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One of s0lstice's posts really caught my attention. I just want to point it out now in case I'm dead in 10 minutes. In the minutes leading up to the deadline yesterday, hegeo made his final post: a giant, well-formed accusation of Release and Mordanis. At the time, me, milton, mordanis, shiaopi, and solstice were online. Everybody but solstice seemed a bit taken aback at the situation. Hegeo's post made him look town, but none of us were really sure what to think. Here are our reactions:
me: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 08:27 sciberbia wrote:
This is either just bizarre townie play or a really really desperate mafia move.
Miltonkram: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 08:33 Miltonkram wrote:
Good night hegeo, if you flip town at the very least we can take your last post and it's accusations seriously.
Mordanis: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 08:33 Mordanis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2012 08:29 s0Lstice wrote:On May 24 2012 08:27 sciberbia wrote:
Dude worst timing ever. You realize the deadline is in 5 minutes? This is either just bizarre townie play or a really really desperate mafia move. Seeing as I can't even read your post in the next 4 minutes, there is no way we are lynching Release or Mordanis. He says right in the header that he's been working on this the entire time, and presumably wanted to get it in earlier. I wish he would have dropped a quick note to that effect, but it seems like he was pretty engrossed. But don't you have to copy the code from the thread for this type of thing? This is such a weird situation.........
ShiaoPi: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 08:37 ShiaoPi wrote:
Anyway, really waiting for the flip now... On May 24 2012 08:46 ShiaoPi wrote:
townflip, even blue.....
Mordanis and Release you should better prepare a damn good defense now
s0sltice: + Show Spoiler +On May 24 2012 08:41 s0Lstice wrote:
lol. if you think he is going to flip anything but green now you are nuts. posturing by you. On May 24 2012 08:55 s0Lstice wrote:
I guess that explains his mostly soft pressure. He sounded like a politician up until that last post, not sticking his neck out. My #1 newb fear was confusing blue for red.
I find it suspicious that s0sltice was so sure hegeo is town, and had a quick explanation for hegeo's behavior. Only the mafia actually knew for a fact the he was town.
I looked through solstice's filter and didn't find anything else I had an issue with, so I'm not prepared to say he is definitely scum, but it really strikes me as something suspcious. Again, just wanted to put it out there in case I die.
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Thanks all for playing. gg
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gg Miltonkram and Mordanis
@Mordanis
I guess there sometimes has to be no DT even with framer just so the mafia can't always assume.
Metagame reasons notwithstanding, I think the setup slightly favored mafia. Isn't 1 DT/1 medic/5 VT/2 goons balanced? So we were basically short a DT. We had a 29.8% chance of town winning assuming random lynches, no roleclaims, and no medic saves.
Our choice of lynches wasn't good enough to make up the difference. While I agree that the inactivity of mufaa/skware ended up being a deciding factor, I also think inactivity by the townies before the deadlines hurt us a lot:
I regret not pushing a milton lynch the first day. I think I could have managed it because I had a lot of influence at the time. My excuse is that mufaa wasn't voting, release/golden weren't online, and hegeo didn't make his presence known. So I would have had to convince both solstice and mordanis(!) to vote milton in order to get the lynch.
Also, I think milton/mordanis might have been lynched over golden D2 if golden had been a bit more active in his defense. I assume he was busy with work/sleep.
Anyway, gg all. I enjoyed this game a lot
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Thanks milton - beginner's luck I suppose. I wasn't completely convinced myself or I would have pushed harder to lynch you. In truth, a lot of my motivation for the original post was just to gain some townie cred, which I really needed at that point. Looking forward to playing with you in XV :D
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@marvellosity
Is it really best not to lynch people who roleclaim in this setup?
If hegeo had claimed medic and we decided not to lynch him for that reason, wouldn't milton have just claimed jailkeeper or DT or something, and been able to prevent his lynch as well?
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@s0sltice
I read you as town most of the game. I just didn't find your tunneling of shiaopi very helpful because I didn't think your case was that strong, and it interfered with our discussion of milton/hegeo. The only thing I found suspicious was your reaction to hegeo's post. I was a lot more paranoid than you were. I thought "maybe hegeo deliberately waited until the last minute, and then made a huge post where he implies he will flip town, in an attempt to get us to panic and not lynch him." Obviously I was wrong. My bad on that one. If we had all swapped to milton in those last 5 minutes, it would have likely won us the game.
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