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"IF I'm town I'll lynch mafia"
yeah sure. You got a really bad scumplayer in your team who wants to quit the game early?! come on. I'll never buy this shit. We both know, that you dont own the scumteamlist. How can you be so certain about that. Bullshit. Now you're wifoming around - trying to produce some Text to fog the whole case.
Provide some analysis. I dont fall for empty words.
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On May 27 2012 23:26 supersoft wrote: "IF I'm town I'll lynch mafia"
yeah sure. You got a really bad scumplayer in your team who wants to quit the game early?! come on. I'll never buy this shit. We both know, that you dont own the scumteamlist. How can you be so certain about that. Bullshit. Now you're wifoming around - trying to produce some Text to fog the whole case.
Provide some analysis. I dont fall for empty words. idk, my last 2 games I was preeeetty hard owning as town. In Storm I gave a list with 5 names of possible mafias which ended up including 3 mafias although VE ended up being MVP that game because he somehow managed to get an even better list making a list of 4 or 5 people that included all 4 mafias (if I remember correclty). In C9++ #2 I said #1 mafia is either A or B, #2 mafia is C, #3 mafia is either D or E while saying everyone else is surely town and it ended up being A, C and E.
So yeah I am quite confident that I'll lynch into a mafia d1 right now.
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anyways, have to go now, until later tonight
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On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote: So yeah I am quite confident that I'll lynch into a mafia d1 right now. A bold statement when the day hasn´t really begun, more than half the players are yet to weigh in.
I´m agreeing with supersoft on this, he says Toades is scum and I´m inclined to agree with him. Toades explains more about his scumplay than townplay when he is making a case on his townieness, and he´s sounding more nervous than angry in his interaction with supersoft. I´ve seen many town-town arguments, and I don´t think this is one.
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On May 27 2012 23:33 Toadesstern wrote: anyways, have to go now, until later tonight Oh well.
Toades did warn that he´d be leaving so I´ll wait for his reply.
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I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win.
Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course.
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On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 23:26 supersoft wrote: "IF I'm town I'll lynch mafia"
yeah sure. You got a really bad scumplayer in your team who wants to quit the game early?! come on. I'll never buy this shit. We both know, that you dont own the scumteamlist. How can you be so certain about that. Bullshit. Now you're wifoming around - trying to produce some Text to fog the whole case.
Provide some analysis. I dont fall for empty words. idk, my last 2 games I was preeeetty hard owning as town. In Storm I gave a list with 5 names of possible mafias which ended up including 3 mafias although VE ended up being MVP that game because he somehow managed to get an even better list making a list of 4 or 5 people that included all 4 mafias (if I remember correclty). In C9++ #2 I said #1 mafia is either A or B, #2 mafia is C, #3 mafia is either D or E while saying everyone else is surely town and it ended up being A, C and E. So yeah I am quite confident that I'll lynch into a mafia d1 right now.
what the fuck are you talking about?!
I respect you as a good townplayer. And all you posted so far is not fulfilling my expectations. I am pretty confident, that you either have a really bad day or you're scum.
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##Vote: EchelonTees
I don't even care if we can vote for ourselves. *brofist*
Blzing, join me in a concentrated effort in removing emotion from our game. I think the town as a whole wiill benefit regardless of our alignment.
I'm not willing to call Toad scum for bravado just yet. I mean, the arguments are intriguing and I eagerly await his response, but I think Toad is scum a LOT when he's town.
One thing I know for sure though is that Toad WILL scumslip if he's scum...it's just a matter of time. Experience has taught me well that the guy is GOING to tell us he's scum if he is, in fact, scum. And the best part? He'll do it even though I'm WARNING TOWN RIGHT NOW! Why? Because he thinks I'm full of shit when I tell him about it when we're scum together.
So yeah, Toad is on the watchlist but I'm not willing to call him scum just yet. Being sure about lynching scum isn't a scumtell, I myself said in my first (second?) post that I'm confident I'll hit scum D1. *shrug*
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On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote: I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win.
Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course. The second half of your post is pure WIFOM. If the Mayor and Vice-Mayor survive a few nights then we´ll of course take a closer look at them, but that´s true for any player surviving player who is very active and generally agreed on to be town. What we should not do is tell scum that we´ll kill our best and brightest townies ourselves if they only leave them alone.
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Last game, I admit I did terrible and this game I'm going to take it very serious and try to play awesome townie.
I am leaning towards an Echelon vote, he is coming off very townie to me. His post about positive attitude was great, as the game was already going into an insult shitfest. Also, he isn't going to policy lynch but discuss his analysis of who to lynch and isn't going to lone-wolf it. Plus, he would seem to put the 2 votes to use.
For Pardoner, Mr. Wiggles would be a good choice as he has a townie vibe coming off of him, aswell as he seems smart enough not to misuse it. However, it is going to be difficult to coordinate a pardoner vote.
But ultimately, you could lie your ass off to get elected.
##Vote: EchelonTee
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kitaman27
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On May 27 2012 11:20 GreYMisT wrote: I would like to give a big thanks to my friend and fellow Grubby mod "astroorion" for helping me send the PMs
I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU!
I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself.
Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_-
Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet.
##Vote Hyaach. You got this.
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On May 28 2012 00:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 11:20 GreYMisT wrote: I would like to give a big thanks to my friend and fellow Grubby mod "astroorion" for helping me send the PMs I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this.
"Hey guys no scum candidate is up for elections so I'm gonna put one up now."
<3
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On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote: idk, my last 2 games I was preeeetty hard owning as town.
Cool.
On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote: idk, my last 2 games I was preeeetty hard owning as town. In Storm I gave a list with 5 names of possible mafias which ended up including 3 mafias although VE ended up being MVP that game because he somehow managed to get an even better list making a list of 4 or 5 people that included all 4 mafias (if I remember correclty). In C9++ #2 I said #1 mafia is either A or B, #2 mafia is C, #3 mafia is either D or E while saying everyone else is surely town and it ended up being A, C and E.
Okay, getting 3 out of 5 mafia right isn't an achievement. In LIV, I predicted a lot of the mafia aswell even though I was the "scum mvp"
On May 27 2012 23:30 Toadesstern wrote: So yeah I am quite confident that I'll lynch into a mafia d1 right now.
Really, right now with 24 townies and NO solid cases you are confident to hit a scum?
Go back to Irk.
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Yeah man, owning scum includes leading town to lynch said threats...If just KNOWING who are scum is enough to "own scumteams" then I'd be one of the most feared individuals on this site. As it stands I'm kinda a joke...so its whatever.
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On May 28 2012 00:52 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 11:20 GreYMisT wrote: I would like to give a big thanks to my friend and fellow Grubby mod "astroorion" for helping me send the PMs I think GreYMisT just wanted to brag about being a Grubby mod. CAUGHT YOU! I agree with Wiggle's statement about the pardoner. The only person who we should elect as a the runner-up should be a player who states in the thread that he is unwilling to use the role on anyone but himself. Blazing, you may not be a troll, but you spam like no other. 37 posts in the first few hours of the game? -_- Mayor and pardoner elections are less important without bodyguards. The focus today should be determining the mayor's day one lynch. I may dislike policy lynches, but grush has failed to address any concerns. With a lyncher possibly in play, its extremeley likely that he has decided to run for mayor. I suggest we elect someone who has not declared their candidacy yet. ##Vote Hyaach. You got this.
Okay first part is empty words trying to make post longer trying to look like you contribute.
I maydislike policy lynching, but I'm going to do it anyways because I like being contradicting scum and want easy day1 town lynch.
It seems like Wiggles is the teamleader, yeah you agree that gf should save himself. Bring up Blazing so he can start posting again causing chaos, bringing up me for town day1 lynch, and then voting for hyaach for more randomness.
^^ Is super conspiracy theory, but wtf man bringing up all this random shit, you seem scummy.
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On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote: I'm leaning more towards Mr. Wiggles at this point. He's the only one who has given complete sound reasoning on why he should be vice-leader. He promises to basically never use it. So if he does he's either just a bad townie, or scum. And he knows we'd lynch him. There is only one reason I can find not to trust him which is, Assuming he is scum he wants the position so a townie can't get it and so that closer to the endgame it can become the difference between a scum win and a townie win.
I can find a few reasons not to trust Wiggles:
1. He's running specifically for VP, which is half-assed. Scum tend to be half-assed. 2. He's made a huge fluffy I'm-a-sensible-guy mayor post and ignored everything in the thread apart from a somewhat redundant question towards BlazingHand.
On May 27 2012 23:52 Manason wrote: Also I don't know if this has already been brought up, but assuming the mayor is a good townie I think it's reasonable to believe that they'll be killed the first night, after all why would scum want a good townie in a position with double votes, it can only be bad for them. So we should start looking a little bit more closely at our mayor candidates, because if any of them have brains they've already figured it out they'll be dead the first night unless they're scum of course. Hmm. Are you actually new rather than a smurf?
The possibility of jailers makes it extremely risky for scum to hit a good townie with the mayor role, even with doublestacked KP.
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I think we're being a bit too quick to rush and attack Toad for something reasonably small. Although his entire election campaign was him showing off, the logic was at least there is some way or another. I certainly don't plan on voting for him based off of it though.
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On May 28 2012 01:44 Zealos wrote: I think we're being a bit too quick to rush and attack Toad for something reasonably small. Although his entire election campaign was him showing off, the logic was at least there is some way or another. I certainly don't plan on voting for him based off of it though. Why are you defending Toades?
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Sour that it took so long to catch up to the thread and so much of it was just a nonhelpful argument. Please be more concise and avoid redundant arguments in the future. EchTee: playing mostly calm, logical, and fair. Making sense. Wants to make sure everyone posts. Probably going to vote for him as mayor. Just because pardon is more helpful to scum than town, we shouldn't lynch the Vice to rid the power since the Vice is likely a strong player who was making enough sense to be the runner-up. There is always the scenario where the Vice is able to use the pardon on someone they have confirmed as town through night powers. @Blazinghand regarding s&b's motivations to run: His reasoning/motivation sounded reasonable and truthful to me. As a newb, it doesn't seem scummy to say you don't feel comfortable as a newer player with the responsibility of Mayor Lynch but feel comfortable keeping pardon power out of scums hands. Unless s&b does something else suspicious, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now. @Hyaach: you want to abstain from voting? If you are town, you'd want to always contribute and vote to dilute the influence of mafia. Forumite: so far seems sensible, pro-town, active but reasonably restrained; as I have been catching up on the thread, has echoed what I was thinking. @Toad: If you are that good playing scum, then why would I feel safe voting for you on the anecdotal evidence of your intuition. So you are saying if you are mayor, you will kill scum. If you don't, do you want us to assume you are scum and lynch you next? Would if you bet you will be safe and confirmed all game by sacrificing another scum now? supersoft: seems pro-town at moment from his starting to pressure and scumhunt @Manason: have to agree with Forumite's response to you: we should not assume that they must be scum for surviving in office or tell the scum we will kill the Mayor for them. @kitaman: elect someone who isn't running? This doesn't make sense to me, would if they are bad at reading people or turn out to be a lurker? regarding grush: look he seems to be making more of an effort than what was linked to his past.
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Who is even attacking Toad?
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