you, he is OMGUSing, which does not even require reading the thread, so there is a contradiction with the bold phrase.
☺
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 10 2012 00:12 GMT
#212
I think ha236 is a better candidate. That one post flashed red big time. Lots of words that started on one end of the opinion spectrum and ended on the other. Trying to appear useful, but really the conclusion is errr I dunno.

I will be pushing his lynch, but I will not do so at the expense of the majority. If I get traction, good. If not, then I will wait on ha236 to insure the day 1 lynch.
ATOBTTR
ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 10 2012 00:17 GMT
#213
On June 10 2012 05:42 s0Lstice wrote:
Release, what do you think of my post on ha236?

Lazermonkey, same question.



Do you really think ha236 is a better case than grush? Ha looks like a solid day 2 candidate. By all means pressure him, but keep in mind that this is a extended majority vote.


What's the deal with some of the players only caring about the opinions of a few others? It's kind of cute though.

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ha236
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden36 Posts
June 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#214
EBWOP:

Especially Release and solstice, second time they confront one another in this manner.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 00:23 GMT
#215
On June 10 2012 09:17 ha236 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 05:42 s0Lstice wrote:
Release, what do you think of my post on ha236?

Lazermonkey, same question.


Show nested quote +

Do you really think ha236 is a better case than grush? Ha looks like a solid day 2 candidate. By all means pressure him, but keep in mind that this is a extended majority vote.


What's the deal with some of the players only caring about the opinions of a few others? It's kind of cute though.


rofl.

It was his post and thought process i was questioning.
Most people haven't even voted yet.

Go do some real analysis.
☺
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
June 10 2012 00:27 GMT
#216
On June 10 2012 09:10 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 09:03 s0Lstice wrote:
Now as far as grush is concerned...

The only thing in his filter that raises my eyebrows is the 'nothing to talk about' post. The rest is neutral mostly, because it's OMGUS tit for tat defense against Release.

I want to see what he does when he doesn't spend every free minute defending himself.


he's not defending himself. He writes very generic townie shit and calls it a defense. He self claims that his sarcastic response is his defense (the claim might be sarcastic, who knows what he believes is actually the truth). He provides zero analysis, discourages discussion, claims that there is little to talk about after we have done a lot of talking.

He has plenty of time to defend himself.


According to you, he is OMGUSing, which does not even require reading the thread, so there is a contradiction with the bold phrase.


Really? Because it seems like every time I refresh the thread you have a new post going after him. You are pressuring him pretty hard. He feels the need to respond to every single post, with OMGUS or something else mostly useless. I grant this is bad play, as he should have disengaged from you a lot sooner than he did.

The point is the read on him is not strong, as his filter is full of garbage. This can be a scum-tell, yes, but there is also town motivation for his behavior. As town, he is incredulous that you are pursuing him so hard...this explains the sarcasm, the snippy remarks etc. He erroneously feels his best move is to match you hit for hit, and this will help confirm him as a town read.

He's been told to post something that contributes, and what he does will be good information. It will certainly be better than what we have on him now. If it's not, then hell yea let's lynch him.


ATOBTTR
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 02:15 GMT
#217
On June 10 2012 09:27 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 09:10 Release wrote:
On June 10 2012 09:03 s0Lstice wrote:
Now as far as grush is concerned...

The only thing in his filter that raises my eyebrows is the 'nothing to talk about' post. The rest is neutral mostly, because it's OMGUS tit for tat defense against Release.

I want to see what he does when he doesn't spend every free minute defending himself.


he's not defending himself. He writes very generic townie shit and calls it a defense. He self claims that his sarcastic response is his defense (the claim might be sarcastic, who knows what he believes is actually the truth). He provides zero analysis, discourages discussion, claims that there is little to talk about after we have done a lot of talking.

He has plenty of time to defend himself.


According to you, he is OMGUSing, which does not even require reading the thread, so there is a contradiction with the bold phrase.


Really? Because it seems like every time I refresh the thread you have a new post going after him. You are pressuring him pretty hard. He feels the need to respond to every single post, with OMGUS or something else mostly useless. I grant this is bad play, as he should have disengaged from you a lot sooner than he did.

The point is the read on him is not strong, as his filter is full of garbage. This can be a scum-tell, yes, but there is also town motivation for his behavior. As town, he is incredulous that you are pursuing him so hard...this explains the sarcasm, the snippy remarks etc. He erroneously feels his best move is to match you hit for hit, and this will help confirm him as a town read.

He's been told to post something that contributes, and what he does will be good information. It will certainly be better than what we have on him now. If it's not, then hell yea let's lynch him.



I wouldn't be pressuring him so hard if his responses showed an udnerstanding of the thread and the game, but in particular, looked like they took him more than half a minute from scratch to finish.
☺
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 02:19 GMT
#218
To be honest, the motivation behind his posts seem to be, more or less, in an effort to spite my attacks on him. You could say that alignment doesn't matter if he just dislikes what i post, but i see a scum motivation; he doesn't want to answer my questions.
☺
KtheZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States813 Posts
June 10 2012 05:19 GMT
#219
Considering the current state of affairs between grush and ha:

I think its good that we've been able to come up with enough analysis to be able to FoS two individuals on the first day.

Grush:
His first post, which implied encouragement of less discussion day 1, definitely struck me as something a scum might do. In the ensuing discussion he started OMGUS-ing a little, and met release's scathing cross-examination with responses of his own. I applaud release for FoSing Grush, not because grush may be scum, but because he managed to squeeze out precious information on this first day. This new debate over ha was only possible because release decided to talk. Anyway, after looking over grush's responses and his final "okay im done with this shit" post, he does seem slightly scummy.
Considering the lack of useful information he has provided within the span of 30-40ish posts, and my feel over reading his posts, I would place the ballpark of him being scum being around 44-55% (Which is much higher than the average person, 11%)

ha: To be released
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 10 2012 07:11 GMT
#220
Where the fuck are you vivax?

Time to start getting your votes in.
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